@your personality : another example.
Never read Ayn Rand, but I currently read a book by Napoleon Hill. What is bullshit about it? You cant deny that life has hierarchy structures about looks, money, social success etc, right? The only people who deny or fight these are christians and left wingers.
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Imo the problem that conclusion leads to is that every man that falls short of chad looks and genetics then has a rough time in life, with the amount of suffering inversely related to their SMV. That's the current predicament facing incels and it's not a good one specifically because there is no foolproof way of looksmaxxing for every incel (for example: no gym for your race, no diet or hygiene for your eye area)
Imo he brings up some interesting points though. The purpose of forums like these is to discuss such interesting prospects. Fascinated to where this line of thinking may lead even if I don't necessary agree with all of it ngl
The idea of the alt-right being incels is very much rooted imo in how negative moral characteristics are ascribed to men with incel looks and not enough SMV to physically attract women and the idea that chads aren't as capable of being morally rotten as uglier looking guys. It's like the woke liberal version of chad worship.
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If you keep going like this, you are going to end up a washed up wreck like Nietzche did. When you are in a hole, stop digging.
The point is not about wanting to be weak. It is about admitting your weakness and stopping to delude yourself about imaginary super-human feats.
I knew it.
Ayn Rand is Nietzche for Dummies and Napoleon Hill is Ayn Rand for Dummies squared.
Nazzis were female worshippers, they were celebrating white females, 14yo boys were sent to defend Berlin while grown women hid in basements. They were the original cuck right wing copers.
Prove it
But ugly people will always exist, certain disabledcels will eventually get disguard but it was never a nazi policy to get rid of ugly people, its an impossible ideal, in reality they believed in strong family (so no cock carouselling) and solidarity in there communities so in reality we would have a far far greater chance of ascending. At no point would a society that advanced have ever thought that scrubbing out ugly people as being possible
Point out to one working gas chamber that wasn't reconstructed after the war.
There is nothing to even argue about in this silly Jew thread. Germans back then did not practice hypergamy and it was uncommon for a "chad" to have a female harem.
The reason why I wouldn't be an incel if Germany won is that women would marry young to one man and lose virginity to him. Considering there is an equal number of men and women I would marry at a slightly later date to a slightly older unmarried vigin female.
Now try to debunk this or shut up
Because women suck at warfare? How is that cucked? You gain nothing from having your females slaughtered.
Why should I end up like Nietzsche? Fascism (My family, friends and comrades, pagan religion and moral compass) are what keeps me going and improving in my life. Its one of the few things that inspires me to become more than just the genetic trashcan that I currently am, even if its hard.
Well that is the reason why I love Fascism. Its not self deluding bullshit that tells you everyone is equal. I know that I wouldn't be a SS poster boy in the third Reich but that doesn't mean you can't be a warrior, adventurer, scholar or just a supportive member of an order that builds a new, strong and beautful society. I may won't have children myself, but I can still adopt a lonely child or be there for my family members that have kids. Or be a rememberworthy member of my tribe without founding a family.
So in the end your only point is that you're angry at nazis for trying to make the world better?
Tl dr
Its better to be incel in a peaceful country than being incel AND robbed by niggers every week
Its better to be incel in a peaceful country than being incel AND robbed by niggers every week
On a forum? How can I?
You are confusing Nazism with Christianity
Okay so from now on I consider you a Jew.
Extremely high IQ thread
Jfl @Ecstasy being a self proclaimed Nazi Chaworshipper
What a FAG
Jfl @Ecstasy being a self proclaimed Nazi Chaworshipper
What a FAG
@your personality, See with what kind of garbage we have to deal with below. Do you have a better idea than some kind of neo-Christianity to deal with it?
Yet another example below. A guy who believes in "debunking"
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Tell me what you will accept as proof of my Japaneseness
Yet another example below. A guy who believes in "debunking"
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Yet another example below. A guy who believes in "debunking"
Yes a guy who just owned you. Ps you argue like a Jew. When you lose you mock the messenger or play dumb.
Would you rather be chad or incel?Extremely high IQ thread
Jfl @Ecstasy being a self proclaimed Nazi Chaworshipper
What a FAG
Hey, nordic-cocksucker, how do you debunk the "debunkers" of the gas chambers? What will you accept as valid proof of the existence of the gas chambers? What sources do you consider reliable?
Don't change the subject. Tell me how the "nazis" supported loose sex outside of marriage which allows chads to have harems?
I am not changing the subject, blockhead. I am asking you what you would accept as valid evidence of the gas-chambers? If you want me to "debunk" something, you have to tell me what rules I am supposed to follow. If I start providing evidence and each time, you reply "not valid because <insert reason here>", there is no point in trying. Will you accept former Soviet Union archives? declassified US Army documents? What am I allowed to use as evidence?
Low IQ question tbh
You can worship all the best things in the world and not get accepted by them
Sad shit, I am friends with chads and enjoy their advice and company. Maybe you need more manliness to impress them, I guess Fascism can help to turn sissies into men. But you keep rejecting it.
The fall will be hard when you realize that you have been used by them like Chad tribal chiefs use their own "rubbish men"
lit doesn’t turn anything but the guy who imposes it rich and powerful
you can go off and suck all the blonde blue eyed dick you want
but at the end of the day they don’t care about you
The Nasi model was weak! they lost so miserably they had their country ripped in 2
The Nazi model was so strong that the swastika is still the most feared symbol of this rotten decaying shit world. Nothing strikes more fear and rage into the heart of the bugman than the name Adolf Hitler and his Nazis.
Why used? I enjoy the time with my comrades. On Hitlers birtday in 3 weeks we plan to hike up a mountain in Austria. Without a group and a purpose I would rot alone.
Good luck
Nazis have become a meme tbh with their "ITZ DA JUICE" blaming everything on the Jews and acting like they all got it figured out which is just pathetic and I kinda want to help them but they always trash talk on me for denying their "Truth" so it leaves me no choice but to just ignore them for the most part.
Try me bro. I rarely met a nazi that actually believes jews are the fault of everything. The thing is that jews represent everyting that is wrong from a right wing perspective. They are a people without honorable warrior culture, basically the soboy of the peoples. They are quiet smart, look at their nobel price winners and the books jews write. Yet everything they promote, be it LGBT rights, anti-racism or parliamentary democracy, all of that weakens a people and domesticates them. This opens the door for what is always refererred to as "degeneracy".
In the end you can't deny that jews promote unhealthy ideas, you can only deny that they don't have as much power as some conspiracy nuts tell.
I don't suggest you to become a nazi but to find something that is worth fighting and dying for and to enjoy every second of the struggle. At least thats what Commander Rockwell of the American Nazi Party advised me and for an incel those were helpful words
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Another race war thread that will get to 5 pages with the same 3-4 people going back and forth.
This forum is a hivemind crab bucket of right wing NPCs, all of you are EXTREMELY predictable.
Everything you say, how you act and behave is so easy to predict, anyone can figure it out if they've been a part of blackpill culture for such a long time, someone like me.
Regurgitating the same bullshit everytime, it's starting to bore me out now not gonna lie.
No wonder @foidologist and others requested bans.
This forum is a hivemind crab bucket of right wing NPCs, all of you are EXTREMELY predictable.
Everything you say, how you act and behave is so easy to predict, anyone can figure it out if they've been a part of blackpill culture for such a long time, someone like me.
Regurgitating the same bullshit everytime, it's starting to bore me out now not gonna lie.
No wonder @foidologist and others requested bans.
Did you read the OP?
My post was not aimed at you or your post. I didn't even read it. I saw Nazi something, 2-3 same retards fighting like they always do and scrolled down to see it's 2 pages already, like I expected. Nothing new to see here.
Anyways, bump.
Please try to read it. I know it is a bit long but you might like it.
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This looks interesting. I'll read it for sure.Please try to read it. I know it is a bit long but you might like it.
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Any master race rhetoric is bluepilled. They just keep spouting the same bs arguments "muh ancestors" and "muh superior race" ad infinitum. I'm into fascism and I do think that Nazi Germany was based to a certain extent. But the race stuff is just one big cope -- it's the basis for all the BLM shit we have going on today. It's set this SJW/"woke" shit in motion. Moreover, almost all of these sf-cels are mixed, and have some non European ancestry.
Also, I like your posts -- they're high IQ (though you don't usually respond to my comments for whatever reason).
Also, I like your posts -- they're high IQ (though you don't usually respond to my comments for whatever reason).
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Yeah
Italian Fascism?
I think I remember responding once or twice.
When I don't, it is usually bc someone has already said something similar before and I responded to it ...
More like eco-fascism with an environmental aspect. A good example of this is the Unabomber.
But I also agree with some of Mosley's ideas (minus the race stuff).
I am Catholic and I am tired of reading on the internet that Christians are cucks, of course the current Christianity, especially the Protestant, is absurd supporting the lgtb but Catholicism is something else and as the OP says, the chads and stacies were dominated, whereas now and even in Islam, not all men get a woman because if you ask for her hand the woman can reject you.
First of all, I understand why you are attracted to Fascism. My own inspiration is the book discussed in this thread:
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He rejects Truth, which is the basis of Communism and SJW/Wokeness, and shows why it does not hold water philosophically, using the works of Ludwig Wittgenstein, Immanuel Kant and George Berkeley.
He then shows that Trust, on the other hand, is the basis of everything in human cooperation. Truth and knowledge are manipulative pipe-dreams while Trust is what allows us to divide work among ourselves and thus achieve everything we have today, including science.
Fascism, as a form of anti-Communism, is clearly on the side of Trust. For example SS daggers bore the inscription "Meine Ehre ist mein Treue" (usually translated "my honor is my fidelity" or "my honor is my trustworthiness")
On that count, Fascism obviously has something going for it and this is why so many people were attracted to it.
However, each form of fascism mixes bullshit that sometimes borders on the ridiculous to that initially valuable insight.
Italian Fascism
Mussolini was a giga-Chad (by the standards of his place and era). Clara Petacci was his main Stacy (he had others). After lunch, he often retired to the personal quarters of his palace to fuck Petacci. He was fond of saying that a little action in the afternoon was "good for the Duce". In other words, it got his alpha-male juices flowing. Mussolini was a ridiculous example of Chad-tyranny. He obviously had zero respect for Incels ... But he was the inventor of Fascism. One should remember that.
Nazism
Chad-Worship, racial bullshit. No need to waste time on that.
Oswald Mosley.
I found this short discourse by him online. This is also ridiculously wrong. Nietzche cannot be reconciled with Christianity. This idea is the dumbest ever. Nietzche was rabidly anti-Christian and for good reason. Like Mussolini, Nietzche was an uber-Chad worshiper, while Christianity is the most radically anti-Chad movement in human history. According to the Bible, Chad is Satan (the king of this world) and Stacy is 'the Whore of Babylon" of Revelation "With whom the kings of the earth [i.e. Chads] have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication [i.e. Chad/Stacy worship]." This is the clearest condemnation of the Chad/Stacy tyranny ever written up to that point. If Mosley can mix Christ with Nietzche, it means he understands neither.
Eco Fascism
As I said in the OP, the closer we move back to the "state of Nature", the closer we move to the original Chad/Stacy arrangement, i.e. the animal alpha-male instinct. In Paleolithic tribal societies there was a deficit of women (bc the Chad-chief took several for himself) That automatically created Incels, which were called "rubbish men". It is only in highly evolved societies like Puritan New England that that kind of original inceldom was fully overcome. Puritanism is the origin of capitalism and of the modern world, even if the said modern world turned its back on the kind of full-on Christianity the Puritans stood for. Turning the clock back to a "closer to nature" state only means closer to the original Chad/Stacy/Rubbish Men nightmare.
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I hope these few remarks will interest you. I do not make them in a spirit of contention at all.
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Nazis were cringe and stupid. Many of incels are alt right but alt right itself is funded by same corporations who also push foids into being materialistic low intellectual whores. Being alt right is basically admitting to RUling class and Ruling class is Chad.
and yes Christianity was important to establish a civilized society but sometimes it has its flaws too. Some denominations of Christianity push this chad worship, mostly protestant. Early Christianity was based though
Nazis were cringe and stupid. Many of incels are alt right but alt right itself is funded by same corporations who also push foids into being materialistic low intellectual whores. Being alt right is basically admitting to RUling class and Ruling class is Chad.
and yes Christianity was important to establish a civilized society but sometimes it has its flaws too. Some denominations of Christianity push this chad worship, mostly protestant. Early Christianity was based though
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In order to be a Christian today, you have to be a giga-Moron or a giga-Hypocrite. As a Catholic, you are probably both.
Sorry, I say that without hatred or scorn. It is just an honest assessment.
Catholics stopped being Christians in the 16th century. Instead they worship Mary, the Queen of Heaven, which is Stacy in disguise. Protestants are the ones who finally eradicated inceldom completely in the 17th century. Catholicism had tolerated Chad-kings for millennia and still does.
If you want to salvage what is valuable in your Catholic heritage, you have to:
- Stop believing in the Sky Chad. That idea was good, but it no longer works. That's the way it is
- Understand that Catholics were on the wrong side of the wars of religions and that the Protestants were the real Christians (of course Protestantism went to shit after WWII but that is another story)
- Accept 2. fully.
- Join the Order of the Blackpill Monkcels and help us revive the spirit of the Desert Fathers, Benedict of Nursia, Francis of Asisi, etc. Those guys were based, no doubt about that.
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Yes
YupNazi soldiers on the eastern front literally sacrificed their own lives so that Lebensborn chads and stacies could fuck like rabbits
That Lebensborn crap is very vividly shown for what it is in the TV series "The Man in the High Castle" (Season 2, Episodes 5 and 6)
Well, my attraction fascism stems from the fact the humans need to be part of something larger than them. To quote Jonathan Haidt "We humans have a dual nature—we are selfish primates who long to be a part of something larger and nobler than ourselves."
Over the years ever since the dawn of humanity, humans have lived in tribes and in close proximity. This is the first time in history that humans are completely individualistic (with the some obvious exceptions, but let's confine ourselves to Western societies because those are the ones I'm most familiar with). And just like Nietszchian nihilism was the response to the metaphorical death of Christianity, I believe that the attraction to alternative politics (fascism or otherwise) is the natural response to the status quo. Sure, some people might not be as radical as me and jump to the opposite side of the spectrum of neo-liberal Marxism, but the rejection of postmodernist Marxist ideas (I know that many hold to the notion that postmodernism is the rejection of modern ideas like Marxism, but that's a different discussion, and I do believe that these 2 can coexist) is almost always correlated with right leaning movements. Anyway, back to fascism. Fascism provides an elegant system that gives us a sense of purpose in an otherwise meaningless world. Furthermore, as incel who's ignored by the left and exploited by the right, you find yourself resenting both sides. But what are the alternatives? Almost every political ideology is either left or right leaning, except for fascism.
I'd rather stay mute on that for now as I haven't read the book, but I'll get back to you on that later.
I disagree. Mussolini was not a chad by any means. The sole reason he was able to attain women is his status. Same goes for Hitler. Ironically, Mussolini started out as a socialist and was a problematic kid. I wouldn't go as far as to as that he had 0 respect for incels. He simply respected the nation more than anything else, and as you know actual eugenics is not necessarily the same as PSL eugenics - i.e. only individuals that are useful to the state are good. You also have to factor in the time line he lived in. Back then status and the articulation were considered desirable traits (and still are to a certain extent, albeit they get trumped by looks these days).
Yeah, there's really no need to get into that.
Although Nietzsche's work was fundamentally anti-Christian -- he said that Christian relabelled the unattainable things coveted the most and made them into virtues (e.g. celibacy became purity) -- I think they can be brought together. Basically was saying that Christians were incels who created the cope to end all copes. However, JP is currently trying to come up with a version of Christianity that's compatible with Nietzschian nihilism. I'm not fully sold on it, but it's still interesting.
As for the Mosley speech, I've seen that one. But you also gotta remember that he became obsessed with the race stuff later, and fell down the antisemitic rabbit hole (I'm not denying that the Jews are responsible for many issues that we have today, but irrationally hating them is not effective and will only exacerbate the issue). So yeah, the dude definitely had some nutty ideas.
And although Mosley might have misunderstood Nietzsche's work -- which are up to interpretation, or as Nietzsche himself would say "there are no facts, just interpretations" -- he most certainly didn't misunderstand fascism as he the father of it. I think he's falling into the same trap as JP; he's taking things metaphorically. I don't know, I might be wrong about it, I'll have to look more into this if I want to respond properly.
No. The hunter-gatherer dynamic will benefit incels IMO. It is true that some of us might be killed by the alpha of the tribe, which in itself not as bad as being subjected to years of bitter, indissoluble loneliness, but also incels might get Chad's sloppy seconds and even have regular intercourse since individualism will be cease be a thing, and people will always be in the vicinity of each other somewhere in the woods, far far away from this depraved system. Our current society is very much like the one described in Brave New World by Huxley - dystopian, nihilistic, individualistic and an ignorant one controlled by the elites. What I want to have is a society like the one on the "Savage" reservation where John has spent most of his life.
Moreover, the close proximity would most definitely solve our loneliness problem. I won't delve into this here because it'll make the comment unnecessarily long, and I think I've rambled enough. But here are two short short videos that explains it pretty well why both "Christianity" (i.e. in that case any type of spirituality, even an atheistic one like Sam Harris') and the hunter-gatherer dynamic will at the very least alleviate the incel's suffering:
1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAhK-OdUphQ&ab_channel=NotesfromInceldom
2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Ym95LsIsc&ab_channel=NotesfromInceldom
Did you read what I wrote about "Rubbish men", both in the OP and to the post you just responded to?
How is being a "Rubbish Man" in a Neolithic tribe better than being an Incel now? Honestly, I prefer being alone and playing video games to being the errand-boy and court-jester of some cave-Chad.
I did. But you're making the assumption that we will go to the same type of hunter-gatherer society where all logic and reasoning are gone. If our society would "regress" to that state, it wouldn't be the same. You cannot just burn all the knowledge we've accumulated over the years and act the like the original hunter gatherer society. I didn't say that incels will start getting sex, I said they might, which is true given the close proximity (it just increases the chances).
These "Rubbish men" are just men who are not sexually successful, but they still interact with other humans which is much more fulfilling than this lonely isolated lifestyle that goes against our nature. And as I stated above, even if you get killed, it's still better than what we're going through right now. Video games and books get repetitive and boring after a while. Humans need purpose and meaning. Without those they'll inevitably resort to nihilism. Finally, I only said it would alleviate the problem, not completely solve it. Don't you agree that belonging to a community is much more fulfilling than this nihilistic coomer lifestyle?
Think of it as a sacrifice to the "nation". Hierarchies will always exist and they solely depend on your genetics. That's life, it ain't fair. And again, it not necessarily a barbaric society; that's not what I'm advocating for. However, I can see how my previous might've given you the impression that this is what I want, but no. The ideal society I envisioned in not a barbaric one. I hope that clarifies it.
Also, you can be left alone in such a society as well, it's like you're going to be a salve to chad. But the preservation of nature should always come first. And again, human-made laws can and will exist.
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I do not think that this is correct. The book I mentioned earlier separates hierarchies into two categories:
- Those based on "Authority-S" (S for Sex) which are indeed based on the alpha-male instinct, hence genetics
- Those based on "Authority-L" (L for Language) which are based on Trust unrelated to the alpha-male instinct.
I do not see how you can move "closer to nature" without giving more leeway to our instincts. If you do, how are you going to avoid something barbaric?
If what you are thinking of something more voluntarily frugal and less overburdened with bullshit than the society we live in right now, yet not more barbaric, I think that you are not in fact thinking of being "closer to nature". What you are describing is a monastic lifestyle. I am not against that by any means. Indeed I am all for it. But we have to clarify what we are actually talking about
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I will. I'm just currently switching between here and a math lecture kek. As I said, I'll give it a read and then give you my opinion on it. Also, why cannot authority exist in a state that's not industrial? What the difference? And again, don't take the Vikings as an example. We're much more civilisied and we know more. I'm just advocating to live in small groups in the woods (and wood here is not necessarily the forest just a greener society). That's what I meant by closer to nature. Technological and industrial development are the source of our depression as they push us further away from "nature". Humans are not supposed to live like this. For all of human history humans were never so isolated as they are now. Which as you can observe is making us miserable. Furthermore, I'd say that our current civilisations are violent as well. Bombing and shooting are still a form of violence and are both manifestations of our true nature as humans. By getting rid of that stuff, you'll only minimise the collective suffering. I'm not proposing a perfect system -- a perfect system does not exist. Humans are inherently flawed. I'm just suggesting a better, more fulfilling way of living. It is by no means perfect.
It's a mixture of both. I do want to be closer to nature as in living in the wood, far from my computer, etc. but this doesn't necessarily mean going back to the caveman era. What's wrong with going back to something similar to the early 1900s? I know it's still not close to nature per se. But we can slowly work towards a more natural society by creating societies that "have more trees than bricks". Maybe going back to nature is not quite the right term here as it suggests a barbaric lifestyle, let's can call it a society that's not driven by technological and industrial development (and again I know that the society of the early 1900 was driven by those things, but you don't have to take the entire thing, just the good aspects). It's really hard to put it all on paper since it's a mixture of multiple philosophies (mainly fascism as I said) and there's many problems with it as you've seen, but I'll try to make a thread about it.
We often tend to conflate living in a greener society with a primitive lifestyle and barbaric behaviour. And yes, it is primitive compared to our current life style but it's not less fulfilling IMO. Humans evolved to live in tribes. We cannot ignore those billions of years of evolution. I'm trying to reconcile Darwinism with "modern" civilisation. To find a middle ground that's both fulfilling but not totally primitive.
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That is true. But I think you are making anther conflation.
You are assimilating a greener life with a purer life. It is true that in a pristine forest, we have a feeling of cleanliness. It smells good, there is no filth.
However, assuming that having more trees around you will make your life automatically cleaner is a mistake. It is a materialistic mistake which confuses what is outside your body with what is inside your mind. Suffering comes from mental trash. I think we all agree on that. However, the sweet smell of a forest will not clean your mind. You can use the clean forest as a metaphor for a cleaner mind but not as tool to achieve that goal.
Materialism dominates our culture which makes materialistic confusions almost inevitable. But we must strive to identify them and move past them because they hold us back. Ted Kacsinsky clearly fell into that pitfall in his manifesto.
Industry and technology are not the sources of our mental trash. That source is Hollywood, the media, the school system, the psychiatric establishment, etc. Industry and technology are just tools. They are not clean or dirty per se. A coal-fire power plant is dirty. A Nuclear power plant is cleaner. Solar panels are even cleaner but we do not have the technology yet to make them economically viable. Generally, as technology advances, it becomes cleaner. But that is not the point in any case.
The suffering we experience as Incels is in our mind, not in our body. Its source is mental pollution, not environmental pollution. The solution to our suffering is mental cleansing, not environmental cleansing. That is what Christianity was: a technology for mental cleansing. There were other technologies of the same kind, like Buddhism or Advaita Vedanta. What we need now is a new mental cleansing technology that is as effective as Christianity but is not based on the obsolete metaphors Christianity used (the sky-Chad, ...)
I think that is what you are looking for too. But I believe you would benefit by clarifying your goal and deconflating what you are reality after (mental cleansing) from the "closer to nature" idea. That idea may be useful as a metaphor but it will not lead you where you want to be just by itself.
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