Discussion Woman discusses artifical wombs: Feminists' liberation or their end?

[TheDarkEnigma]

View: https://youtu.be/mLYMAkgvZsI


So Cleo Abram, who is a journalist for Vox Media, made a video where she has surgery to get her ovarian cysts removed which might impact her chance to bear children. She discusses the idea of artificial wombs and how she would like to have that option if she has her eggs saved and she loses her ability to become pregnant.

Many feminists argue that artificial wombs is a technology that can be a liberation for women. That it will relieve their burden of childbirth and will elevate the role of women away from just being child incubators for men, thus bringing true equality amongst the sexes.

Other feminists argue that artificial wombs will make the biological role that women have as irrelevant and women will be deemed obsolete. It will also take away the power women have over men and the privileges that come with being the child-bearer, as she will no longer be in control of sexual selection of the species and men no longer have to chase after women for procreation. Since women will no longer be needed, will it be the end of women and they will end up being killed off?

The discussion of artifical wombs is also important for us incels. Will artifical wombs be a blessing for all men since we will no longer need women and we will be truly free from the female? Or do you think that there will be an elite group of men who will deny access to the rest of men and only they get to reproduce?

But this video is important as it gives a woman's perspective on this technology. Which begs the question if feminist will see this as a blessing for them because they are free from their biological roles, or will they see it as a threat as it will make them obsolete and take away the power they have over men?

 

[FinnCel]

Imagine the amount of single mothers supported by working men (through taxes)

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Imagine the amount of single mothers supported by working men (through taxes)

But will all women be able to use the artificial wombs or just the elite?

If artificial wombs are created to replace foids rather than to help them, why would it benefit foids instead of making them irrelevant? Of course foids still need the support and resources of men, having foids around that don't produce and contribute to society will just have to be killed off.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

And how does this affect incelism?

Because we will no longer depend on foids on whether we can pass on our genes or not. It will eliminate our need or reason for chasing after women, if reproduction is the end goal, because we will no longer have to go through women to get that chance.

If we had access to an artificial womb, it can't reject us or say no to us.

 

[Remaincel]

Because we will no longer depend on foids on whether we can pass on our genes or not. It will eliminate our need or reason for chasing after women, if reproduction is the end goal, because we will no longer have to go through women to get that chance.

If we had access to an artificial womb, it can't reject us or say no to us.

The end goal It's not reproduction it's just sex In the end it doesn't change anything, it's just an artificial surrogate

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

It's not reproduction it's just sex

Sex bots will be the answer to that.

 

[Mecoja]

Other feminists argue that artificial wombs will make the biological role that women have as irrelevant and women will be deemed obsolete. It will also take away the power women have over men and the privileges that come with being the child-bearer, as she will no longer be in control of sexual selection of the species and men no longer have to chase after women for procreation.

How feminist show their true hypocrite face, didnt they fight to release from shackles of their biology and gender roles, now they can free themselves of their sex roles.

How would that work? Would people still need female eggs or whatever its called? How would one acquire them? Personally i would like to have kids (at least i used to) and if i had a kid i would try hard to build a good life for him and be good parent and raise a mentally healthy child.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

How feminist show their true hypocrite face, didnt they fight to release from shackles of their biology and gender roles, now they can free themselves of their sex roles.

Feminism isn't about equality. It's about giving more power to foids over men supporting the gynocentrism to get what they want.

If they no longer had the roles as the child bearer, then one can reason that men no longer pursue foids to have kids. Men no longer have to put in the time, effort and money on foids as well as having to go against female selection and being rejected and thus denied the chance to pass on your genes.

Look at how much power foids have due to their biology. They only let Chads to have kids, they will cuck you if they deem you a genetic dead-end but will still put up with the lie because she still wants your betabuxx, foids always keep custody of the kids and deny the father access to his kids, and they use children in order to get welfare and child support.

With artifical wombs replacing the biological role of women, men can just have kids when they want to without denial, they can keep their child and a man can raise his on his own without having to give additional resources to a hole.

How would that work? Would people still need female eggs or whatever its called? How would one acquire them? Personally i would like to have kids (at least i used to) and if i had a kid i would try hard to build a good life for him and be good parent and raise a mentally healthy child.

We can still engineer and cultivate female egg cells, maybe via stem cells.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Imagine the amount of single mothers supported by working men (through taxes)

Adding to this, I mean even today foids can still just go to a sperm bank and have kids by themselves if they don't want to go through the trouble of finding a man.

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

Liberation from men?That's kinda...sexist.They still have to exist next to us because those bridges won't make themselves,those trucks won't move by itself.Also they can just pass the legislation who would prevent subhuman men from using artificial wombs.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Liberation from men?That's kinda...sexist.They still have to exist next to us because those bridges won't make themselves,those trucks won't move by itself.

True. Foids won't be needed anymore and will just be a waste of resources to keep alive. They'll just go extinct.

Also they can just pass the legislation who would prevent subhuman men from using artificial wombs.

Yeah, that's a concern. That only elite men can have access to artificial wombs and that if you don't meet the genetic requirements you are excluded. So at the end of the day it might be no different than the requirements we currently have for sperm banks, or if foids still exists but are only kept as harems for elite men like in The Handmaid's Tale.

 

[Mecoja]

Feminism isn't about equality. It's about giving more power to foids over men supporting the gynocentrism to get what they want.

If they no longer had the roles as the child bearer, then one can reason that men no longer pursue foids to have kids. Men no longer have to put in the time, effort and money on foids as well as having to go against female selection and being rejected and thus denied the chance to pass on your genes.

Look at how much power foids have due to their biology. They only let Chads to have kids, they will cuck you if they deem you a genetic dead-end but will still put up with the lie because she still wants your betabuxx, foids always keep custody of the kids and deny the father access to his kids, and they use children in order to get welfare and child support.

With artifical wombs replacing the biological role of women, men can just have kids when they want to without denial, they can keep their child and a man can raise his on his own without having to give additional resources to a hole.

We can still engineer and cultivate female egg cells, maybe via stem cells.

True that, in the current state men are also brainwashed into chasing female attention and validation, while also taught we are not entitled to it, that we must earn it but without the promise we will get it, kinda contradictory if you ask me.

Sex is a body need, like you need to cum into someone to be satisfied, with realistic sexbots that problem would be solved, it would need few generations to be normalized and not shamed and stigmatized.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

True that, in the current state men are also brainwashed into chasing female attention and validation, while also taught we are not entitled to it, that we must earn it but without the promise we will get it, kinda contradictory if you ask me.

It can go both ways. Feminists might see it as a liberation for men, but likewise it will be our liberation from foids.

Sex is a body need, like you need to cum into someone to be satisfied, with realistic sexbots that problem would be solved, it would need few generations to be normalized and not shamed and stigmatized.

Yes. Which hopefully also means no more simping and wasting money to escorts to support their livelihoods.

 

[Mecoja]

It can go both ways. Feminists might see it as a liberation for men, but likewise it will be our liberation from foids.

Yes. Which hopefully also means no more simping and wasting money to escorts to support their livelihoods.

Its hard for me to understand the simping. I understand if you personally know the girl and dumbly believe if you simp for her you increase your chances to fuck her, waste of time and all but i understand it.

What i dont get the men who simp for ethots, who donate a fair percentage of their money to online whores which is impossible to fuck, you cant get anything out of it. They want to betabuxx without having a chance to get anything back, except for tiny bits of female gratitude which is fake, they feel entitled on simps money and they hates simps guts.

I wonder if any guy could get a decent sex robot for a reasonable price, would they still chase the female validation and be simps for them, because you cant get the social part from sex bots, even if it has an solid AI. One day with advanced AI with emotion simulations and free will to an extent robots will personality mog humans.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Its hard for me to understand the simping. I understand if you personally know the girl and dumbly believe if you simp for her you increase your chances to fuck her, waste of time and all but i understand it.

What i dont get the men who simp for ethots, who donate a fair percentage of their money to online whores which is impossible to fuck, you cant get anything out of it. They want to betabuxx without having a chance to get anything back, except for tiny bits of female gratitude which is fake, they feel entitled on simps money and they hates simps guts.

Foids are witches and leaches. They know that they have sex appeal and will use that to get what they want.

Even though many of us idealize females as being beautiful angels sent from the heavens to do no wrong, at the end of the day they are mortal sacks of meat who have their own selfish interest and are just as wicked as any other human. They will use men for money and then they will cuck them. And then one day they will rot.

I wonder if any guy could get a decent sex robot for a reasonable price, would they still chase the female validation and be simps for them, because you cant get the social part from sex bots, even if it has an solid AI. One day with advanced AI with emotion simulations and free will to an extent robots will personality mog humans.

You don't need to feed sex bots or do anything else than to serve you. You can make her look however you want, give her whatever personality you want. You can create the perfect woman in your image, and she will never have selfish intentions and cuck you.

 

[Mecoja]

Foids are witches and leaches. They know that they have sex appeal and will use that to get what they want.

Even though many of us idealize females as being beautiful angels sent from the heavens to do no wrong, at the end of the day they are mortal sacks of meat who have their own selfish interest and are just as wicked as any other human. They will use men for money and then they will cuck them. And then one day they will rot.

You don't need to feed sex bots or do anything else than to serve you. You can make her look however you want, give her whatever personality you want. You can create the perfect woman in your image, and she will never have selfish intentions and cuck you.

Sounds perfect for us who cant get into relationships or who get treated bad by females, for me because i cant trust foids i would get a decent sexbot over a real foid any time of the day. But some guys want the social part of the relationship and excitement of seducing them, the chemical overflow of the starting part of the relationships and things like that. There will be always men who will have a need for real women (chadlite and up) But personally i wouldnt care let them do whatever they want if we could live a fulfilling life even if its artificial, i would be glad not to have to deal with humans especially foids bullshits.

 

[Bedford Stye]

Imagine the amount of single mothers supported by working men (through taxes)

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

if you don't meet the genetic requirements you are excluded. So at the end of the day it might be no different than the requirements we currently have for sperm banks, or if foids still exists but are only kept as harems for elite men like in The Handmaid's Tale.

I heard that they won't accept the incel sperm even if a donor has issues like high blood pressure.They just won't let incls to cheat the system and nature.

 

[Deleted member 41988]

Sex bots will be the answer

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

I heard that they won't accept the incel sperm even if a donor has issues like high blood pressure.They just won't let incls to cheat the system and nature.

If you don't meet the height requirements it's over. Height is the most important factor when it comes to donating sperm.

Race is also important since white donors probably have the highest demand amongst both white and ethnic foids.

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

What i dont get the men who simp for ethots, who donate a fair percentage of their money to online whores which is impossible to fuck, you cant get anything out of it. They want to betabuxx without having a chance to get anything back, except for tiny bits of female gratitude which is fake, they feel entitled on simps money and they hates simps guts.

Small outbursts of dopamine.For a moment they think that they actually get a girlfriend experience or whatever you want to call it.I just don't get how someone would pay for the e-girl with fake tits and tattoos.On the other side many guys who got money to waste just don't care-they will use their membership to jack off and will share the material on various sites and forums.But the power is still on the female side-a 51 year old woman is asking 35$ for her monthly subscription at OnlyFans,i'm not even kidding.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

But the power is still on the female side-a 51 year old woman is asking 35$ for her monthly subscription at OnlyFans,i'm not even kidding.

The fact that even grannies are jumping the OnlyFans bandwagon and that they are simps who would pay to see a naked granny shows just how lost we as a society are and how foids can never lose.

Most men can never get the amount of attention that a foid gets throughout her lifetime.

 

[Mecoja]

Small outbursts of dopamine.For a moment they think that they actually get a girlfriend experience or whatever you want to call it.I just don't get how someone would pay for the e-girl with fake tits and tattoos.On the other side many guys who get money to waste just don't care-they will use their membership to jack off and will share the material on various sites and forums.But the power is still on the female side-a 51 year old woman is asking 35$ for her monthly subscription at OnlyFans,i'm not even kidding.

I dont get it either, like those old and obese foids when there are countless of hot foids on those places to jerk off to. Maybe those men are so high inhib that cant interact with foids in real life so they unironically chose the ethots by personality and form a pseudo relationship in their head.

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

The fact that even grannies are jumping the OnlyFans bandwagon and that they are simps who would pay to see a naked granny shows just how lost we as a society are and how foids can never lose.

Most men can never get the amount of attention that a foid gets throughout her lifetime.

Not long ago i was convinced that i could get some older women.Now i ask myself why should a 50 yo woman would date me if she can get hotter and richer guys.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Not long ago i was convinced that i could get some older women.Now i ask myself why should a 50 yo woman would date me if she can get hotter and richer guys.

Yeah, the wall ain't gonna stop them. There really are Chads and normies who would fuck grannies.