May happen in fragile countries like Brazil, in rich, powerful countries I doubt it.
Serious Why we can't revert back to former times (patriarchy won't come back)
What do you think will happen? The welfare states are mathematically unsustainable in all countries. They just kick the can forward but it will have to come to an end sometime.
Both. Imagine being a 20-year-old fascist supporter in 1945. The decades that followed were relentless pain and humiliation. That could explain why contemporary far right circles have a huge overlap with the mentally ill demographic.
I had that hope too, but in reality he’s just there to make himself and his friends some money. He doesn’t care about the state of left vs right politics he just does whatever he believes suits him best
The question is, do their voter base believe this? The answer is no, because a majority of the left have no clue what’s going on in our government. They just watch some commercials, scroll through the libtard echo chamber that is social media, and when the vote they vote democrat for every option without even knowing the names of who they’re putting in office
What makes you think they are unsustainable? Declining IQ? Because economists widely agree that they are sustainable.
That's changing and there already lots of blackpillers on social media now. Once the cat is out the bag there's no way to put it back in.
Interesting, though I fail to see the connection to today’s right wing politicians and their supporters. I’d say their acceptance of Trump is due to Obama’s 8 year term and the liberal shit storm he facilitated and encouraged
My point is that they are no longer susceptible to the truth. The youth is just as brainwashed as ever, all facets of human communication and information have been corrupted by the influence of the left, and for every blackpiller on social media there is over tens of thousands of those who would seek to oppose and silence him however they can. Ever since the 60s we have steadily been losing ground and nothing short of a conservative totalitarian regime (which will of course be impossible to construct) will fix that
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Orthodox Jews were an obscure group a few generations ago, and now they are on their way to making up the majority of Jews:
https://forward.com/opinion/357517/...s-transforming-the-american-jewish-community/
Righteous cultures always end up crushing degenerate cultures due to high birthrates. I am very curious to see if we will see a dramatic increase of Fundamentalist Baptists in the next few decades.
https://forward.com/opinion/357517/...s-transforming-the-american-jewish-community/
Righteous cultures always end up crushing degenerate cultures due to high birthrates. I am very curious to see if we will see a dramatic increase of Fundamentalist Baptists in the next few decades.
I prefer Conservative or even Liberal Muslim women, that these worthless, brainwashed by feminism, semi-women from France, Sweden, Holland, England, Germany and other places.
Your comments shows, that these who say, it is Liberalism which stands behind Islamic Terrorism, are right. Without Liberalism, without cultural Marxism, there would be no problems with anything. No problems with Muslims or "radical" Islam as well.
Sorry, but If I had a choice, to live in Istanbul or Doha and to live in Berlin or London, I would choose, the former. Sorry, but I do not understand, what is wrong in the fact, that Muslim women, unlike Western ones, KNOW WHERE THEIR PLACE IS.
I must admit I'm not well versed in economy but from what I've read and listened to, not only the welfare states, but also the whole modern fiat currency and debt base economy are unsustainable. Things like the Dollar losing 95%+ of his value within the last centuries and so on are related.
Hmm.
I live in such country. It's called Israel.
Dead language is used again in everyday life, former empire restored to a golden age.
For now, let's see what are their rights. The right to get rid of somebody just by pure allegations of sexual assault without proof is already taken from them.
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"the patriarchy never existed"
what is the fucking stone ages?
what is the fucking stone ages?
Those who write these things on the internet are depressed cranks and broken clocks like Peter Schiff or Gerald Celente, not serious economists. Debt is perfectly sustainable for most developed nations.
Well, you seem better versed on economy than me and you're also rich so what can I say. Bummer, I was hoping for a collapse tbh
We'll know the future when it comes. Greet it too early, weep too soon.
When I look on European geopolitics, I see, that, nothing has changed. Yes, we are returning slowly to the "Concert of Powers", times. Russia acts irresponsibly, Turkey acts irresponsibly, UK acts irresponsibly, Germany does exactly the same, Poland too, France, Italy and so on. Politics in Europe is changing very rapidly. Everything we witness, in Europe is nothing else, than an end of post-1945, Liberal-Marxist Utopia. Yet, it does not mean, the end of Era of Peace.
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So you don't think there was some form of feminism building up to USSR? Or Nazi Germany? Feminism is a tool for promoting authoritarian systems of government. Rather it calls itself feminism or something else. Patriarchies are broken down and transormed into feminism, breeding degeneracy and this leads to collapse.
High IQ.
There is no such thing as patriarchy the way feminists imagine it; a vast male conspiracy against them.
What happens is that certain forces conspire to shape human societies. They are as uncaring as gravity, as unreasoning as the wind. As inescapable as the cycle between day and night.
What patriarchy really is, is nothing but the natural end result of these forces. It will return. For some of the world it never left. Pakistan for example. All it will take is destabilization. The instant we are in a situation where the police don’t come when you call, or there is no working phone system to call them, we will live in a patriarchy again.
Some of the no go Islamic slums in France and Germany are already tiny patriarchies.
Because that is the only thing that stops men from simply breaking the nose of a foid who displeases them, and rapeing a foid who thinks she is too good for him.
Saying patriarchy was real is like saying the school was a literal prison. It's hyperbole, humanity was never actively creating ways to oppress women solely on the fact they were women. Women got oppressed when they were part of a general oppressed group: Blacks, jews, christians, native american, etc. Never in history, women have been persecuted for being women.
High iq. A white woman had it a lot better than a black man 100 years ago, that's for sure.
Low iq
Society did reverse during the two dark ages though. The one following the bronze age collapse and the one following the roman empire's fall. Countless cultures and empire are but dust now. You never know what the future holds.
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Patriarchy was never about oppressing women, it was once a thing but it was never about oppressing women. You are correct on everything else you said here.
"Reverse", are you sure? I rather think that new, completely unknown structures emerged each time. For example, the feudal system was different from a simple kingdom.
True. In that sense you are right. But new structures permit attributes of old structures. Eg. Patriarchy. But it won't be the one that grew from Christian feudal society. Likely non Chad men, undesirables, will be processed soon though.
If I were to make a guess, we'll go with almost no transition from feminism to transhumanism (body modification, neural implants, artificial wombs etc). By the end of this century sex will be very fluid, or irrelevant.
The current society will collapse and then we can revive traditionalism. It's naive to think that this joke can go on forever, but it might take so long that we will never see it and the transition might be difficult so what ever happens we can be sure of that all we who live now lost hard.
100,000 USD that your deceased body will be cremated or eaten by worms before traditionalism is revived.
Incels want to get married???
Some MGTOW are thanking the femminists for the liberation from the gender roles. Since i am a lazycel, i like feminism and don't care about those mangina's who want to marry and can't do it due to feminist liberation.
Some MGTOW are thanking the femminists for the liberation from the gender roles. Since i am a lazycel, i like feminism and don't care about those mangina's who want to marry and can't do it due to feminist liberation.
Tbh I think that during my lifetime( at least my potential lifetime) progressivism will die and we will be on a path back to the old ways, maybe not reach the ideal society but at least be on our way there. But my youth will be gone and all my chances for romance dead so I don't even know if I should care about it.
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stop spamming senseless topics, patriarchy can not come back
That's exactly what my topic says. Lay down the crack pipe.
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We all pray for AI waifus
What's the cope? I even said it does nothing for me because It's already too late for us anyways. But How can you possibly think that this can continue? Women has never had any sexual rights and all their sexual sins was punishable by death, in the last 100 years they got men's rights and in the last 10 years their debauchery is even worshiped. Just wait for a greater war or until just a fraction of men becomes blackpilled and stops working.
Where do you see humanity heading then?
The thing is Fontaine. Chances are the Chinese will take over the world and establish a global Empire. They HAVE had an empire before. Women are already lesser than men there, so they dont need to "go back" to patriarchy. They are already more or less feudalisitic.
If the West does nothing about it, of course
The thing is Fontaine. Chances are the Chinese will take over the world and establish a global Empire. They HAVE had an empire before. Women are already lesser than men there, so they dont need to "go back" to patriarchy. They are already more or less feudalisitic.
If the West does nothing about it, of course
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China has a lot of problems. If you listen to actual western expats there, like serpentZA, you'll quickly understand. They could take over if they are the first to discover artificial general intelligence, but I doubt they will be.
All countries are having problems though. They're already making moves in the South Pacific. And I don't think they need an AI.
It seems like you are missing a huge detail here — technological development.
Feminism didn't flourish just because, it was interconnected with several factors like the necessity of women to work after WW2, he invention of the pill etc. Live can't go in circles, and you can't predict future based on past events if there are technological advancements.
I predict that people will live much longer in Western countries, up to 120 years in not so distant future. Perhaps, some of us will experience that. It can't just happen with no effect on society.
Also, life is much easier and cheaper now than it was before. Feminism also grew because before women spent all day taking care of the house and the kids or used the help of several maids. In the past in Europe, men who weren't extremely poor, couldn't survive without a maid too. Everyone would get married because it made their life more convenient, but not now.
I am a bit all over the place, but what I am saying is that the world changed significantly and every single change affects society. Patriarchy just wouldn't be viable today in a western world. It survived in African and Arab countries also for a reason. They had different history, different society and even climate.
So what I think will happen, is the implementation of universal basic income. It's inevitable. More and more work is given to machines, so the cost of living will drop until it would be cheaper to just pay everyone a certain amount of money to live, so they can contribute back to the economy. And I'm not talking about some grand socialistic ideas, it still will be free market and capitalism, but people no longer will have to work if they don't want to. We see it already, with free healthcare in some countries and welfare.
As for sexual frustration, I'm sure that surgeries will be affordable or even free for the ugliest people. Something like a "surgical welfare".
Feminism didn't flourish just because, it was interconnected with several factors like the necessity of women to work after WW2, he invention of the pill etc. Live can't go in circles, and you can't predict future based on past events if there are technological advancements.
I predict that people will live much longer in Western countries, up to 120 years in not so distant future. Perhaps, some of us will experience that. It can't just happen with no effect on society.
Also, life is much easier and cheaper now than it was before. Feminism also grew because before women spent all day taking care of the house and the kids or used the help of several maids. In the past in Europe, men who weren't extremely poor, couldn't survive without a maid too. Everyone would get married because it made their life more convenient, but not now.
I am a bit all over the place, but what I am saying is that the world changed significantly and every single change affects society. Patriarchy just wouldn't be viable today in a western world. It survived in African and Arab countries also for a reason. They had different history, different society and even climate.
So what I think will happen, is the implementation of universal basic income. It's inevitable. More and more work is given to machines, so the cost of living will drop until it would be cheaper to just pay everyone a certain amount of money to live, so they can contribute back to the economy. And I'm not talking about some grand socialistic ideas, it still will be free market and capitalism, but people no longer will have to work if they don't want to. We see it already, with free healthcare in some countries and welfare.
As for sexual frustration, I'm sure that surgeries will be affordable or even free for the ugliest people. Something like a "surgical welfare".
"The empire is falling! There's never going to be an empire again!"
"Caesar is dead! There's never going to be a Caesar again!"
Empires fall and new empires emerge. Heroes die and new heroes are born. A patriarchal system will fall and a new one will emerge. To say that history is a linear progression is a misunderstanding of it.
"Caesar is dead! There's never going to be a Caesar again!"
Empires fall and new empires emerge. Heroes die and new heroes are born. A patriarchal system will fall and a new one will emerge. To say that history is a linear progression is a misunderstanding of it.
Oswald Spengler believed civilisations happened in cycles, like seasons in a year
I've always wanted read some works of Oswald Spengler, especially his opus magnum "Der Untergang des Abendlandes (The Decline of the West)", but it's over a 1000 pages long.
I own it, but ive never finished it
Is there a lot of unnecessary stuff in it? I hate when authors are trying to make a great point but they don't get to the point.
No, it's a mastapeece. Its incredibly well written. I got distracted though and didn't finish it. Not the books fault, its a character flaw of mine to leave stuff almost finished
Mega cope.
I rather think the misunderstanding is the cyclical view. There's good evidence history is linear, and that this linearity is caused by irreversible technological advance.
Successful reversals of historical increments have been rare and have never lasted very long.
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No.
There is not one single civilisation which survived thruout history, that wasnt based on patriarchy. A society without patriarchy cannot survive for long and the coming decades we will start to see the collapse really good, well we see it already actually, then things will revert back to its only functioning way of being.
There is not one single civilisation which survived thruout history, that wasnt based on patriarchy. A society without patriarchy cannot survive for long and the coming decades we will start to see the collapse really good, well we see it already actually, then things will revert back to its only functioning way of being.
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