200 years ago an ugly man could get married by making average income and taking a woman under his wing. Doesn't that sound better?
nah not all socialism is a Marxist type of socialism. There is national socialism and other forms of traditionalist right wing socialism. Anyways a third positionist society is the best way to run it
It does sound better, but it no longer exists because capitalists are always trying to lower wages and other expenses. That's why they flooded the work force with immigrants and foids.
Socialism inherently descends from leftism.
The reason capitalism changed is because of leftism and feminism. If we removed both capitalism would function fine. Remember that leftism is a cancer that always lurks, hoping to evolve into socialism.
No marxist socialism does there’s other forms of it. Capitalism descends from liberalism capitalism is heavily based off the ideas of Adam smith who was one of the philosophers of the enlightenment. Essentially the idea of capitalism is also intertwined with small government on the principle of laissez faire. The idea is the market should run by itself with no intervention, the means of production should be privately owned, and values the ideals of freedom. Most capitalists are pretty much just classical liberals.
Agreed. "Socialism" is just another name for fraud.
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I agree in principle. The free market allows one to get ahead with more than just looks, since looks are only one element of a myriad of things that are valued by society. Thereby unattractive men can offer their hard work and intelligence to make up for what they lack in looks, and if they go far enough they can even win over women this way. And indeed, this system worked in the old days, with many examples of truecels getting rich from sheer brilliance, and countless subhuman men who attained sex and marriage through exchange of money.
However, because it's subject to human nature, capitalism is still largely favorable to normalfags. Since good looks and being NT allows people to gain favor and build bigger networks which is essential to making a lot of money. This is less the case in a truly free market like in the Wild West, but in an environment like the current one where billionaires and corporations lobby the government to do their bidding, and there is simultaneously heavy regulation and resource concentration, networking and popularity becomes much more crucial than providing value to the market. But arguably the paradigm since the 1930s has shifted away from capitalism and towards a techno-industrialist corporatocracy.
However, because it's subject to human nature, capitalism is still largely favorable to normalfags. Since good looks and being NT allows people to gain favor and build bigger networks which is essential to making a lot of money. This is less the case in a truly free market like in the Wild West, but in an environment like the current one where billionaires and corporations lobby the government to do their bidding, and there is simultaneously heavy regulation and resource concentration, networking and popularity becomes much more crucial than providing value to the market. But arguably the paradigm since the 1930s has shifted away from capitalism and towards a techno-industrialist corporatocracy.
Leftism is just a vague idea of equality that can be interpreted in many ways. One can believe in equality for their own group but inequality for others. Hence there is no such thing as a truly socialist or capitalist economy anyway, most take elements from both.
Capitalism serves incels best without women's rights because it allows to aquire women via money.
High IQcel take and agreed.
Capitalism kind of gave women “rights”. Corporations are the major tools the Jews use to promote feminism and misandry amongst the population. Under a traditionalist authoritarian nationalized economy the workforce would be mostly men with women being back in the kitchen. The goal is to abolish feminism and with a country focused mainly on economic interests theyll ultimately support feminism to have more workers produce labor. Women in the workforce isn’t good for us
Leftism pushed women's rights. Not capitalism. Those in power want women to have rights so they have more control over the population. Same reason they push negro rights.
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True this guy talks a lot about it:
It does but the problem is that it's in the best interest of the industrial capitalists for women to work and for families and communities to be fragmented. Just consider how much profit is gained from a divorce. First the couple pays for a divorce lawyer, counseling, filing through the government, then the two separate couples must pay for their own house/apartment, car, utilities, groceries, etc. Then they both must work and pay for a babysitter and later the school system takes over the babysitting by collecting property taxes, and then the divorced couple pays dating apps/matchmaking service to find a new partner, and contraception for hookups, and so on. There's just too much money to be made for (((capitalists))) not to support it.
This is why a degree of socialism, but a kind that aims for national integrity rather than social equality, is necessary to prevent the proliferation of women's rights and other cancers of modernity. Think of for example, nationalization of a bank by a right-wing government, to insure the bank acts in the national interest. Once that sort of system is in place, capitalism can function well within it.
You just need a more controlling government that understands the truth about women in all honesty.
Capitalism is against that though
Ofc leftism pushed women’s rights trust me I’m far far far from a leftist I’m very very right wing. I’m so right wing in fact I see capitalism as a left wing concept
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Yeah pretty much. Government itself is a form of socialism, but the government reflects the values of the people, and our values are fucked.
One part of fascism is preventing the corruption of culture. I think that'd work better in all honesty.
Government ensured women have rights tbf. Not capitalism.
Yea one that was ran by Jews & Anglos. We kick those 2 groups out, separate by race, bring back the family unit, slow down the exponential growth of technology, the problem gets solved. Well it’s more complicated but these are the basics
It also helps women and normies and ensures they'll never be miserable from genetics.
Source?
I linked it already.
Women rights are perfectly consistent with capitalism though.
Capitalism is about increasing consumerism and exploiting labour: if women work they can consume more and there's more labour to exploit. In fact women are by far the biggest consumers
Capitalism didn't push women's rights. Those in power did.
So basically capitalists
Those at the top benefit off capitalism but aren't capitalism. They're the kike.
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The Jooos definitely have something to do with that but I think the main reason is that both Jewish and non-Jewish capitalists share the same interests.
The Jooos want a weak, diverse, and unstable society because usually when a community feels strong and homogeneous they seek to get rid of those they perceive as foreigners (i.e. the Jooos). Also if society is weak the strong bonds that the Jooos can historically form between each other in their small community are worth twice as much, because you're a strong group in a weak world.
The capitalists want all of those same things simply because when a community can't get together it's easier to exploit it. Plus it's highly unlikely that a diverse and heterogeneous community can act as one because people generally don't trust what they perceive as "diverse", it's human nature. That's why companies are obsessed with all this diversity bullshit. They don't give a fuck about blacks, fags, trannies etc. They just don't want people to realize they might have a common interest in join forces against the ruling class.
Leaked internal documents from an Amazon-owned company revealed that the company uses a "diversity index" in which the threat of unionization is "higher" at stores with "lower diversity".
Capitalism is just evolving to what the Jews are pushing. The Jews also want communism if possible. As long as it gives them power.
Yes the Jooos tried to infiltrate every group of pover since the mists of time because that's what they do. They did it with the Turkish Empire, the French revolution, the Russian revolution, the United States. But they never had as much power as they have now. The main reason is that never before today did their interests matched so perfectly those of the ruling class
They want socialism now so that only they can be powerful.
Most rich people in the world already come from wealthy families tho.
They didn't do anything to deserve this, except being lucky enough to be born in the right family.
Which is exactly why socialism shouldn't exist. If it does then normies lose nothing in the genetic lottery.
Agree. Socialism and marxism is dumb and cucked af.
Still full of shit cause most millionaires are not self made
How Do Millionaires Get Their Money?
Millionaires don’t always receive their wealth from family. Some are self-made and earn their fortune through hard work and ingenuity.www.businessnewsdaily.com
... nigga ... why would capitalist owned media be anti-capitalist ... nigga ...
People who already have absolute power and infinite money want a system where they get murdered by the poor? You are clearly a retard
Look at Venezuela. Socialism always leads to a small amount of people in power enjoying the luxuries of wealth etc... And anyone who's not in the government being poor and starving. It's about power. These people are sick. They can't just be content being rich, they have to have more and above all else they wish to inflict pain upon others.
Ouch, that's actually a tough and legitimate question unlike the ones that SFcels give me. I think apartments should be spacious for the sanity of foids. There needs to be an inner ring and outer ring to prevent access to outer doors and windows. Sounds cruel but we must end hypergamy by any means necessary.
pandering to liberals isn't submission to marxists. There are no Marxists with power outside of maybe Cuba and North Korea.
And capitalism ruined that. It's a silly argument, it's like me saying the USSR was good because women who had six children got a medal.
No, it's because capitalism needed consumerism to,increase profit. Cigarette companies would fund the feminist movement. Google torches of liberty Edward Bernays.
Rockerfeller funded the Temperance movement.
But should socialists support incels?
Who started welfare? Otto Bismark. Not a socialist.
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A common false assumption in the manosphere is that women are mostly milking the welfare system.
Some women are but the bigger problem imo is the upper class diversity hires. When big corps hire women for cushy jobs where they do fuck all and get paid 6 figures. That's what makes hypergamy go crazy, not the welfare checks.
Ethically? Yes. We are the social lumpenproletariat. Normies are the social proletariat. Incels are like the homeless, but for relationships and sex.
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Socialists hate incels.
Holy shit you're right for once. Except capitalism came first and liberalism to defend capitalism came second.
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