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Serious Why we need religion (but not God) - It is that or we all rope

I am not a Christian. Who gave you that idea?

Civilization will collapse. It does not need any help. The question is what do you propose we do afterwards? Eat each other?
Purge the unworthy and those responsible for our current mess or demise, once they're all gone bring the greatest minds to the table figuring out how to rebuild a much better world with the old world order being completely annihilated off the face of this earth.

You sounded Christian with your hatred of pagans or polytheists.
 
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Also look at birds of paradise:
A food rich low on predators enviroment have made the birds of borneo to allocate the free time that they had on mating(which made the female birds pickier) and as a result, the males have went into hyper sexual dimorphism territory growing exxagerated traits that would kill them in a more food scarce and predator rich enviorment. Meanwhile the females remained as brown and plain as they always were.

In a way, the birds of paradise are are "worshipping" the female birds with overly complex ritual dances, plumes, and built nests full of fruits like no other species on earth.

This Is why I agree with you that there is a certain female worshipping relligion being formed right in front of our eyes in the western world where quality of life allows for it.
 
Also look at birds of paradise:
A food rich low on predators enviroment have made the birds of borneo to allocate the free time that they had on mating(which made the female birds pickier) and as a result, the males have went into hyper sexual dimorphism territory growing exxagerated traits that would kill them in a more food scarce and predator rich enviorment. Meanwhile the females remained as brown and plain as they always were.

In a way, the birds of paradise are are "worshipping" the female birds with overly complex ritual dances, plumes, and built nests full of fruits like no other species on earth.

This Is why I agree with you that there is a certain female worshipping relligion being formed right in front of our eyes.
In ancient times there was the cult of Venus that practically raised being female to actual godhood, but what is interesting from a study of general anthropology is how these ancient matriarchal cultures or societies collapsed in on themselves. Eventually the male gods intervened and the cult of Venus was no more.
 
Also look at birds of paradise:
A food rich low on predators enviroment have made the birds of borneo to allocate the free time that they had on mating(which made the female birds pickier) and as a result, the males have went into hyper sexual dimorphism territory growing exxagerated traits that would kill them in a more food scarce and predator rich enviorment. Meanwhile the females remained as brown and plain as they always were.

In a way, the birds of paradise are are "worshipping" the female birds with overly complex ritual dances, plumes, and built nests full of fruits like no other species on earth.

This Is why I agree with you that there is a certain female worshipping relligion being formed right in front of our eyes in the western world where quality of life allows for it.
Agreed

This bird of paradise clown world will soon disappear as predators multiply (criminals) and resource dwindle as a result
 
In ancient times there was the cult of Venus that practically raised being female to actual godhood, but what is interesting from a study of general anthropology is how these ancient matriarchal cultures or societies collapsed in on themselves.
Are you saying that men and women are different, and should fulfill their naturally inclined roles in a society for it to function and prosper?

Thats mysoginy, you stinky inkwell :soy:
 
Purge the unworthy and those responsible for our current mess or demise, once they're all gone bring the greatest minds to the table figuring out how to rebuild a much better world with the old world order being completely annihilated off the face of this earth.
How are "the greatest minds" going to be gathered? Who will do it?

After a world collapses you generally have lots of barbarians running around. Not generally the best minds and not giving a fuck about them either.
You sounded Christian with your hatred of pagans or polytheists.
As I said before many times. Imo, Christianity was based, when it worked. It no longer does. But its basic principle (turning every male into a beta) is still based. It is the only way to prevent foids from running after chads and accept monogamy.
 
Are you saying that men and women are different, and should fulfill their naturally inclined roles in a society for it to function and prosper?

Thats mysoginy, you stinky inkwell :soy:
Nature always reasserts itself, nature always finds a way even in periods of time in societies where mass delusion or hysteria becomes the norm.
 
How about a religion that values sex as natural as breathing air? Something to be enjoyed, indulged in, and celebrated as the greatest physical pleasure, Christian chastity got us into this mess with its insistence upon social puritanism which later translated into sexual purity.
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Fuck outta here with this progressive bullshit. I'm an incel because of this rampant hedonism and part of the reason why I can't get any virgin girl. Girls today have lost all their pair bonding abilities because of that exact same attitude towards sex.
Sex(besides prostitution) is something that should be between a husband and a wife or two long term partners.
You say that as if you're a Chad who gets sex on the regular lmao. You're an incel and you'd be even more miserable if everything became even more sexualised and degenerate. I can't live in such a society.
 
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Fuck outta here with this progressive bullshit. I'm an incel because of this rampant hedonism and part of the reason why I can't get any virgin girl. Girls today have lost all their pair bonding abilities because of that exact same attitude towards sex.
Sex(besides prostitution) is something that should be between a husband and a wife or two long term partners.
You say that as if you're a Chad who gets sex on the regular lmao. You're an incel and you'd be even more miserable if everything became even more sexualised and degenerate. I can't live in such a society.
There's nothing wrong with massive hedonism, it's just that we don't have it for the masses, it's become for only the top percentage of gated community delusionals. We basically live in a sexual oligarchy, sexual hedonism plus restrictions on general female sexual hypergamy is social paradise in my humble opinion. The elites presently however want the right to reproduction for themselves only with their eugenics based social depopulation initiatives. What they will however find out is that something instinctual, primal, and basic to life like human sexuality is not something that can be tightly controlled or regulated, its natural inclination is something that is wild, spontaneous, and uncontrollable. They will lose in their race to control that which cannot be controlled.
 
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There's nothing wrong with massive hedonism,
t. Hedonistic Chad
it's just that we don't have it for the masses, it's become for only the top percentage of gated community delusionals only.
Yes and that's what's wrong with hedonism. On its own it's fine what 2 degenerates do I don't give a fuck but when you want society as a whole to be more progressive and open about sex I have a problem. I mean let's be real, I wouldn't have any problems if I was a Chad banging new girls every day but I'm subChad. My looksmatch is getting getting creampied by Chad as we speak while I jerk off to porn. I will never get a virgin girl to pair bond with because of this progressive bullshit.
I'm a miserable incel because of the sexual revolution/hookup culture and prevalence of Online Dating.
We basically live in a sexual oligarchy, sexual hedonism plus restrictions on female sexual hypergamy is social paradise in my humble opinion.
Yes and that's why I hate society.
 
Are you saying that men and women are different, and should fulfill their naturally inclined roles in a society for it to function and prosper?
That's just biology and many people are okay with that being stated. But not blaming men more than women for the current state of things?
Thats misogyny, you stinky inkwell :soy:
 
How are "the greatest minds" going to be gathered? Who will do it?

After a world collapses you generally have lots of barbarians running around. Not generally the best minds and not giving a fuck about them either.

As I said before many times. Imo, Christianity was based, when it worked. It no longer does. But its basic principle (turning every male into a beta) is still based. It is the only way to prevent foids from running after chads and accept monogamy.
Barbarians all answer to a warlord or warlords plural. For me the future is the absolute destruction of modern civilization to which the survivors will be fighting it out amongst themselves for supremacy.

Not everybody is fighters so hopefully some thinkers, creators, and innovators will still exist to create said new world.

For me Christianity is responsible for the decline and collapse of the western world, not the sole reason of course mind you, but definitely one of the reasons as to why.
t. Hedonistic Chad

Yes and that's what's wrong with hedonism. On its own it's fine what 2 degenerates do I don't give a fuck but when you want society as a whole to be more progressive and open about sex I have a problem. I mean let's be real, I wouldn't have any problems if I was a Chad banging new girls every day but I'm subChad. My looksmatch is getting getting creampied by Chad as we speak while I jerk off to porn. I will never get a virgin girl to pair bond with because of this progressive bullshit.
I'm a miserable incel because of the sexual revolution/hookup culture and prevalence of Online Dating.

Yes and that's why I hate society.
You're utilizing the current concept of sexual hedonism to which I'm also against.

I'm thinking more on the lines of a kind of sexual hedonism able to compliment a traditional society format, where sexuality is celebrated, praised, and indulged in but within a mentally traditional social format meeting its needs, ambitions, or goals.
 
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t. Hedonistic Chad
Yes. That is what you are, @MarquisDeSade

Yes and that's what's wrong with hedonism. On its own it's fine what 2 degenerates do I don't give a fuck but when you want society as a whole to be more progressive and open about sex I have a problem. I mean let's be real, I wouldn't have any problems if I was a Chad banging new girls every day but I'm subChad. My looksmatch is getting getting creampied by Chad as we speak while I jerk off to porn. I will never get a virgin girl to pair bond with because of this progressive bullshit.
I'm a miserable incel because of the sexual revolution/hookup culture and prevalence of Online Dating.
The worse part about hedonism is that it degrades language, and therefore merit.

If you allow hedonism, people will start to think that you are wrong (about anything) just because you can't get laid. There are multiple testimonies about this on this forum. Like this one:

That is what the author of "Antarctica" calls having Authority-S superseding Authority-L

Not everybody is fighters so hopefully some thinkers, creators, and innovators will still exist to create said new world.
Innovators and thinkers cannot do anything on their own. If there is only chaos, nothing can be built. How did "thinkers, creators, and innovators" fare after the fall of the Roman Empire? Are you stupid?

For me Christianity is responsible for the decline and collapse of the western world, not the sole reason of course mind you, but definitely one of the reasons as to why.
That is Nietzchean bluepiller/SJW crap. This is exactly how they want you to think

And how exactly did Christianity made the West "decline"?
 
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Yes. That is what you are, @MarquisDeSade


The worse part about hedonism is that it degrades language, and therefore merit.

If you allow hedonism, people will start to think that you are wrong (about anything) just because you can't get laid. There are multiple testimonies about this on this forum. Like this one:

That is what the author of "Antarctica" calls having Authority-S superseding Authority-L


Innovators and thinkers cannot do anything on their own. If there is only chaos, nothing can be built. How did "thinkers, creators, and innovators" fare after the fall of the Roman Empire? Are you stupid?


That is Nietzchean bluepiller/SJW crap. This is exactly how they want you to think

And how exactly did Christianity made the West "decline"?
After enough people have been killed with the blood drenched ground as fertilizer new social orders are built out of chaos, history is filled with thinkers who have endured and survived chaotic periods of human history, but yes, many of them do die in the process.

No, it's not all purely SJW nonsense or Nietzschean philosophical gimmickery. Christianity's insistence upon original sin, social equality, social egalitarianism, sexual purity, globalism, and its constant love affair with chosenism is all contributing to the collapse of the west at present. Has been doing such for many years now.

Today's Christian sexual purity has evolved into a sort of Joel Olsteem only the upper middle class and wealthy shall procreate with them viewing themselves as the sort of chosen few where Jesus has been replaced by the God of money, capital, or wealth abundance basically. New social values often enough absorb prior old ones, ect. [Including secular variations now that economics dominates everything essentially becoming the new modern church.]

A subject for another time perhaps.
 
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I agree that with the current lack of religion/spirituality/connection the western world is doomed. An apocalypse is already on its way, we can only prevent its damage (reducing co2 to not get above 2degrees). Climate change is framed as being a problem of our economy and technology, but some philosophers living today proposed that the origins of climate change are psychocosmological. Our view on the world, reducing nature to an external entity which is out there, forgetting that we too are part of nature. I dont think it is good to get monotheistic religion back but having a sort of mystical religion with christian values could save us long term. Problem is people are too simple, to unempathic, too stupid for this too work. In order to create an order like this you need empathic philosophers, deep thinkers. The system doesnt seem to produce those people, or at least not enough because then we wouldnt have gotten to this point.

If we still have a chance is difficult question. I dont know if we can argue for a total breakdown and then some humans will continue living in a primitive setting. Radical eco terrorism might be a solution @TedKaczynski. He proposed nature as our new ,,god,, or object of worshipping.
 
I agree that with the current lack of religion/spirituality/connection the western world is doomed. An apocalypse is already on its way, we can only prevent its damage (reducing co2 to not get above 2degrees). Climate change is framed as being a problem of our economy and technology, but some philosophers living today proposed that the origins of climate change are psychocosmological. Our view on the world, reducing nature to an external entity which is out there, forgetting that we too are part of nature. I dont think it is good to get monotheistic religion back but having a sort of mystical religion with christian values could save us long term. Problem is people are too simple, to unempathic, too stupid for this too work. In order to create an order like this you need empathic philosophers, deep thinkers. The system doesnt seem to produce those people, or at least not enough because then we wouldnt have gotten to this point.

If we still have a chance is difficult question. I dont know if we can argue for a total breakdown and then some humans will continue living in a primitive setting. Radical eco terrorism might be a solution @TedKaczynski. He proposed nature as our new ,,god,, or object of worshipping.
The entire world is worried about climate change [laughs] meanwhile the entire world is on the verge of global economic collapse, civil wars, world war, natural resource depletion, and population demographic collapse. [Not to also forget the epidemic of entirely miserable fucking people psychologically everywhere which ought to be fun give another decade or two from now. Majority populations of absolutely miserable people in general never turns out well, it's like a pressure cooker overtime you know.]

Climate change is the least of my worries on my list of things to pay attention to.

Oh yeah, and now that we live in the age of Covid19 [whatever the fuck that is] enforced mandatory vaccines for unknown purposes along with future medical lock downs.
 
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@Marquis de Sade

Climate change is the biggest problem right now. Because it will trigger events which will make the whole planet collapse. Fuck economy, fuck civil war, fuck population demographic collapse. All of these things dont matter if there is no habitable planet anymore.
Of course all the problems stated are other shitty things sadly. I personally think trying to change the system is a Sisyphos task and one is better ignoring mainstream media, living a good life on this planet as long it is possible and then fly away.
 
@Marquis de Sade

Climate change is the biggest problem right now. Because it will trigger events which will make the whole planet collapse. Fuck economy, fuck civil war, fuck population demographic collapse. All of these things dont matter if there is no habitable planet anymore.
Don't believe bluepiller cucks. They are the ones who want you to believe in Climate Change

Do you know that Climate change hacks idealize Earth as a foid goddess ("Gaia") It is all feminist bullshit to distract us from what they are doing to us.
 
@Marquis de Sade

Climate change is the biggest problem right now. Because it will trigger events which will make the whole planet collapse. Fuck economy, fuck civil war, fuck population demographic collapse. All of these things dont matter if there is no habitable planet anymore.
Of course all the problems stated are other shitty things sadly. I personally think trying to change the system is a Sisyphos task and one is better ignoring mainstream media, living a good life on this planet as long it is possible and then fly away.
So, what exactly? Kill off a few billion people and then round up the surviving members of humanity under a technological transhumanist totalitarian society? Nah, this entire world's future is endless fighting, chaos, and death. Frankly, I can only hope this earth destroys modern technological society where nature reclaims its existential throne, this society doesn't do me any personal favors, I care nothing about it whatsoever.
 
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Don't believe bluepiller cucks. They are the ones who want you to believe in Climate Change

Do you know that Climate change hacks idealize Earth as a foid goddess ("Gaia") It is all feminist bullshit to distract us from what they are doing to us.
Okay if you argue all of climate change and loss of biodiversity is a conspiracy theory we leave the realms of discussion and every argument becomes valid. ,,The jews are just brainwashing me in believing in climate change, destruction of nature due to industries etc,,

Climate change is not distracting us from what they are doing to us. It shows exactly what ,,they,, are doing to us. This planet gets heated up for resources which benefit a small elite and takes away our life source. Its now almost impossible to find free land to live off, everybody is a slave under some form of governemnt which serves western capitalism. Its all about that and how ridiculous the economy became. Eco terrorism is exactly about that.

So, what exactly? Kill off a few billion people and then round up the surviving members of humanity under a technological transhumanist totalitarian society? Nah, this entire world's future is endless fighting, chaos, and death. Frankly, I can only hope this earth destroys modern technological society where nature reclaims its existential throne, this society doesn't do me any personal favors, I care nothing about it whatsoever.

It was not always like this, there have been tribes existing in relative harmony with nature for thousands upon thousands of years. High culture developed only 3k BC. But true, the dangers of a fascist technological totalitarian society is there.
 
Religion consists in dedicating your life to something that is greater that you (this is called "transcendence" because that thing that is greater than you transcends you)
Religion is a hoax the elite pushed upon illiterate and low IQ people to control them better.
 
Religion is a hoax the elite pushed upon illiterate and low IQ people to control them better.
That is what is what bluepiller/SJW priests want you to believe so that you remain a devotee of their stealthy/unacknowledged religion (Science/foid worship)
 

اللَّهُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَنْ ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاءَ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ



Allah! There is no God but He,
the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal.
No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep.
All things in heaven and earth are His.
Who could intercede in His presence without His permission?
He knows what appears in front of and behind His creatures.
Nor can they encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills.
His throne extends over the heavens and the earth,
and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them,
for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.
 
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اللَّهُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَنْ ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاءَ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ



Allah! There is no God but He,
the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal.
No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep.
All things in heaven and earth are His.
Who could intercede in His presence without His permission?
He knows what appears in front of and behind His creatures.
Nor can they encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills.
His throne extends over the heavens and the earth,
and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them,
for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.
Islam is not bad but, honestly, Christianity is better.

Actually was better, because it is now dead. And Islam is going to die soon too. It has persisted longer because Muslim countries are more backward. But in the end it will be the same.

When I say that Christianity is "better", I mean that it is, overall, a more effective mental cleansing method, in the sense of this post:

The Ayaats above can be used to the same effect, though. Muslims do achieve the cleansing-by-crying mental state.
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That is what is what bluepiller/SJW priests want you to believe so that you remain a devotee of their stealthy/unacknowledged religion (Science/foid worship)
lol that's just reality, you sound blueepilled bro
 
How do you know "reality"?
dude? there's no Allah, Yahweh,Shiva, etc....that's reality , i'm talking about that. no invented sky daddy exist bro
 
Islam is not bad but, honestly, Christianity is better.

Actually was better, because it is now dead. And Islam is going to die soon too. It has persisted longer because Muslim countries are more backward. But in the end it will be the same.
Muslim Countries are backwards, in what way?

Christianity is a joke, the bibles new testament contradicts everything in the old testament and gives sinners a free pass. If it had stuck with just the old testament it might have had some legitimacy.
 
Yeah I'm religious

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Muslim Countries are backwards, in what way?
Take Egypt, Syria and Iraq. Compare them to France, England and Canada. What do you see?

Christianity is a joke, the bibles new testament contradicts everything in the old testament and gives sinners a free pass. If it had stuck with just the old testament it might have had some legitimacy.
Christianity was the most effective way to fight foid worship. It made the West, and the West is the most advanced culture the world had ever seen.

What did Islam do? Nothing. It kept the Middle East from evolving until it was surpassed in every way by the West.
 
Take Egypt, Syria and Iraq. Compare them to France, England and Canada. What do you see?
Okay sure In France England and Canada, more females dressing like sluts and much higher male suicide rates?
 
Link the proposals pls.
 
Christianity was the most effective way to fight foid worship. It made the West, and the West is the most advanced culture the world had ever seen.

What did Islam do? Nothing. It kept the Middle East from evolving until it was surpassed in every way by the West.
Key word here is "was". Surpassed in the number of single mothers, whores, gay bars and STD's?
 
Key word here is "was". Surpassed in the number of single mothers, whores, gay bars and STD's?
All things have an end. Islam also will. Soon. As soon as they "catch up" with the West
 
All things have an end. Islam also will. Soon. As soon as they "catch up" with the West

This is where comparing Islam to Christianity isn't the best idea. The prophet Muhammad oversaw the completion of the Quran and made it clear it is to be taken literally not some wishy washy stories for guidance that can be engulfed by liberalism the way new testament is interpretated these days, he then made rules on apostasy to stop people leaving the fold, did you know a muslim foid who marries a non-muslim is an apostate punishable by death?

Sorry to hear your religion is dead and buried but there really is no comparison with Christianity to predict what will happen to Islam in the future. The US spent trillions of dollars trying to remove the Islamic Taliban, the most high tech weaponary and western brainwashing couldn't do it. Islam is built differently.
 
My general rule in religion, I don't like Christianity, Judaism, or Islam. I hate anything of Abraham.

Me cringe? I worship chaos gods while the rest of you hope Jesus comes back with the rapture.
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Do you worship cthulhu
 
This is where comparing Islam to Christianity isn't the best idea. The prophet Muhammad oversaw the completion of the Quran and made it clear it is to be taken literally not some wishy washy stories for guidance that can be engulfed by liberalism the way new testament is interpretated these days, he then made rules on apostasy to stop people leaving the fold, did you know a muslim foid who marries a non-muslim is an apostate punishable by death?

Sorry to hear your religion is dead and buried but there really is no comparison with Christianity to predict what will happen to Islam in the future. The US spent trillions of dollars trying to remove the Islamic Taliban, the most high tech weaponary and western brainwashing couldn't do it. Islam is built differently.
It is not my religion dumbass. I am Japanese
 
Is there a nice list of "cleansing rituals" i don't remember the one from the Antarctica book. Or that islame crying thing... It seems easy.

Is there a formula for them?
 
Is there a nice list of "cleansing rituals" i don't remember the one from the Antarctica book. Or that islame crying thing... It seems easy.
The word "ritual" is not exactly the right one.

"Mental Gymnastics" or "meditation" would be better alternatives. Some mental gymnastics techniques include rituals but they are never the central element.

Is there a formula for them?
Christianity was such a formula. If you went through the mental gymnastics prescribed by Christianity, and believed in it, the cleansing effect would be obtained (you would feel "saved")

Today, sadly, it no longer work for most people.

This is what I would suggest: going through the following series of mental steps every day:
  • Think all the times in which you were rejected, ostracized or bullied.
  • Think "I deserved it" as you remember each instance
  • Think about all the bullshit you believed in as a bluepiller, and all the time you tried to convince someone of it
  • Think about all the false promises you made (of the same kind as saying "it is about your personality")
  • Think "that is why I deserve to be rejected, ostracized, bullied"
  • Think that all this barely scratches the surface of what you did wrong.
The point is not whether all this is actually "deserved" or not (we can argue about this until the cows come home) The point is to use whatever feelings of guilt you do have as a mental-cleansing tool (shame = guilt).

Do this until you cry.

After crying, think about how nice it would be to be picked-up by an alien spaceship crewed by a really superior race, and become their pet.

The idea here is to think like a dog. A dog is happy to be a pet because it realizes that we are truly superior to him and that, therefore, we are genuinely able to solve all his problems better than he could even imagine. We would be in the same situation as a pet of a truly superior alien race.

All of the above is one way the essence of Christianity can be "translated" into modern terms. I am not pretending it is the only one or even the best. There still a lot of work to be done in that direction. We are just at the beginning.
 
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The word "ritual" is not exactly the right one.

"Mental Gymnastics" or "meditation" would be better alternatives. Some mental gymnastics techniques include rituals but they are never the central element.


Christianity was such a formula. If you went through the mental gymnastics prescribed by Christianity, and believed in it, the cleansing effect would be obtained (you would feel "saved")

Today, sadly, it no longer work for most people.

This is what I would suggest: going through the following series of mental steps every day:
  • Think all the times in which you were rejected, ostracized or bullied.
  • Think "I deserved it" as you remember each instance
  • Think about all the bullshit you believed in as a bluepiller, and all the time you tried to convince someone of it
  • Think about all the false promises you made (of the same kind as saying "it is about your personality")
  • Think "that is why I deserve to be rejected, ostracized, bullied"
  • Think that all this barely scratches the surface of what you did wrong.
The point is not whether all this is actually "deserved" or not (we can argue about this until the cows come home) The point is to use whatever feelings of guilt you do have as a mental-cleansing tool (shame = guilt).

Do this until you cry.

After crying, think about how nice it would be to be picked-up by an alien spaceship crewed by a really superior race, and become their pet.

The idea here is to think like a dog. A dog is happy to be a pet because it realizes that we are truly superior to him and that, therefore, we are genuinely able to solve all his problems better than he could even imagine. We would be in the same situation as a pet of a truly superior alien race.

All of the above is one way the essence of Christianity can be "translated" into modern terms. I am not pretending it is the only one or even the best. There still a lot of work to be done in that direction. We are just at the beginning.
Wow bro... That's fucking amazing!
(Thanks for helping me have a better understanding of my animal buddies;;; )

In my various cult explorations i have witnessed similar behaviors. "Let go and let god... (Handle it)" & "WE ARE WINNING! (against the forces of evil)"

It's similar to the "break them down via abuse, & build them back better, via military training" of the various .mils. Where you go in, a lazy slob loser and come out a disciplined skilled winner.

Shit like that is how chriSTAINity got popular with most losers around here. Now they can feel like superior Saints! (That a few years ago would stab you for a cigarette)

Such a meme tool is very valuable.
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Oh yeah, according to the minds of my animal friends, I'm the big giant that gives food! (And don't get in the big giants way or he'll step on you and that hurts!)
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I refuse to consider them to be...
"Fur babies!"
That's just creepy!!!
 
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