Welcome to Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate Forum

Welcome! This is a forum for involuntary celibates: people who lack a significant other. Are you lonely and wish you had someone in your life? You're not alone! Join our forum and talk to people just like you.

Serious Why we can't revert back to former times (patriarchy won't come back)

Fontaine

Fontaine

Overlord
★★★★★
Joined
Nov 15, 2017
Posts
5,417
Simply because that never happened in history. Not once. History always moves forward, never backwards. We've never seen a dead religion coming back to life, a dead language being used again, armies reverting to cavalry after using tanks, a king dynasty coming back to power after being beheaded, a former empire being restored to its golden age, etc.
 
Need to go to Tokyo before the Zionists ruin it.

Once something is gone it's lost forever.

I have a premonition the 2020 Tokyo Olympics will mark the turning point of that country.

Thread incoming. Standby.

Determined
 
Cope. According to that feminism will die too, and men will gain power through a new form of patriarchy.
 
The ultimate gigaton thermonuclear vantablackpill is that civilization and patriarchy are the same thing.. one can not exist without the other.. civilization is on its way out. We’re going back to the jungle..

No successful civilization on earth has EVER known unrestricted female sexuality.. this is the FIRST time the two exist together.. it’s uncharted territory for a civil world.. things will NOT end well
 
The ultimate gigaton thermonuclear vantablackpill is that civilization and patriarchy are the same thing.. one can not exist without the other.. civilization is on its way out. We’re going back to the jungle..

No successful civilization on earth has EVER known unrestricted female sexuality.. this is the FIRST time the two exist together.. it’s uncharted territory for a civil world.. things will NOT end well
What is the link with my OP? It's not a discussion on whether patriarchy is vital or not - but a discussion on whether historical increments can be reverted. The answer is no - that never happened in history, despite many attempts and temporary, illusory successes.
 
Need to go to Tokyo before the Zionists ruin it.

Once something is gone it's lost forever.

I have a premonition the 2020 Tokyo Olympics will mark the turning point of that country.

Thread incoming. Standby.

View attachment 50289
Japan died after ww2 its already zionist Heaven
 
Cope. According to that feminism will die too, and men will gain power through a new form of patriarchy.
Biggest cope I have ever seen in my entire life.
 
I don't follow your logic.
According to what you wrote since things keep advancing patriarchy was replaced, so that must mean soon feminism will also be replaced.
 
to my mind patriarchy is the natural mode of being. Absent of heavy societal pressures, the state of man will always revert back to patriarchy. It's everything else that is the unnatural.
 
According to what you wrote since things keep advancing patriarchy was replaced, so that must mean soon feminism will also be replaced.
Probably, but not with patriarchy. That will probably be a synthetic system, or something new entirely.
 
This is the end of the line huh? Man, we're doomed
 
to my mind patriarchy is the natural mode of being. Absent of heavy societal pressures, the state of man will always revert back to patriarchy. It's everything else that is the unnatural.
This is just your opinion. Certain primitive tribes are matriarchal.
 
What is the link with my OP? It's not a discussion on whether patriarchy is vital or not - but a discussion on whether historical increments can be reverted. The answer is no - that never happened in history, despite many attempts and temporary, illusory successes.
I’m taking it a step further and talking about the consequences of patriarchy not coming back. I’m not denying what you’re saying
 
Biggest cope I have ever seen in my entire life.
We already got kavanah and trump in office. Jfl if you think feminism will last in the next 5-10 years with all these blackpills being dropped everywhere and a shift in political direction.
 
This is just your opinion. Certain primitive tribes are matriarchal.
the overwhelming bulk of human societies have been patriarchal
 
JD Unwin would agree with you, he anthropologymaxxed and concluded that every society that entered a decline, it never recovered and instead died out to be replaced by something else.
 
Not yet....
I am ready to bet 100,000 USD with you that you will die and be cremated / interred before western women begin to lose some of their rights. I actually have the money, and I mean it.
 
I am ready to bet 100,000 USD with you that you will die and be cremated / interred before western women begin to lose some of their rights.
Hey that's not fair! Pick on someone healthy and young.
 
Fertility rate of white people will keep falling down even lower and lower, and in the end Asians and Africans will conquer Europe and North America and enslave whites
 
I am ready to bet 100,000 USD with you that you will die and be cremated / interred before western women begin to lose some of their rights. I actually have the money, and I mean it.
I will be glad to take your money then.
 
I guess you never heard of a Restoration?
Funny question to ask a Frenchman. Of course I have. And how long did the Restoration last, pray tell?
JD Unwin would agree with you, he anthropologymaxxed and concluded that every society that entered a decline, it never recovered and instead died out to be replaced by something else.
German historian, mathematician and philosopher Oswald Spengler wrote the same thing in the 1920s, resulting in his condemnation by the NSDAP. Turns out he was right - the NSDAP failed
 
We already got kavanah and trump in office. Jfl if you think feminism will last in the next 5-10 years with all these blackpills being dropped everywhere and a shift in political direction.
Our society is being shifted to the left faster than you can say censorship. Donald Trump, having identical beliefs 20 years ago, was a registered democrat and widely referred to as a liberal 20 years ago, now he is the symbol of far right evil. Just wait, in 20 more years the "conservatives" would be similar to current day liberals and the democrats in that time period would be campaigning for bestiality acceptance (women only) and literally saying its racist to not let other men fuck your wife.

The far right parties getting 10% of the vote compared to 2% a few decades ago, with everyone else saying they won't work with them now, is not a sign of political correctness facing death.
 
Feminism will die with the islamification of the west
 
Our society is being shifted to the left faster than you can say censorship. Donald Trump, having identical beliefs 20 years ago, was a registered democrat and widely referred to as a liberal 20 years ago, now he is the symbol of far right evil. Just wait, in 20 more years the "conservatives" would be similar to current day liberals and the democrats in that time period would be campaigning for bestiality acceptance (women only) and literally saying its racist to not let other men fuck your wife.

The far right parties getting 10% of the vote compared to 2% a few decades ago, with everyone else saying they won't work with them now, is not a sign of political correctness facing death.
Very high iq. I too have noticed how the definition of conservatism gets ever more pushed to the left.
Feminism will die with the islamification of the west
Not even certain. Feminism is rapidly progressing in the Muslim world
 
Donald Trump, having identical beliefs 20 years ago, was a registered democrat and widely referred to as a liberal 20 years ago, now he is the symbol of far right evil. Just wait, in 20 more years the "conservatives" would be similar to current day liberals and the democrats in that time period would be campaigning for bestiality acceptance (women only) and literally saying its racist to not let other men fuck your wife.
I don't know about this, they're already talking about making abortion illegal so that would be a step back according to them. I think there are different variables at play than 20 years ago because people have information from the internet and social media.
 
feminism has came and gone through history, also, so has patriarchy



These things go through cycles, feminism leads to the collapse, which out of those ashes we get a "restart." Likely it will end up a hard patriarchy as opposed to a soft patriarchy (hard patriarchies are oppressive to everyone except giga-chads, and only until someone more giga-chad comes along). Considering Muslims will be the majority in most western nations, I could see the "restart" being some extreme form of sharia law or some shit. Which will mean there will still be incels.
 
This is the first time since the dawn of the civilized world where patriarchy has not been the prevalent system. As others have mentioned, civilization and unrestricted female sexuality cannot, or at least, have not, co-existed together, we are entering uncharted territory. None of us can say where the hell this is going. It's not impossible to go back to patriarchy.. society could very well collapse soon enough, either through civilian driven change or some large scale disaster like a nuclear war, which would lead to men rising up and taking power once more from the ashes, as the cycle begins anew.
 
I prefer Natural way of life. Woman must know her place, just like Man. Everyone must know, where his or her place is. Natural role of a Woman is to serve the Man and create Family. Natural role of a Man is to protect the Women (not only his own one) and to protect the Families and the Tribe.

In modern times, both Men and Women have forgotten their natural roles, given us by Nature. It shows, that Humanity is on the brink of collapse.
 
Which will mean there will still be incels.
At least we'll have a fighting chance unlike now. You'd have to be a real fuck up in a patriarchy to be an incel.
 
Natural role of a Man is to protect the Women (not only his own one)
Hell no, a man only takes care of his own wife and family, fuck that whiteknighting shit for random bitches.
 
At least we'll have a fighting chance unlike now. You'd have to be a real fuck up in a patriarchy to be an incel.

Dude with all due respect you don't know what you are talking about, not all patriarchies are good, there are hard patriarchies and there are soft patriarchies, hard patriarchies are no more pro-male than feminism,



Hard patriarchies leads to harems, which leads to more inceldom, look at the Muslim world. It's only good for the most super alpha guy out there, for every other man he'll have it as bad or worse than the women do. Only soft patriarchies are good for incels or average men.
 
feminism has came and gone through history, also, so has patriarchy
This is false. Patriarchy has always dominated in recorded history, as @Gremlincel wrote.

The fact that it is dying since the 60s suggests that something deeper than cultural evolution is afoot - perhaps the first stepping stones of a radical alteration of man by technology. There is a before and an after the contraceptive Pill.
 
Hard patriarchies leads to harems, which leads to more inceldom, look at the Muslim world. It's only good for the most super alpha guy out there, for every other man he'll have it as bad or worse than the women do. Only soft patriarchies are good for incels or average men.
Obviously we won't have a hard patriarchy because we're not animals anymore and have become civilized.
 
Hell no, a man only takes care of his own wife and family, fuck that whiteknighting shit for random bitches.
I was talking in the case of a Natural society, not in the present conditions. Nature is of Corporatist, organic structure. What is Corporatism? Natural, Organic Law, created by Nature or by God, if it exist. Marxism is nothing more than a Materialism, an anti-thesis for Corporatism.
 
The fact that is dying now suggests that something deeper than cultural evolution is at foot - perhaps the first stepping stones of a radical alteration of man by technology. There is a before and an after the contraceptive Pill.
There will also be a before and after of male contraception pills, sexbots, and artificial wombs. Femoid's smv will be screwed after those things, lots of men being blackpilled and moving to SEA won't help them either.
 
Need to go to Tokyo before the Zionists ruin it.

Once something is gone it's lost forever.

I have a premonition the 2020 Tokyo Olympics will mark the turning point of that country.

Thread incoming. Standby.

View attachment 50289
Japan died when they surrendered. From banzai to hentai.
 
High IQ discussion.

I'll be honest and say I don't know what really will happen. I hope though that the situation becomes unsustainable and patriarchy kinda HAS to return as an emergency measure. But there are just too many entirely new factors at play; technology, contraception, globalization, nuclear weapons, etc.

One thing I can see coming in a not so distant future is bachelor taxes, since men are dropping more and more from marriage (with old used-up sluts who are not qualified to be good wives, i.e. modern western women at the age they want to settle down) and birthrates are falling through the west.
 
I am ready to bet 100,000 USD with you that you will die and be cremated / interred before western women begin to lose some of their rights. I actually have the money, and I mean it.
Hold on there Rothschild
 
I hope though that the situation becomes unsustainable and patriarchy kinda HAS to return as an emergency measure.
Unsustainable for whom? Demographically you mean?
 
I don't know about this, they're already talking about making abortion illegal so that would be a step back according to them. I think there are different variables at play than 20 years ago because people have information from the internet and social media.
That’s not gonna happen. Trump doesn’t give a shit about abortion and he’s certainly not our saviour who will bring America back into the right. It’s over for moderates and conservatives alike, the dems have already won through their indoctrination of the youth via social shaming, censorship, and mass media propaganda
 
Fertility rate of white people will keep falling down even lower and lower, and in the end Asians and Africans will conquer Europe and North America and enslave whites
Multi-culturalism is not about mutual respect, but about failed idea of mixed cultures, Nations, ethnicities, in one society. You speak about Asians, they are different than Africans, but it is their own culture and mentality, which is different. I do not support multi-racial, multi-cultural marriages, I think, they create a lot of problems. The fact, that Asian women marry White men is specific, mostly because Asian women consider Asian men as "inferior". Just like White women, nowadays prefer Arabs and Blacks, which tend to be "more masculine". For me, it is complete nonsense, because it is the Culture and system we live in, which makes this differences.

If you speak about Islam, I want to remind you, that the biggest Muslim country in the world lies in Asia, it is Indonesia. Malaysia is also Muslim. And Asian Muslims are not the same as Middle Eastern ones. So, Religion has nothing to do, but Culture. Religion is only an part of one Culture. Race, Nationality, Ethnicity are also part of the Culture.

And it is Marxism, Liberalism too, which wants to create multi-cultural/multi-ethnic/multi-national society, where all these differencies are obsolete. Culture matters just like physical appearance. All these differencies between the people, build the Diversity. Not Marxist/Liberal "diversity". I stand for the Diversity, that's why I am against migrations (not only immigration).
 
to my mind patriarchy is the natural mode of being. Absent of heavy societal pressures, the state of man will always revert back to patriarchy. It's everything else that is the unnatural.
 
Unsustainable for whom? Demographically you mean?
Maybe when the welfare states begin to collapse through the west the typical lifestyle of sluts and single moms, as well as the consequences of women in politics (refugees, etc), all become unsustainable, maybe huge riots and even civil wars take place.
 
That’s not gonna happen. Trump doesn’t give a shit about abortion and he’s certainly not our saviour who will bring America back into the right. It’s over for moderates and conservatives alike, the dems have already won through their indoctrination of the youth via social shaming, censorship, and mass media propaganda
Trump always struck me as the embodiment of liberalism, antiracism and progressivism... The support he received from far right circles only proves how much these circles have been relentlessly broken and humiliated since 1945. They'll now lick the hand of anyone who gives them a sugar
 
Trump doesn’t give a shit about abortion and he’s certainly not our saviour who will bring America back into the right.
I don't think he's good either, but what happened with him being elected is it gave people hope that we can defeat the liberal cucks in power.
the dems have already won through their indoctrination of the youth via social shaming, censorship, and mass media propaganda
They wish. They have no control over the internet and it has become widely known the mainstream is fake news.
 
The support he received from far right circles only proves how much these circles have been relentlessly broken and humiliated since 1945. They'll now lick the hand of anyone who gives them a sugar
Do you mean the people or the parties themselves
 

Similar threads

InsidiousKoala
Replies
46
Views
637
Runt171
Runt171
daydreamER
Replies
30
Views
2K
TOP_5_KANGA
TOP_5_KANGA
M
Replies
8
Views
730
erenyeager
erenyeager
SandNiggerKANG
Replies
13
Views
1K
Friezacel
Friezacel

Users who are viewing this thread

shape1
shape2
shape3
shape4
shape5
shape6
Back
Top