Why not become a volcel?

[BallbagMcGee]

As the title suggests, a drawback of being an incel can cause one to become hyper-obsessive over sex, tying external concepts to their intrinsic self-worth.

Which begs the question - why not live like a volcel? Regardless of whether or not you’ll ever have sex in your life, this strategy sounds like a win-win.

I have no idea what incel terminology I would use, if any, to describe myself. Perhaps a temporary/intermittent state of volcel - after a recent relationship and heart-wrenching breakup, I’ve taken the time to focus on becoming the best version of myself I can be. Notably, healthy behaviours, a sound mind, worthwhile/enjoyable pursuits, and an increasingly efficient work ethic.

All of these things are vastly more fulfilling than sex, and make me feel good about myself in ways sex could never achieve. Life becomes about going in your own personal direction, devoid of worries about what others think.

After all, sex can be many things, and not all of them healthy. Men and women alike use sex for toxic self-gratification. We’re all dumb apes who glorify sex far more than we ought to.

The worst thing that can happen is you never have sex, but end up happier than you otherwise would as an incel.

I pose this as an open question, open to rebuttal, rather than a naive line of self-help-guru questioning.

 

[Truecelcel]

stinkiedom cured

 

[Bianor]

You can’t just suddenly choose you don’t want something anymore

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

JoinedNov 28, 2023Posts1

 

[BallbagMcGee]

You can’t just suddenly choose you don’t want something anymore

That’s for sure - but placing focus on other things for self-gratification and fulfilment at the expense of potential sex is empowering.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

JoinedNov 28, 2023Posts1

Don’t hate me for being a newfag

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

Don’t hate me for being a newfag

fuck off

 

[BallbagMcGee]

fuck off

Good chat bro

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

Good chat bro

please kill yourself

 

[BallbagMcGee]

please kill yourself

Let’s change topics. What’s your favourite Nirvana song? Mine is Serve the Servants.

 

[Azaylias]

OP experiencing severe brain atrophy

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

fuck off

kys fag.

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

I get what you're saying, but it's more of a cope to be like "I'm a volcel not an incel" When really you're still an incel.

 

[Immolator]

Don’t hate me for being a newfag

this user joined less than 24 hours ago

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

kys fag.

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[BallbagMcGee]

I get what you're saying, but it's more of a cope to be like "I'm a volcel not an incel" When really you're still an incel.

Yes, it is a cope - but that’s my point. Not coping in the cynical way this word gets bandied about online, but rather a legitimate coping mechanism.

I would even go so far to say it’s more than that. What if you really, really, fucking loved music - and you just devoted as much of yourself to it as possible? Past the point where you even have time for women. There’s happiness in that self-indulgent approach to life, more so than the typical rotting away to dopamine-chasing activities we all fall privy to.

 

[Lonelyus]

Yes, it is a cope - but that’s my point. Not coping in the cynical way this word gets bandied about online, but rather a legitimate coping mechanism.

I would even go so far to say it’s more than that. What if you really, really, fucking loved music - and you just devoted as much of yourself to it as possible? Past the point where you even have time for women. There’s happiness in that.

You reek like a federal agents tuna breath

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

Yes, it is a cope - but that’s my point. Not coping in the cynical way this word gets bandied about online, but rather a legitimate coping mechanism.

I would even go so far to say it’s more than that. What if you really, really, fucking loved music - and you just devoted as much of yourself to it as possible? Past the point where you even have time for women. There’s happiness in that.

If it works for you then that's great. It doesn't for me though. I've tried it before. People have told me "you must be an incel if you're still a virgin at age 21" I respond with

"Well um actually I'm a volcel. I could've had sex before (lie), I've just been busy with school (I'm a neet)" It makes me depressed as fuck saying it outloud because I know it's fake. I feel more proud just being honest.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

You reek like a federal agents tuna breath

Feds would be looking to blend in. Bonus points for creativity.

 

[Lonelyus]

Feds would be looking to blend in. Bonus points for creativity.

Exactly what you thought would happen before we users dislike you, Fed spotted.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

If it works for you then that's great. It doesn't for me though. I've tried it before. People have told me "you must be an incel if you're still a virgin at age 21" I respond with
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"Well um actually I'm a volcel. I could've had sex before (lie), I've just been busy with school (I'm a neet)" It makes me depressed as fuck saying it outloud because I know it's fake. I feel more proud just being honest.

Well, perhaps striking a middle ground between our two ideologies. If someone called you an incel, you could quite literally reply with “Yes.”, and then get back on to what you were doing.

Easier said than done - that level of not giving a fuck is difficult to achieve. However finding a direction you want to take is paramount in it.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Just “voluntarily” abstain from a psychological need bro

It has been done throughout history. Besides, it in my mind it beats the alternative.

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

Well, perhaps striking a middle ground between our two ideologies. If someone called you an incel, you could quite literally reply with “Yes.”, and then get back on to what you were doing.

Easier said than done - that level of not giving a fuck is difficult to achieve. However finding a direction you want to take is paramount in it.

Your idea is smarter. Me admitting to being an incel gives normies ammunition to use against me. You at least hide it unlike me.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Exactly what you thought would happen before we users dislike you, Fed spotted.

No u

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Your idea is smarter. Me admitting to being an incel gives normies ammunition to use against me. You at least hide it unlike me.

Hide it, wear it as armour, whatever you prefer. It’s more about what you’re doing in your own mind. When tripping, I notice my brain works in loops. I’d wager we do this much more when sober than we realise.

 

[Raidriar3015]

Perhaps a temporary/intermittent state of volcel - after a recent relationship and heart-wrenching breakup

This is a site for people who can’t get into relationships or have sex.

Also, although the name suggests otherwise, inceldom isn’t just about sex. For many people here it’s about being rejected and mistreated in a more general sense due to our looks.

Furthermore it seems like you’re coping with your breakup by telling yourself that sex isn’t important. It is. Being a volcel might be a good choice in many cases, but relationships and sex are very important.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

This is a site for people who can’t get into relationships or have sex.

Also, although the name suggests otherwise, inceldom isn’t just about sex. For many people here it’s about being rejected and mistreated in a more general sense due to our looks.

Furthermore it seems like you’re coping with your breakup by telling yourself that sex isn’t important. It is. Being a volcel might be a good choice in many cases, but relationships and sex are very important.

Fair point. Sex and relationships are important - but so are many other things. I have come to realise I am more important than sex and relationships. I’d rather, at this stage, invest in myself like a lunatic - and have found this is the only way out of despondency.

That is not to say it is a permanent state of affairs; rather viewing my own energy as currency I possess, and only spending it on a transaction worthwhile.

 

[Lonelyus]

No u

Dnr

 

[K9Otaku]

As the title suggests, a drawback of being an incel can cause one to become hyper-obsessive over sex, tying external concepts to their intrinsic self-worth.

Which begs the question - why not live like a volcel? Regardless of whether or not you’ll ever have sex in your life, this strategy sounds like a win-win.

I have no idea what incel terminology I would use, if any, to describe myself. Perhaps a temporary/intermittent state of volcel - after a recent relationship and heart-wrenching breakup, I’ve taken the time to focus on becoming the best version of myself I can be. Notably, healthy behaviours, a sound mind, worthwhile/enjoyable pursuits, and an increasingly efficient work ethic.

All of these things are vastly more fulfilling than sex, and make me feel good about myself in ways sex could never achieve. Life becomes about going in your own personal direction, devoid of worries about what others think.

After all, sex can be many things, and not all of them healthy. Men and women alike use sex for toxic self-gratification. We’re all dumb apes who glorify sex far more than we ought to.

The worst thing that can happen is you never have sex, but end up happier than you otherwise would as an incel.

I pose this as an open question, open to rebuttal, rather than a naive line of self-help-guru questioning.

I heartily agree. Thank God for Greycels ...

One thing you might consider is WHY people are so focused on sex as if their lives depended on it (and you were obsessed about that in the past, right?)

The reason is RELIGIOUS, weird as it may sound. Female-centric idolatry existed in the past but Christianity stamped it out in the West. What happened since Christianity started seriously declining, 200 years ago, is that this female-centric religion made a come-back, in a STEALTHY manner. For more details, check out the thread linked in my sig.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

I heartily agree. Thank God for Greycels ...

One thing you might consider is WHY people are so focused on sex as if their lives depended on it (and you were obsessed about that in the past, right?)

The reason is RELIGIOUS, weird as it may sound. Female-centric idolatry existed in the past but Christianity stamped it out in the West. What happened since Christianity started seriously declining, 200 years ago, is that this female-centric religion made a come-back, in a STEALTHY manner. For more details, check out the thread linked in my sig.

Interesting point - however conspiratorial it may sound at face value. A means to what end?

No, I fortunately have not been obsessed with sex - I obsess over many other things, but sex isn’t one of them. There is probably a genetic component in there as well.

Oftentimes, an obsession over sex is a symptom, not the disease.

 

[Raidriar3015]

Fair point. Sex and relationships are important - but so are many other things. I have come to realise I am more important than sex and relationships. I’d rather, at this stage, invest in myself like a lunatic - and have found this is the only way out of despondency.

That is not to say it is a permanent state of affairs; rather viewing my own energy as currency I possess, and only spending it on a transaction worthwhile.

looksmax.org might be a better forum for you then. They talk about all the self improvement stuff like gym, money, etc.

 

[K9Otaku]

Interesting point - however conspiratorial it may sound at face value. A means to what end?

It is not a conspiracy. It is just an historical fact. No one planned this or orchestrated it deliberately. It just happened bc humans tend to repeat things that have a strong instinctual appeal (like the ISHTAR religion has)

The point of realizing that sex obsession is a religion is that it makes it easier for you to detach from it and resist the idiotic argument "It is genetic bro! You cannot live without sex bro! It is a basic need like water and food, bro!" (none of this is the case, because our current cultural sex obsession is a CULTURAL construct, not an instinctual need)

 

[blackpilledagain]

Joined: Nov 28, 2023
Posts: 12
Suppressing your sexuality is cucked. You have been in a relationship before so you're not even taking your own advice, fakecel infiltrator. You are misinformed about incels if you think all we care about is sex (we can just pay for it)

 

[BallbagMcGee]

looksmax.org might be a better forum for you then. They talk about all the self improvement stuff like gym, money, etc.

That site is fucking toxic and steeped in self-loathing. Besides, you wouldn’t research looksmaxxing on a deserted island. I simply research what I need to anyway.

I came to speak with you guys, and open a candid discussion on this topic. Also I had no idea what terminology you’d regard me as, and that was a fun sub-plot.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

It is not a conspiracy. It is just an historical fact. No one planned this or orchestrated it deliberately. It just happened bc humans tend to repeat things that have a strong instinctual appeal (like the ISHTAR religion has)

The point of realizing that sex obsession is a religion is that it makes it easier for you to detach from it and resist the idiotic argument "It is genetic bro! You cannot live without sex bro! It is a basic need like water and food, bro!" (none of this is the case, because our current cultural sex obsession is a CULTURAL construct, not an instinctual need)

Can it be both? Counterpoint: Animals are all about sex - and they don’t have religion.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Joined: Nov 28, 2023
Posts: 12
Suppressing your sexuality is cucked. You have been in a relationship before so you're not even taking your own advice, fakecel infiltrator. You are misinformed about incels if you think all we care about is sex (we can just pay for it)

Never said I was an incel, so I can’t be a fakecel. Nor am I suppressing my sexuality - I am directing my mind. Coomers are not suppressing their sexuality, and they’re still coomers.

I would say I’m uninformed, rather than misinformed. Which is why I’m here. I have come to learn the abuse and mistreatment many incels suffer is a large part of the conversation, and I sympathise while thinking of ways to healthily resolve the problems presented.

 

[Raidriar3015]

That site is fucking toxic and steeped in self-loathing.

So is this one.
It’s also worth noting that looksmax.org was created by the same 2 people as this site.

Also I had no idea what terminology you’d regard me as, and that was a fun sub-plot.

Volcel is accurate.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

So is this one.
It’s also worth noting that looksmax.org was created by the same 2 people as this site.

No way, that’s super interesting. I suppose it makes sense.

 

[SubhumanScum]

after a recent relationship and heart-wrenching breakup, I’ve taken the time to focus on becoming the best version of myself I can be.

So you're saying that you have been in a relationship, right?

 

[BallbagMcGee]

So you're saying that you have been in a relationship, right?

I have. I’m aware that may be a contentious point for some.

I am still a person capable of having conversations on relevant topics.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Genuine question for you guys - I have a friend who is not by any means an attractive guy. However, his charm is through the roof, and he’s a bit of a dog when it comes to lying, sleeping with, and ditching women. He’s slept with well over 100 women largely through his charm and rampant sex addiction.

Is he a chad? If not, what is he?

 

[PersonalityChad]

Genuine question for you guys - I have a friend who is not by any means an attractive guy. However, his charm is through the roof, and he’s a bit of a dog when it comes to lying, sleeping with, and ditching women. He’s slept with well over 100 women largely through his charm and rampant sex addiction.

Is he a chad? If not, what is he?

Oh yes i think i know him too. Is he a 5'2 balding Indian janitor by any chance?

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Oh yes i think i know him too. Is he a 5'2 balding Indian janitor by any chance?

LOL no. I’m sure this archetype exists. He does however has an accent foreign to here which certainly helps.

 

[SubhumanScum]

Genuine question for you guys - I have a friend who is not by any means an attractive guy. However, his charm is through the roof, and he’s a bit of a dog when it comes to lying, sleeping with, and ditching women. He’s slept with well over 100 women largely through his charm and rampant sex addiction.

Is he a chad? If not, what is he?

Let's pretend that friend of yours really has slept with 100 woman like you say. Were those woman attractive? How old were those woman? There is a chance that we're talking about 30 - 40 year old woman that no longer can get chad because he obviously can choose something younger. These woman may see your friend as a way prove to themselves that they've still got it, that they're still just as good as the newer model. Your friend - not accussing him of doing such a thing - might be well aware of this and may take advantage of this, reaching for the low-hanging fruits he can barely reach.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Let's pretend that friend of yours really has slept with 100 woman like you say. Were those woman attractive? How old were those woman? There is a chance that we're talking about 30 - 40 year old woman that no longer can get chad because he obviously can choose something younger. These woman may see your friend as a way prove to themselves that they've still got it, that they're still just as good as the newer model. Your friend - not accussing him of doing such a thing - might be well aware of this and may take advantage of this, reaching for the low-hanging fruits he can barely reach.

I think he’s had a garden variety, based on the women he brings to the bar table. I think he just sleeps with whoever he can - some attractive, some less so. I do see your point. Personally I just see it as two people looking to fuck, barring any lies he has told.

So he’s just a normie, then?

 

[BallbagMcGee]

People are too wanton and invidious, so much so that voluntary isolation is an improvement. Volcels know what I mean. Cut off the toxic, self-aggrandizing scum and enjoy your solitude.

Voluntary celibacy is just a part of it.

Couldn’t agree more. Well said. I’ve never actually known such peace. I feel like John Marston roaming the open plains.

 

[SubhumanScum]

I think he’s had a garden variety, based on the women he brings to the bar table. I think he just sleeps with whoever he can - some attractive, some less so. I do see your point. Personally I just see it as two people looking to fuck, barring any lies he has told.

So he’s just a normie, then?

As far as I am concerned I'd call him a normie, yes. Anyway, I am going to leave now. I have to go out and purchase some groceries and then I'll probably start the FF7 Remake I got on steam yesterday. Best of luck and I hope you get the answers you're looking for.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

As far as I am concerned I'd call him a normie, yes. Anyway, I am going to leave now. I have to go out and purchase some groceries and then I'll probably start the FF7 Remake I got on steam yesterday. Best of luck and I hope you get the answers you're looking for.

Thanks mate. Have a good evening, and all the best.

 

[BallbagMcGee]

Have you ever gone to nightclubs or other social convenes?

Many, but I don’t like most clubs. The music is often shit, and I can only pretend to enjoy it. Unless I’m absolutely cooked.

I’d rather have a beer and a conversation, or go to a concert.

 

[MillionBashStream97]

God, you are so fucking pretentious...

Notably, healthy behaviours, a sound mind, worthwhile/enjoyable pursuits, and an increasingly efficient work ethic.

All of these things are vastly more fulfilling than sex,

Go to a Redpill community, or MGTOW, moron.