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when does an incel become a fakecel according to ur definition?

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under the circumstance that he doesn’t leverage his money or status,
  • an incel is building a friendship to a foid,
  • an incel hugs a foid consensually,
  • an incel kisses a foid consensually,
  • an incel goes on date without having sex (and without planned copulation),
  • an incel gets a blowjob consensually (but doesn’t experience sexual penetration, which is the only form of conventional sex; so he only experiences sexual activity without properly losing his v-card)
did he already cross the line to fakeceldom in ur opinion or must he actually have sex in the rigorous definition to ascend? at which point would u banish him on .is if u were among the saints? and what if said foid is very ugly, or even deformed? does that change something in ur evaluation?
 
no real incel would be able to kiss a foid consensually
 
Sex is the Gate.
So naturally there, though man who can get multiple dates and is able to kiss multiple woman is attractive enough that getting laid is an inevitability.
 
if he can consistently get female friends and dates hes fakecel. us truecels never get these.... .
 
Once he takes a female's virginity.
 
Everything else makes him a cuck, but not really a fakecel
 
An incel doesn't "become" a fakecel
He was never an incel to begin with
 
An incel doesn't "become" a fakecel
He was never an incel to begin with
depends, e.g. he surgerymaxes out of subhumanity
 
A fakecel for me is just a sexhaver or a volcel who pretends to be an incel. Otherwise it's a rather useless term.
 
I mean, an incel means "involuntary celibate" but at the same time people here who have escorts are still considered incels. So it is more of like a shared experience or trauma?
So an incel are involuntary celibates + people who only got sex through escorts under this definition.
Men who were raped as kids can still be incel as it wasnt consensual and voluntary in a strict sense probably. There are many nuances to this.

under the circumstance that he doesn’t leverage his money or status,
  • an incel is building a friendship to a foid,
Nothing wrong with that. Incel ≠ hikikomori. An incel could be extroverted (but very ugly and ND) perhaps but it seems most like me are socially disfunctional
  • an incel hugs a foid consensually,
Nothing wrong as well, this can happen with female friends without implying attraction in many cultures. It is just a way to say hello but some cultures may not have this due to being more reserved.
  • an incel kisses a foid consensually,
I mean, this is still technically an incel. But in practice, 99% of members here never kissed a girl including me (excluding family of course) and would call this person a fakecel.
If you can kiss a girl than you can probably have sex at her as well so it is weird you didnt ascend.
By the way, some cultures also use kissing on the cheeks as a casual greeting even for strangers or acquaintances so this breaks down even more.
  • an incel goes on date without having sex (and without planned copulation),
Nothing wrong about going on a date, other users here have done it. No sex involved.
  • an incel gets a blowjob consensually (but doesn’t experience sexual penetration, which is the only form of conventional sex; so he only experiences sexual activity without properly losing his v-card)
I mean, at this point what is preventing you from just having sex lmao. Still technically an incel you could argue but in practice this person has already left most common lived experience of inceldom. A guy who received a blowjob could most probably get sex so you could argue he is a volcel.

Also, there is such a thing as receiving pity sex or a pity blowjob, these are consensual. It seems rare but perhaps one could argue they are still an incel if they cant get laid otherwise.
Raping or being raped doesnt remove inceldom in my view. These dont involve consent.
Escorts also dont count as they are based on money, not on who you are. Escorts would fuck anything, even if deformed, for cash
 
did he already cross the line to fakeceldom in ur opinion or must he actually have sex in the rigorous definition to ascend? at which point would u banish him on .is if u were among the saints? and what if said foid is very ugly, or even deformed? does that change something in ur evaluation?
  • an incel is building a friendship to a foid,
  • an incel hugs a foid consensually,
  • an incel kisses a foid consensually,
  • an incel goes on date without having sex (and without planned copulation),
All of these IMHO definitely don't count as ascension
an incel gets a blowjob consensually (but doesn’t experience sexual penetration, which is the only form of conventional sex; so he only experiences sexual activity without properly losing his v-card)
This is ... like a grey area. It definitely can't be done in order to preserve virginity which I think is common in some cultures? I think it's fine to leave it as grey area. Depending on the context you can define incel more restrictive and exclude it and in some other contexts you can define it more widely and include it. So I think this is just something you have to say whether to include it or not when you talk about a group of incels and if you claim an incel you should also add that you received a blowjob or that you use the definition of "not having had penetration".
 
The first one is already normalfaggot territory. What happened to this site?
 
  • an incel is building a friendship to a foid,
  • an incel hugs a foid consensually,
  • an incel kisses a foid consensually,
  • an incel goes on date without having sex (and without planned copulation),
I guess @LastGerman is technically an incel under these conditions.
 
I guess @LastGerman is technically an incel under these conditions.
@LastGerman is an extremely attractive man who goes on sporadic dates on Tinder but it doesn't matter since he has a small penis thus he's incel
 
When he is able to get consensual sex and relationships with looks matched foids.

I don't believe that incels should be dating down.

If you believe we should, then you are either a foid / infiltrator or an idiot.

Why should you date down just because foids don't want to date their looksmatch?

You are giving foids unnecessary power if you are doing this.

And you cannot even be considered picky if you want a looks matched foid, and neither are you if you want her to have a normal / healthy weight.
 
Sex is the Gate.
So naturally there, though man who can get multiple dates and is able to kiss multiple woman is attractive enough that getting laid is an inevitability.

i would say just kissing a single foid who willingly kisses back is enough. makes you a failed normie if you don't get pussy from her
 
If he isn't a virgin or has foid friends, he's a fakecel in my books
 
The Moment a Female has obvious romantic interests in him
 
@LastGerman is an extremely attractive man who goes on sporadic dates on Tinder but it doesn't matter since he has a small penis thus he's incel
The only truecel trait.
 
If he's above 6 foot, unless ur sub3 itl be extremely easy to get foids
 
I guess @LastGerman is technically an incel under these conditions.

@LastGerman is an extremely attractive man who goes on sporadic dates on Tinder but it doesn't matter since he has a small penis thus he's incel

The only truecel trait.

I have never been on a date. On the other hand, there is a user on here who managed to meet up with 3 different females solely because he has a big penis.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
 
I have never been on a date. On the other hand, there is a user on here who managed to meet up with 3 different females solely because he has a big penis.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
:cryfeels:
 
I have never been on a date. On the other hand, there is a user on here who managed to meet up with 3 different females solely because he has a big penis.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
who is the user?
 
I have never been on a date. On the other hand, there is a user on here who managed to meet up with 3 different females solely because he has a big penis.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
Me neither. Nowadays I don't even care anymore.
 
I have never been on a date. On the other hand, there is a user on here who managed to meet up with 3 different females solely because he has a big penis.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
Buddy, you're a literal troll who had phone sex with an actual chad. You're a homosexual, not an incel.
 
under the circumstance that he doesn’t leverage his money or status,
  • an incel is building a friendship to a foid,
  • an incel hugs a foid consensually,
  • an incel kisses a foid consensually,
  • an incel goes on date without having sex (and without planned copulation),
  • an incel gets a blowjob consensually (but doesn’t experience sexual penetration, which is the only form of conventional sex; so he only experiences sexual activity without properly losing his v-card)
did he already cross the line to fakeceldom in ur opinion or must he actually have sex in the rigorous definition to ascend? at which point would u banish him on .is if u were among the saints? and what if said foid is very ugly, or even deformed? does that change something in ur evaluation?
the first genuine ioi you get from a foid you become a fakecel
 
Buddy, you're a literal troll who had phone sex with an actual chad. You're a homosexual, not an incel.

First you said I would on go "sporadic Tinder dates". Then you call me a "troll who had phone sex with an actual Chad". It just never ends.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
 
Me neither. Nowadays I don't even care anymore.
Trying when the outcome can be predicted or is even obvious is stupid .

We simply cant be gaslighted anymore or be bothered to be gaslighted .
 
1 baby momma is fine 2 is pushing it 3 is fakecel
 
I don't believe that incels should be dating down.
That IMHO doesn't make any sense. Incels have the properties that they don't have options, and even a narcissistic Chad could think that everyone except a super-model would be "dating down" and thus be an Incel according to your definition
 
under the circumstance that he doesn’t leverage his money or status,
Money/Status are copes, sure a foid may come along because of these, but it's ONLY for these and not for "you".

an incel is building a friendship to a foid,
Many non-blackpilled incels are in this situation, but if you understand blackpill you wouldn't be friends with a foid. Either way gives normie vibes.
  • an incel hugs a foid consensually,
  • an incel kisses a foid consensually,
  • an incel goes on date without having sex (and without planned copulation),
  • an incel gets a blowjob consensually (but doesn’t experience sexual penetration, which is the only form of conventional sex; so he only experiences sexual activity without properly losing his v-card)
If you can get the above from foids, I'm sure you could push for more and move out of incel category (assuming the person was even incel to begin with since I can't imagine achieving any of these)...
 
Being a male virgin after 20, trying to have social and sexual/love life and being rejected/marginalized multiple times in the most cruel way, its an incel certified experience. Any other circunstances are, at much, mentalcels.
 
That IMHO doesn't make any sense. Incels have the properties that they don't have options, and even a narcissistic Chad could think that everyone except a super-model would be "dating down" and thus be an Incel according to your definition
Just give in to gynoc theory. Ok, cuck.
 
If youre not a ghost to women i would say you are pushing fakecel line
 
no real incel would be able to kiss a foid consensually
:feelspuke:

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an incel hugs a foid consensually,
This is the point where I would start majorly suspecting that the person is a fakecel. I mean, it's not IMPOSSIBLE, but it's so incredibly unlikely that you could get this to happen in any way that wasn't a half-hearted grab that technically classifies as a 'hug.' No woman would look at an incel and be excited to touch him in any manner.
 
You are already a fakecel if you are able to make foid friends
 

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