Women aren't stupid or irrational for wanting Chad. It's in women's best interests to pick a stupid Chad over successful intelligent incel

[incel4life]

Incels might be better at survival, but in a prosperous society there is no need for survival since all you need to do is be smart enough to work a fast food job. What's important to her genetic line's survival is whether or not her sons will reproduce, and if she marries an incel, her sons will probably not reproduce. Incels might be able to provide the kids a better upbringing, but in the end, Chad's kids will have better lives since they have no problem finding a woman that wants to be with them. It's utterly irrational for women in our culture to be atracted to incels. In fact, if a certain young woman were attracted to intelligent successful incels, it would make sense for genetic line's survival to change her attraction so that she is attracted to stupid Chads.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Nature has cucked us.

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Fuck life

 

[armis]

Cuck mindset.

 

[Inbuddhist]

But you are doing a circular argument here, didn't you notice ? If women desired incels then by definition incels children will also be able to reproduce.

The truth is that many people here get natural selection horribly wrong. First, some instincts were only significant in old natural environments, they lost any value now but they are still instincts (example we still fear public speaking like if being rejected by a public may lead to lack of food and physical death), also natural selection favors spreading the genes, not necessarily the happiness or the well-being of the individual.

 

[Latejulycel]

But you are doing a circular argument here, didn't you notice ? If women desired incels then by definition incels children will also be able to reproduce.

The truth is that many people here get natural selection horribky wrong. Forst, some instincts were only significant in and old natural environment, they lost any value now but they are still instincts (example we still fear public speaking like if being rejected by a public may lead to lack of food and physical death), also natural selection favors spreading the genes, not necessarily the happiness or the well-being of the individual.

I was basically gonna say what he said but in a lower iq. Good job, Inbuddhist!

 

[Anger]

''muh nature'' fuck that and fuck you too cuck.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

We just had a 2 page thread against appeal to nature fallacies yesterday.

What the fuck is it with all the cuck threads lately?

 

[Deleted member 12355]

There isn't a natural dichotomy between so called "smart" incels and "stupid" chads. That's a blue pill lie society has told the incel in order to make him better cope so that he can be more content with his situation and not ER. In reality, the chad is, and forever has been, the truly superior male from the point of view of natural selection, which is why foids find that sort of guy attractive in the first place.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

There isn't a natural dichotomy between so called "smart" incels and "stupid" chads. That's a blue pill lie society has told the incel in order to make him better cope so that he can be more content with his situation and not ER. In reality, the chad is, and forever has been, the truly superior male from the point of view of natural selection, which is why foids find that sort of guy attractive in the first place.

We just had a 2 page thread against appeal to nature fallacies yesterday.

What the fuck is it with all the cuck posts lately?

 

[mikepence]

''muh nature'' fuck that and fuck you too cuck.

It's natural for me to want to kill femoids.

 

[SemiticIncel]

JFL at using the nature argument

When women used to be hypergamous in nature men simply raped the shit out of them.

 

[incel4life]

But you are doing a circular argument here, didn't you notice ? If women desired incels then by definition incels children will also be able to reproduce.

The truth is that many people here get natural selection horribly wrong. First, some instincts were only significant in old natural environments, they lost any value now but they are still instincts (example we still fear public speaking like if being rejected by a public may lead to lack of food and physical death), also natural selection favors spreading the genes, not necessarily the happiness or the well-being of the individual.

It's not circular reasoning. It's called a stable equilibrium. There was some initial condition in the past that made women attracted to Chads, and now it's basically impossible to change since there is a feedback mechanism where women are attracted to what other women are attracted to.

''muh nature'' fuck that and fuck you too cuck.

I'm not a cuck, in fact the opposite. I just understand why women's attraction works the way it does. Wanting Chad is completely rational from the woman's perspective, but it is bad for society that women are like this. When I said "women are rational" I didn't mean that it's good for society that they are like this. It's rational for women to want Chad in the same way that stealing is rational for the thief. I think women should not be allowed to choose their own mates.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

dismissing the acknowledgement that chads are superior to incels as cuckoldry is cope

 

[incel4life]

There isn't a natural dichotomy between so called "smart" incels and "stupid" chads. That's a blue pill lie society has told the incel in order to make him better cope so that he can be more content with his situation and not ER. In reality, the chad is, and forever has been, the truly superior male from the point of view of natural selection, which is why foids find that sort of guy attractive in the first place.

Incels are men who were bred for survival. Chads are men who were bred for reproduction. Women prefer incels in environments where survival traits are very important. Women prefer Chads in environments where survival traits are not important.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

Incels are men who were bred for survival. Chads are men who were bred for reproduction. Women prefer incels in environments where survival traits are very important. Women prefer Chads in environments where survival traits are not important.

that's interesting seeing as intelligence is positively correlated with looks, meaning that the better looking you are, the more likelihood you have of being intelligent. Now granted, intelligence is just one trait. But I don't think that there's even a discussion to be had about biological strength etc. when comparing the chad to the incel

 

[WarriorSkull]

Incels are men who were bred for survival. Chads are men who were bred for reproduction. Women prefer incels in environments where survival traits are very important. Women prefer Chads in environments where survival traits are not important.

This makes sense to me. I have no problem understanding Chad is superior to me genetically, but I'm glad we're acknowledging that incels have been made worthless by modern (no survival pressure) society, so the only ones left worth anything are Chads who not only have reproductive value, but also social value. Modern society is one where social value is everything. That is why you can have all your survival needs met, but be more depressed than a starving niglet in Ethiopia, because your worth isn't determined by your ability to feed yourself, but by your status in the social dominance hierarchy.

 

[incel4life]

that's interesting seeing as intelligence is positively correlated with looks, meaning that the better looking you are, the more likelihood you have of being intelligent. Now granted, intelligence is just one trait. But I don't think that there's even a discussion to be had about biological strength etc. when comparing the chad to the incel

Math students from Harvard - these are probably some of the smartest young people in the world:

Tell me they are attractive.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

Math students from Harvard - these are probably some of the smartest young people in the world:

Tell me they are attractive.

well, no. People at the extreme ends are obviously likely to either be incel or volcel (Newton). This in no way negates the statistical pattern that better looking people tend to be more intelligent

 

[Deleted member 10124]

But you are doing a circular argument here, didn't you notice ? If women desired incels then by definition incels children will also be able to reproduce.

The truth is that many people here get natural selection horribly wrong. First, some instincts were only significant in old natural environments, they lost any value now but they are still instincts (example we still fear public speaking like if being rejected by a public may lead to lack of food and physical death), also natural selection favors spreading the genes, not necessarily the happiness or the well-being of the individual.

 

[Inbuddhist]

that's interesting seeing as intelligence is positively correlated with looks, meaning that the better looking you are, the more likelihood you have of being intelligent. Now granted, intelligence is just one trait. But I don't think that there's even a discussion to be had about biological strength etc. when comparing the chad to the incel

Source ? I know it was proven looks were linked to a perception of being smarter, but not to actually being smarter.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

Source ? I know it was proven looks were linked to a perception of being smarter, but not to actually being smarter.

https://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/i2011.pdf

Abstract: This brief research note aims to estimate the magnitude of the association between general intelligence and physical attractiveness with large nationally representative samples from two nations. In the United Kingdom, attractive children are more intelligent by 12.4 IQ points (r= .381), whereas in the United States, the correlation between intelligence and physical attractiveness is somewhat smaller (r= .126). The association between intelligence and physical attractiveness is stronger among men than among women in both nations. The association remains significant net of a large number of control variables for social class, body size, and health.

You can read the entire thing for yourself if you find the time to.

 

[EthnicelNL]

High iq OP

 

[DeepSea]

that's interesting seeing as intelligence is positively correlated with looks, meaning that the better looking you are, the more likelihood you have of being intelligent.

A well-known evolutionary psychologist named Satoshi Kanazawa has claimed that physical beauty and intelligence are correlated. However, other researchers tried and failed to replicate his findings and have concluded that there is no relationship between intelligence and attractiveness.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

dismissing the acknowledgement that chads are superior to incels as cuckoldry is cope

It would be nice to not have to explain to Chad butt-boys why their lover isn't an objectively good man five times a day, every day. Read and address every argument made in this thread and I'll consider entertaining the thought that it might be possible to believe you.

https://incels.is/threads/if-you-th...-a-shotgun-barrel-and-pull-the-trigger.66332/

It's not circular reasoning. It's called a stable equilibrium. There was some initial condition in the past that made women attracted to Chads, and now it's basically impossible to change since there is a feedback mechanism where women are attracted to what other women are attracted to.



I'm not a cuck, in fact the opposite. I just understand why women's attraction works the way it does. Wanting Chad is completely rational from the woman's perspective, but it is bad for society that women are like this. When I said "women are rational" I didn't mean that it's good for society that they are like this. It's rational for women to want Chad in the same way that stealing is rational for the thief. I think women should not be allowed to choose their own mates.

Ah, I can see your position a little better now that you've had a chance to expand. Apologies for assuming, but we get so many Chad worshippers and cunt apologists on incels.fuckin.me that I've started to get sick of seriously entertaining anything that sounds like "we can't blame...".

I would argue strongly against the idea that their attraction is "rational", implying some kind of systematic, abstract planning to their desire. Female nature, as all nature, is effectively the opposite; it is an imperious, primeval drive with no clear direction. As you've said, uncontrolled female-led selection will in all likelihood be objectively bad for the species. So what makes sense about their behavior? The fact that they act in their own interests and pursue their own imperatives? Everyone would do this if they could. The fact that foids are able to and that it has taken hold in so many minds that this is the way things have to be is on its own decisive proof of their unique advantage in human society.

 

[Robtical]

Incels are men who were bred for survival. Chads are men who were bred for reproduction. Women prefer incels in environments where survival traits are very important. Women prefer Chads in environments where survival traits are not important.

That's why we need to cut welfare and encourage slut shaming.