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Why rape is NEVER a man's fault (philosophycels gtfih)

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If you're a Redditor, you can not justify the claim that rape is immoral for numerous reasons.

Redditors are naturalists, hence they can not resolve the following problems:

1. There is no objective morality for multiple reasons.

A. Lack of epistemic justification. They can not resolve the is-ought problem. You don't get an ought from an is. Even if rape is very painful and psychologically traumatizing, why ought I not rape you? It does not follow. It's just an assertion.

B. Lack of ontological status. What binds morality to matter? Is there any morality outside our minds in an external world, or is that just an abstraction? Unless morality is woven into an external world somehow, you wind up with relativism, because to assert otherwise would be a reification fallacy. Morality becomes contingent. My moral inclinations are that I ought rape women. Who are you to tell me otherwise?


2. Naturalism leads to determinism, making libertarian free will impossible.

According to naturalists, everything is just matter being forced to move according to the laws of physics. "We" are nothing but matter being forced to move. Our brains are nothing but matter being forced to move in a way that produces all thoughts and actions.

Hence, how can it be "our" fault that we rape women? We can't choose otherwise. The laws of physics force us to rape women just as they force Redditors to write retarded shit on Reddit.

Furthermore, how can a Redditor justify any knowledge claims if all of their thoughts are determined by the laws of physics? It is impossible for them to choose to believe the alternative. They are forced to think and believe a certain way. Why would their thoughts be true?


3. There is no "you" under determinism.

All of women's pain and trauma would just be sense experience forced upon unconscious matter, so there really isn't any "them" suffering. After all, where is consciousness? Matter is just being forced to move around and produce sense experience, but there's nobody to perceive it.


4. There is no identity over time.

Even if there somehow is a perceiver that is reducible to matter, matter is in constant flux, meaning that whatever is "your" subjective experience has no continuous stream. It's just momentary sensations in time. There is no rapist and there is no victim; it's just a bunch of changing arrangements of matter that could never be responsible for anything.


5. Naturalism leads to nominalism

Under nominalism, women and men don't actually exist because they're universals. Rape doesn't either because it's also a universal action. You can't bring me "men" or "women" or "rape" because they're kinds of things, and according to the Reddit paradigm, kinds of things are just abstractions. You would need something to instantiate them, such as Incel A performing Rape A to Woman A. Every "rape" would just be a new action that is not the same as any other "rape."


t;dr: In order to be philosophically consistent, Redditors must admit that a man is never to blame for rape.
 
Fascinating observation
 
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"morality isn't real" redditors when you say "nigger"
 
Bro i'm glad you're back
 
90 iq philosophy reasoning
 
New ITbait just dropped.
 
I don't think actual rapists intellectualize it. They just do it. And most of them are sex-havers to begin with. They still feel a drive to rape, even though they've had consensual sex.

This post seems like mental masturbation.
 
You haven't provided a justification to the claim that Redditors are naturalists man. Also who cares about morals, the law is what's important.
 
Mirin the effort bhai, grape is always justified
 
Most rape cases are actually false accusations against men.

Rape is not the man's fault because most likely, he did not rape.
 
You haven't provided a justification to the claim that Redditors are naturalists man. Also who cares about morals, the law is what's important.

Reddit is a Marxist echo chamber. Marxism is incompatible with anything but naturalism.
 
I don't think actual rapists intellectualize it. They just do it. And most of them are sex-havers to begin with. They still feel a drive to rape, even though they've had consensual sex.

This post seems like mental masturbation.
Most rapists rape for power and control, not sex
 
Most rapists rape for power and control, not sex

They have an erection while they're doing it, so it's definitely about sex.

This is analogous to saying BDSM is about power, not sex.

Most things are about sex.
 
They have an erection while they're doing it, so it's definitely about sex.
Maybe they get off on the feeling of power when putting a woman in submission though. So it's not strictly sex but the power that comes from a certain type of sex.
 
Rape is just a social construct
 
some of you fucks just scream fed like holy fucking shit man
 
Most rapists rape for power and control, not sex
If most rapists rape for power and control and not sex then why do people think it's impossible that there are female rapists ? Why are people so lenient with female rapists ? Why don't female rapists get punished ?
 
Another day another ITbait slop
 
If you're a Redditor, you can not justify the claim that rape is immoral for numerous reasons.

Redditors are naturalists, hence they can not resolve the following problems:

1. There is no objective morality for multiple reasons.

A. Lack of epistemic justification. They can not resolve the is-ought problem. You don't get an ought from an is. Even if rape is very painful and psychologically traumatizing, why ought I not rape you? It does not follow. It's just an assertion.

B. Lack of ontological status. What binds morality to matter? Is there any morality outside our minds in an external world, or is that just an abstraction? Unless morality is woven into an external world somehow, you wind up with relativism, because to assert otherwise would be a reification fallacy. Morality becomes contingent. My moral inclinations are that I ought rape women. Who are you to tell me otherwise?


2. Naturalism leads to determinism, making libertarian free will impossible.

According to naturalists, everything is just matter being forced to move according to the laws of physics. "We" are nothing but matter being forced to move. Our brains are nothing but matter being forced to move in a way that produces all thoughts and actions.

Hence, how can it be "our" fault that we rape women? We can't choose otherwise. The laws of physics force us to rape women just as they force Redditors to write retarded shit on Reddit.

Furthermore, how can a Redditor justify any knowledge claims if all of their thoughts are determined by the laws of physics? It is impossible for them to choose to believe the alternative. They are forced to think and believe a certain way. Why would their thoughts be true?


3. There is no "you" under determinism.

All of women's pain and trauma would just be sense experience forced upon unconscious matter, so there really isn't any "them" suffering. After all, where is consciousness? Matter is just being forced to move around and produce sense experience, but there's nobody to perceive it.


4. There is no identity over time.

Even if there somehow is a perceiver that is reducible to matter, matter is in constant flux, meaning that whatever is "your" subjective experience has no continuous stream. It's just momentary sensations in time. There is no rapist and there is no victim; it's just a bunch of changing arrangements of matter that could never be responsible for anything.


5. Naturalism leads to nominalism

Under nominalism, women and men don't actually exist because they're universals. Rape doesn't either because it's also a universal action. You can't bring me "men" or "women" or "rape" because they're kinds of things, and according to the Reddit paradigm, kinds of things are just abstractions. You would need something to instantiate them, such as Incel A performing Rape A to Woman A. Every "rape" would just be a new action that is not the same as any other "rape."


t;dr: In order to be philosophically consistent, Redditors must admit that a man is never to blame for rape.
the naturalist worldview eventually leads to loss of all distinctions and turns into undifferentiated monism, where all is just one. Distinctions such as living vs dead matter break down because they are also based on arbitrary value judgements, so there too the is/ought gap hits. Why ought I give special importance to one type of matter over another? Any justification criteria they raise we can just swat aside as question begging. Eventually they have nothing. If all is matter or nature, then what are distinctions, ontologically speaking?

If all is matter, distinctions must be material. If there is nothing making two things distinct, then they are the same, ergo there can not be two distinct things. But if there is something making them distinct, it must be real, have being in some sense, which for the naturalist means it must be material. This then creates an infinite regress where every relationship between everything must be material + be in a relationship with other relationships next to them. So between every two distinct things there would be infinite relationships, which means there can not be a relationship between the two things, the gap is never bridged. Basically a third man style regress. It is that retarded.

They can not justify any value judgments, they can not explain how basic distinctions work, or present a solution to the one-and-many issue or anything at all really. It's just a loaded tour de force of baseless insults driven by hatred of low status men and worship of women. Oh, and academics are of course not exempt from this when they approach our subject. They come in with a whole arsenal of presuppositions and value judgements and then pass of the self-referential auto-fellatio exercise they commit by interpreting our posts based on their own presupposed interpretations of the incel/blackpill phenomenon as "scientific" or "academically rigorous."

Just a reminder for anyone reading this that gets the is/ought shit, these idiots literally draw up 1/100 evil scores for people like us and then quantify how evil we are in their research. They are that fucking insane. Here is an example:

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Now for the record, I am a mentally retarded man that was held back in school 3x. I have no higher education, no job. For all intends and purposes these studied academics should intellectually mog the shit out of me, @RobertGarnicasAPedo and others that post here. Yet, in over half a decade of lurking and posting here, I have never, not once, seen a good, philosophically informed take of our forum, our posts or claims.

Never. The people that study and report on us are, for lack of a better term, philosophically so retarded they seem to lack basic awareness of biases, fallacies and issues - like the is/ought problem - that are taught to every first year philosophy student. Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" is one of the first texts students have to read for assignments. I happen to know that and I havent even read the thing.

This is also why, and I have said this many times, they can not ever win against us. They are so blind to their own biases that their own interpretation of the incel/blackpill subject proves the blackpill and incels correct because it exposes the researchers bias every single time. Our work is cut out for us. Ultimately this is an ideological conflict, nah, worse, I dont like that word ideology, it is a worldview issue. Their worldview sees our worldview as a normative deviation, so we must be corrected, not because they have valid justifications for that, but simply because we are a nuisance to them, on their terms, based on their own arbitrary definitions of right and wrong, which is ripe with pro-female, anti-male biases.
 

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