Woke movement will eventually disolve and eat itself

[Deleted member 24272]

So ı SADLY have a twitter and ı cant count you how many times ı've seen sjws cancel eachother over the most stupid,specific reasons.
If ı remember it correctly that trannie named Contrapoints was almost canceled because he said something bad about degenerates who think they dont belong to any gender.
Meanwhile we regularly have threads about different races/political sides wanting to kill eachother yet we still have better unity.
An example meme ı found from someone else ;

 

[your personality]

Cope they are determined to take down incels and other low status guys with them long before that ever happens.

 

[Deleted member 21230]

This is what would happen if there wasn't (((something))) controlling it

 

[Words2_live_bye]

This is what would happen if there wasn't (((something))) controlling it

 

[TheWatchfulTiger24]

The whole woke movement is a self destroying movement. The woke white girls and men either don't believe in having kids, or want to have like 1 or 2 kids, and they will be quickly outbred by other demographic groups. Their kids, if they inherit their parents ideology, will suffer a similar fate. Those people that are woke and have a lot of kids will be absorbed and mixed together with black people, creating a mixed black and white demographic. The average African American today is already many shades lighter than the average Nigerian for example. What happens when you combine 12% black with 50% white and 35% light brown? You get a bunch of light brown people. Like Latin America. Sure some might preserve their racial identity after a long time, but in general that will matter less. You also have to take into account that darker skinned men prefer lighter skinned women. This is even common in the African American community. What effects will it have when the majority of people are mixed and brown, and the men keep choosing light skinned women?

In the end, anyone who is so woke that they don't believe in having and raising kids will go extinct. Any white people who are truly woke and have kids will cease to be woke, because their kids will be blackpilled since birth growing up either mixed or in an increasingly mixed society. Black people are rarely ever "woke" like white people. They are mainly using this to their advantage. In a society where people are increasingly less white, who can you blame for white privilege? I mean, you could blame light skinned Latinos, but they won't give you the time of day. When it all settles eventually, America will be a mixed society resembling Brazil, and woke liberalism will likely be dead because these types of ideologies can't survive the harsh reality of the world. Feminism by design can't survive in a world with little resources. All these movements are the result of decadence and wealth of the West.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

This is what would happen if there wasn't (((something))) controlling it

 

[your personality]

The whole woke movement is a self destroying movement. The woke white girls and men either don't believe in having kids, or want to have like 1 or 2 kids, and they will be quickly outbred by other demographic groups. Their kids, if they inherit their parents ideology, will suffer a similar fate. Those people that are woke and have a lot of kids will be absorbed and mixed together with black people, creating a mixed black and white demographic. The average African American today is already many shades lighter than the average Nigerian for example. What happens when you combine 12% black with 50% white and 35% light brown? You get a bunch of light brown people. Like Latin America. Sure some might preserve their racial identity after a long time, but in general that will matter less. You also have to take into account that darker skinned men prefer lighter skinned women. This is even common in the African American community. What effects will it have when the majority of people are mixed and brown, and the men keep choosing light skinned women?

In the end, anyone who is so woke that they don't believe in having and raising kids will go extinct. Any white people who are truly woke and have kids will cease to be woke, because their kids will be blackpilled since birth growing up either mixed or in an increasingly mixed society. Black people are rarely ever "woke" like white people. They are mainly using this to their advantage. In a society where people are increasingly less white, who can you blame for white privilege? I mean, you could blame light skinned Latinos, but they won't give you the time of day. When it all settles eventually, America will be a mixed society resembling Brazil, and woke liberalism will likely be dead because these types of ideologies can't survive the harsh reality of the world. Feminism by design can't survive in a world with little resources. All these movements are the result of decadence and wealth of the West.

Disagree imo because like antinatalism the conditions that give rise to those feelings in those ideologies will still be present and some of the children of the unwoke will become woke, just like children that are raised to be religious can become hardcore atheists or children that are raised in an atheist family can end up becoming very spiritual or religious when they grow up.

 

[TheWatchfulTiger24]

Disagree imo because like antinatalism the conditions that give rise to those feelings in those ideologies will still be present and some of the children of the unwoke will become woke, just like children that are raised to be religious can become hardcore atheists or children that are raised in an atheist family can end up becoming very spiritual or religious when they grow up.

True, but what I'm saying is that their ideology will lead to them going extinct. In reality, there is several different branches of what we consider "woke". There is black/minority woke, which is really just pushing for new advantages for minorities while ignoring feminsim and there is white woke, which is usually about feminism and not having kids to spite the patriarchy. The logical conclusion of white woke is mostly extinction. Those that make it through will eventually down the line be mixed with minorities. They will become increasingly solidified with minority groups and likely adopt traditional roles again. I honestly don't think feminism as we know it will survive this civilization in tact. Sure, some aspects of it might survive like women in the workplace, but the really crazy ones like not needing marriage or having kids are doomed to fail. Kids born to single mothers have demonstrably much worse lives. It is really a self correcting problem, because this modern way of life can only exist in a resource rich West. In the future, when the resources are gone, even the wokest women will have to side by strong men who secure resources. Can you honestly imagine women being conscripted into military services to fight endless wars between warring factions? Can you imagine women doing physically intensive tasks for that society, as opposed to rearing children?

 

[your personality]

True, but what I'm saying is that their ideology will lead to them going extinct. In reality, there is several different branches of what we consider "woke". There is black/minority woke, which is really just pushing for new advantages for minorities while ignoring feminsim and there is white woke, which is usually about feminism and not having kids to spite the patriarchy. The logical conclusion of white woke is mostly extinction.

I don't really see that happening tbh
At the end of the day all the supposed hatred of whites among liberal whites is just for show ngl. If you observe their actions up close you realize that they still mostly associate with other white people and still have a nonzero amount of children despite virtue signaling about the environment and social issues and how the world is too overpopulated.

The black/minority woke will probably proliferate a lot more but the liberal whites cultural bourgeoisie will remain intact.

Those that make it through will eventually down the line be mixed with minorities. They will become increasingly solidified with minority groups and likely adopt traditional roles again.

I don't think so tbh minority countries that aren't Asian are closer to being polygamous than traditionalist @BummerDrummer

I honestly don't think feminism as we know it will survive this civilization in tact. Sure, some aspects of it might survive like women in the workplace, but the really crazy ones like not needing marriage or having kids are doomed to fail. Kids born to single mothers have demonstrably much worse lives. It is really a self correcting problem, because this modern way of life can only exist in a resource rich West. In the future, when the resources are gone, even the wokest women will have to side by strong men who secure resources.

Feminism and women being privileged will continue as long as men have to live in the same society as women @NoCopeNoHope @mNFwTJ3wz9

 

[TheWatchfulTiger24]

I don't really see that happening tbh
At the end of the day all the supposed hatred of whites among liberal whites is just for show ngl. If you observe their actions up close you realize that they still mostly associate with other white people and still have a nonzero amount of children despite virtue signaling about the environment and social issues and how the world is too overpopulated.

That is true, except for the real crazies. Either ways, survival instinct usually overrides virtue signaling.

The black/minority woke will probably proliferate a lot more but the liberal whites cultural bourgeoisie will remain intact.

Somewhat, I think. I think white people will be more mixed, and you'll have a light skin/dark skin situation like you have in Latin America now. This is like 300 years from now though.

Feminism and women being privileged will continue as long as men have to live in the same society as women @NoCopeNoHope @mNFwTJ3wz9

Tbh, I think female privilege is different from feminism. Women have always been privileged in society. This is just a new breed of privilege that wants to exert more control. In the end, my end game scenario still technically has female privilege, just in a more traditional sense. I can't imagine men and women getting entirely the same cultural roles in only the next few thousand years.

 

[your personality]

That is true, except for the real crazies. Either ways, survival instinct usually overrides virtue signaling.

Not only that but such people can afford not to have large families since their ideas are already mainstream and the dominant narrative that shapes everyone's lives in western countries. And because regardless they still have enough children to continue their family line.

Somewhat, I think. I think white people will be more mixed, and you'll have a light skin/dark skin situation like you have in Latin America now. This is like 300 years from now though.

Yeah it will take some time but even then there will still be a lot of homogeneous communities liberal whites that live next to each other and away from minorities and lower class white people that they look down on.

Tbh, I think female privilege is different from feminism. Women have always been privileged in society. This is just a new breed of privilege that wants to exert more control. In the end, my end game scenario still technically has female privilege, just in a more traditional sense. I can't imagine men and women getting entirely the same cultural roles in only the next few thousand years.

I don't think so. Female privilege and feminism are closely related which is why even women that profess not to be feminists are still feminists because they benefit from the female privilege feminism has fought for. And it shouldn't be that women nicely go back to their cultural roles as homemakers with no penalty to them for treating low status men they have. And because future low status males will pay the price of having female privilege sticking around just like men in the 19th and 20th centuries experienced when women and the people that idolize them again push for them having more entitlements.

Female privilege in a more traditional sense just restarts the cycle of traditionalism and subsequent waves of feminism which @NoCopeNoHope has gone through before. That's an easy out to them at the expense of men.

 

[TheWatchfulTiger24]

Female privilege in a more traditional sense just restarts the cycle of traditionalism and subsequent waves of feminism which @NoCopeNoHope has gone through before. That's an easy out to them at the expense of men.

That's an interesting theory. I am a believer in the idea that civilizations go through cycles of development before crashing. Some ideas are kept while others are discarded. We can't truly know how the modern progressive ideology will survive into the future, but it should be noted that at one time the ideology of the American Founding Fathers was considered radical far left. Now it is viewed as backwoods hillbilly beliefs. I think the idea that something is 'progressive' depends on who is actually experiencing the "progressing".

 

[your personality]

That's an interesting theory. I am a believer in the idea that civilizations go through cycles of development before crashing. Some ideas are kept while others are discarded. We can't truly know how the modern progressive ideology will survive into the future, but it should be noted that at one time the ideology of the American Founding Fathers was considered radical far left. Now it is viewed as backwoods hillbilly beliefs. I think the idea that something is 'progressive' depends on who is actually experiencing the "progressing".

It's not just a theory imo. It's what's happened many times in the past as the cycles of feminism and traditionalism have repeated and men never being free from the expectations women and society impose on them. Now that people here know better they shouldn't agree to go back to such an arrangement. This is whether modern progressive ideology survives or a more gynocentric tradcuck organized religion mythos again emerges that governs society compared to now.

Until society stops being built off the backs and at the expense of low status men nothing will change. The narrative about this all being a cycle and that feminism will stop when society collapses is wishful thinking and I believe perpetuated to keep low status men in a narrow reference frame of thinking where they are forever dependent on women. Things only got worse during the "collapse" that was the Great Recession. During the "collapse" that was the coronavirus pandemic. Literally every change that involves low status men not separating from women and society fucks over low status men. See mylifeistrash's threads about this.

 

[TheWatchfulTiger24]

It's not just a theory imo. It's what's happened many times in the past as the cycles of feminism and traditionalism have repeated and men never being free from the expectations women and society impose on them. Now that people here know better they shouldn't agree to go back to such an arrangement. This is whether modern progressive ideology survives or a more gynocentric tradcuck organized religion mythos again emerges that governs society compared to now.

Until society stops being built off the backs and at the expense of low status men nothing will change. The narrative about this all being a cycle and that feminism will stop when society collapses is wishful thinking and I believe perpetuated to keep low status men in a narrow reference frame of thinking where they are forever dependent on women. Things only got worse during the "collapse" that was the Great Recession. During the "collapse" that was the coronavirus pandemic. Literally every change that involves low status men not separating from women and society fucks over low status men. See mylifeistrash's threads about this.

Oh, I get it now. It's gonna be really hard to convince most normies to have a paradigm shift and not treat women like infallible princesses though. Most people would just have the easy life as long as it doesn't affect them. Which is why incels have to work together and stick out for one another, as crazy as that sounds. The internet actually makes that more feasible.

 

[your personality]

Oh, I get it now. It's gonna be really hard to convince most normies to have a paradigm shift and not treat women like infallible princesses though. Most people would just have the easy life as long as it doesn't affect them.

Ye normies won't be onboard but the thing is as you know it's not them being most exploited by this system. It's low status sexless males as @AAAAAAAAAAAcel has also posted.

Which is why incels have to work together and stick out for one another, as crazy as that sounds. The internet actually makes that more feasible.

Yeah and that's what society doesn't want. They want low status men kept separate and away from each other to make it much harder to keep this from happening and reaching a consensus and realizing the troubles they have experienced aren't unique to them but that are the struggles of many other guys in similar situations. When you can't even connect with other like minded individuals there can be no serious discussion, correct evaluation of current events or planning ahead for the future for your group's self interests.
@JosefMengelecel

 

[TheWatchfulTiger24]

Yeah and that's what society doesn't want. They want low status men kept separate and away from each other to make it much harder to keep this from happening and reaching a consensus and realizing the troubles they have experienced aren't unique to them but that are the struggles of many other guys in similar situations. When you can't even connect with other like minded individuals there can be no serious discussion, correct evaluation of current events or planning ahead for the future for your group's self interests.
@JosefMengelecel

Exactly 100%. That is why there was a huge drive by the left in the last several years before Corona to paint incels as the most vile human beings imaginable, up there with Nazis. A lot of them even called them Nazis. The biggest irony being that like 50% of incel forum posters are probably brown. Anything to keep marginalized men from grasping a single straw of power.

 

[Deleted member 24726]

Cope they are determined to take down incels and other low status guys with them long before that ever happens.

 

[Deleted member 32502]

Woke movements will always collapse because some of them are more oppressed than others. It's a competition of oppressed anyway. They will first eliminate white women and Asians from that movement. But then nobody cares because it's mostly white women who are obsessed with all the """oppression""" and that kind of stuff

 

[your personality]

Exactly 100%. That is why there was a huge drive by the left in the last several years before Corona to paint incels as the most vile human beings imaginable, up there with Nazis. A lot of them even called them Nazis. The biggest irony being that like 50% of incel forum posters are probably brown. Anything to keep marginalized men from grasping a single straw of power.

That's all well and good but without serious action and planning for alternatives just discussing the realization of this is just as useless as shaking a stick in the wind. This is why @epillepsy has brought up the need for discussions about and implementations of using blockchain technology and @mNFwTJ3wz9 has talked about the need to move away from relying on cloud storage and centralized web hosting technology for setting up and maintaining websites and forums. Because that's the new trend: they target the web companies that host the servers to take off multiple websites registered on and overseen by that server.