Gonna start in a few days boyos hope I stay motivated and dont stop. Wish me luck the gym is really full of chad and chadlites but U hope I will crush them.
Good luck bro
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good luck
Gymceling is useless without roids. I know because I tried it for 2 years without anything to show for it.
not if you are high t
no man it depends
Cope.
Look, I have already gone through this phase. And I did A LOT of research on this topic during this time. Like, I was completely OBSESSIVE with this for a while, even going as far as spending thousands of dollars building my own home gym. And it was mentally hard for me to accept that all of this was bullshit. But it is.
You can't even begin to imagine how much bullshit the fitness industry is. Literally everything about your body except maybe bodyfat levels are almost purely genetic. How much muscle you carry without roids is merely determined by bone size and your T levels. Exercise has nothing to do with it. You can lift for 10+ years but without roids you will never put on more than just a few kg of muscle and that's it. You will not look any different than before. Every single good looking dude at the gym is on roids. No exceptions. Even forum users at the fitness forums will lie about their use.
But if you want to waste time and money on something you can't change like I did, then be my guest.
I'm jealous. I don't have any blackpilled friends. Always gymcel alone 
You can make gains without roids. The key is to lift heavy and eat a mass surplus of calories. Guys who say lifting while natty is useless either didn't put in work or more likely did not eat 3000-3500 calories daily. I went from a 145 lanky motherfucker to a 185 lbs guy with 14% body fat. I'm barely lifting atm and I'm still retaining mass while doing calisthenics. Now if you want <= 10-11% bf you'll need roids
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