Midwestcel
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A long time ago, when humans moved to more agriculture based civilization, it exposed them to more germs and bacteria. Now high T suppresses the immune system. So the very high T men died out en masse and it became a necessity to breed with more feminine men as they didn't have sky high amounts of T suppressing their immune system which made the more resistant to the new bacteria that humans were coming into contact with.
Now when I say "feminine", keep in mind I am speaking in relative terms. An ancient human woman had the facial proportions of what would be considered "masculine" for a modern human man.
So women over time came to prefer men with some feminine features, which made modern humans more neotenous compared to our primate relatives. This made both men and women over time become more neotenous. Even what would be considered a hyper masculine man today would be "feminine" compared to an ancient hyper masculine man.
Homo sapiens is known from fossils to have had a mix of modern neotenic traits and older non-neotenic traits from its origin some 300000 years ago to the transition to early agriculture when the non-neotenic traits disappeared, which is theorized to be due to selection for the immune system adapting to survive a higher pathogen load caused by agriculture and men who retained more childlike traits being less burdened by weakening of the immune system from upper body musculature competing with the immune system over nutrients.
This may also explain why extreme musculature in men isn't attractive to most women. Most women don't like bodies like this
Probably because it signals too much T which indicates that the immune system could be compromised.
Now when I say "feminine", keep in mind I am speaking in relative terms. An ancient human woman had the facial proportions of what would be considered "masculine" for a modern human man.
So women over time came to prefer men with some feminine features, which made modern humans more neotenous compared to our primate relatives. This made both men and women over time become more neotenous. Even what would be considered a hyper masculine man today would be "feminine" compared to an ancient hyper masculine man.
Homo sapiens is known from fossils to have had a mix of modern neotenic traits and older non-neotenic traits from its origin some 300000 years ago to the transition to early agriculture when the non-neotenic traits disappeared, which is theorized to be due to selection for the immune system adapting to survive a higher pathogen load caused by agriculture and men who retained more childlike traits being less burdened by weakening of the immune system from upper body musculature competing with the immune system over nutrients.
Neoteny in humans - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This may also explain why extreme musculature in men isn't attractive to most women. Most women don't like bodies like this
Probably because it signals too much T which indicates that the immune system could be compromised.