Serious Why Islam is awesome

[Darth_Aurelius]

Why Islam is awesome:

The teachings of the Prophet Mohammed and the Holy words of the Quran command that women be treated as personal property (chattel) like dogs or farm animals

Women can be bartered for without their consent through their father’s, brothers, uncles or other male relatives (Quran, 4:24)

A man who is too financially destitute to afford a proper bride price (paying the male relatives for the value of the wife) may still be granted a marriageable woman if he is a devout Muslim (Hadith, 62:58)

Hell is primarily populated by women, approximately 99% of its residents are women while the other 1% comprise jews and other infidel scum (Quran, 54:464)

The legal value of a woman is precisely half of that of a man and for purposes of testifying against a man in a court of law, two women must appear, one to testify and the other to substantiate her statement (Quran 2:282)

Men are encouraged to engage in sexual relations with women whenever they (men) desire, regardless of the willingness of the woman (Quran: 2:223)

From the Last Sermon of the Prophet Muhammad: “Treat women well, for they are like domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves”

Allah Akbar, Praise be to Allah for he is great!

 

[StormlitAqua]

All this is great, but then when you die you rot in hell for not believing in the Resurrection of Christ. May I recommend traditional Christianity instead? 90% same ethics with eternal salvation all wrapped into one!

 

[Bagelcel]

All this is great, but then when you die you rot in hell for not believing in the Resurrection of Christ. May I recommend traditional Christianity instead? 90% same ethics with eternal salvation all wrapped into one!

Muslims say the exact same thing, "Believe in Islam as the one true faith or rot in hell".. + they believe that Jesus will be resurrected too.
So... what if you're wrong and they're right?

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

All this is great, but then when you die you rot in hell for not believing in the Resurrection of Christ. May I recommend traditional Christianity instead? 90% same ethics with eternal salvation all wrapped into one!

With respect brother, I cannot see how we can ever ally ourselves with traditional conservative Christianity which always has a certain reverence for women, especially young women and presumed virgins. Islam relegates women to the level of personal property, gives men complete control over her, admonishes women to serve men and please them and reinforces male supremacy. It is the absolute antithesis of feminism and we need to embrace its wise and enlightened teachings.
Furthermore, fundamentalist Christians identify strongly with the plight of conservative and zealous jews who try to justify the existence of Israel, the enslavement of the Palestinian Arabs and the corruption of western values through the propagation of jewish filth and smut. Islam provides us with a theological precedent for taking women as our own and additionally correctly identifies the jews as the enemy of morality and civilization as a whole. What's not to like?

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

Muslims say the exact same thing, "Believe in Islam as the one true faith or rot in hell".. + they believe that Jesus will be resurrected too.
So... what if you're wrong and they're right?

christians want their cake and eat it too. muslims believe that when become a teenager you are responsible for your actions and when yo udie your good deeds and your sins will be measured and depending on the ratio you will be punished or forgiven for your sins.

christians just say "believe and jesus and get to go to heaven for free!"

islam is a much more effective system for keeping people in line

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[StormlitAqua]

Muslims say the exact same thing, "Believe in Islam as the one true faith or rot in hell".. + they believe that Jesus will be resurrected too.
So... what if you're wrong and they're right?

I'll take my chances.

With respect brother, I cannot see how we can ever ally ourselves with traditional conservative Christianity which always has a certain reverence for women, especially young women and presumed virgins. Islam relegates women to the level of personal property, gives men complete control over her, admonishes women to serve men and please them and reinforces male supremacy. It is the absolute antithesis of feminism and we need to embrace its wise and enlightened teachings.
Furthermore, fundamentalist Christians identify strongly with the plight of conservative and zealous jews who try to justify the existence of Israel, the enslavement of the Palestinian Arabs and the corruption of western values through the propagation of jewish filth and smut. Islam provides us with a theological precedent for taking women as our own and additionally correctly identifies the jews as the enemy of morality and civilization as a whole. What's not to like?

I'm a Lutheran mate, and Martin Luther was the KING of Jew haters. You won't see that from a proper traditional christian society. The reason many modern Christians love jews is because conservatives made it a political issue, in the same way that liberals made global warming a political issue.

Also, in the Traditional lutheran wedding vows, the woman vows to obey the husband until death do them part. Same thing as you described. woman is made to serve and comfort man, as God made Eve to comfort Adam.

 

[theundeadburg]

yeah islam is pretty based.

 

[Bagelcel]

I think both your religions are a massive cope, but @StormlitAqua 's probably makes more sense because i'm guessing his branch of lutherian Christianity is like regular Christianity in that there isn't polygamy.

Islam allows and encourages polygamy, as well as being able to have as many female sex slaves as you desire.
What will happen as a result of that is the same thing that's happening in today's society....
A bunch of chad mohammeds will have 4 wives each and a couple sex slaves, whilst incels are left lonely and depressed all over again.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

I'll take my chances.


I'm a Lutheran mate, and Martin Luther was the KING of Jew haters. You won't see that from a proper traditional christian society. The reason many modern Christians love jews is because conservatives made it a political issue, in the same way that liberals made global warming a political issue.

Also, in the Traditional lutheran wedding vows, the woman vows to obey the husband until death do them part. Same thing as you described. woman is made to serve and comfort man, as God made Eve to comfort Adam.

Well then Lutheranism is superior to other forms of Christianity but I would say is inferior to Islam for several reasons. Islam literally considers women to be property and gives canonical precedent for the beating of wives and girlfriends if they disobey the man. Women are not necessarily won over by the affectionate love and attention of men in Islamic countries but can be bought outright from their fathers (even those girls who are not yet legally adults) thus, there would be a woman for every incel man, no matter how disgusting or decrepit he may appear to them. Finally, the punishments for women under Sharia law are far more severe then those allocated to men. Additionally and as something of a bonus, in most countries which adopt Sharia, homosexuality is punishable by death, usually public execution.

I think both your religions are a massive cope, but @StormlitAqua 's probably makes more sense because i'm guessing his branch of lutherian Christianity is like regular Christianity in that there isn't polygamy.

Islam allows and encourages polygamy, as well as being able to have as many female sex slaves as you desire.
What will happen as a result of that is the same thing that's happening in today's society....
A bunch of chad mohammeds will have 4 wives each and a couple sex slaves, whilst incels are left lonely and depressed all over again.

Not true. As noted above, the wealthy incel may purchase women from his neighbor or friend while the pious incel who can confirm his knowledge of the Quran and quote the Prophet (praise be to him) Muhammad is entitled to the love and affection of a woman. Finally, any form of infidelity to the husband is punishable by severe beatings issued by that husband and likewise death by stoning.

 

[oldcel75]

Islam is really great. We can see how well they live in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Indonesia...

 

[theundeadburg]

Islam is really great. We can see how well they live in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Indonesia...

syria, iraq and egyot are both victims of israeli and usa invasions. free syrian army itself is created by cia.

 

[AfrikanCel]

I lile the women are property shit but I like to play my degenerate vidya and shit too.

syria, iraq and egyot are both victims of israeli and usa invasions. free syrian army itself is created by cia.

שלום למסתננים יהודים זה המפקד של המוסד. אנחנו צריכים להגדיל את הניסיונות שלנו להשתמש אלה כבשים להרוס את עצמם

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

Islam is really great. We can see how well they live in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Indonesia...

You could play that same game with Christianity or Hinduism by pointing to any number of third world countries in South America for the former and the Indian subcontinent for the latter. As my comrade noted above, most Muslim countries have been unfairly targeted by western interventions or just used as geo-political fodder in the game between the super powers.

 

[oldcel75]

syria, iraq and egyot are both victims of israeli and usa invasions. free syrian army itself is created by cia.

Yes, sure, without those invasions (last war with Egypt was 45 years ago), they would be like Sweden.

You could play that same game with Christianity or Hinduism by pointing to any number of third world countries in South America for the former and the Indian subcontinent for the latter. As my comrade noted above, most Muslim countries have been unfairly targeted by western interventions or just used as geo-political fodder in the game between the super powers.

European countries also were used as a geopolitical fodder between the super powers. Like Germany. 5 years after the terrible disaster of the defeat in WW2 their economic was better than Egypt of 2018. there are reason for that, and one of them is the participation of women in the workforce.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Mohammad raped a 9 year old.
Islam is scum and a huge cope.

 

[NEETAndTidy]

If it weren't for the no drinking and radical idiots it would be pretty dope I guess.

Its whatever. I'm sure even with an arranged marriage shed cuck me with a tall 10/10 Abdul

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

Yes, sure, without those invasions (last war with Egypt was 45 years ago), they would be like Sweden.

European countries also were used as a geopolitical fodder between the super powers. Like Germany. 5 years after the terrible disaster of the defeat in WW2 their economic was better than Egypt of 2018. there are reason for that, and one of them is the participation of women in the workforce.

Yes but that point is rendered moot when you consider the long term implications of the Marshall Plan and the west's efforts to subsidize Germany industry, revitalize its economy and essentially use the BRD as a pawn in the geopolitical chess game just as the Soviets were doing with the DDR.

If it weren't for the no drinking and radical idiots it would be pretty dope I guess.

Its whatever. I'm sure even with an arranged marriage shed cuck me with a tall 10/10 Abdul

That business about not drinking is more of a general admonishment than an absolute prohibition, especially if you're fighting Jihad against the jews and infidel scum, any good Jihad warrior worth his weight in jew blood is going to get a little smashed from time to time.

 

[SOMCEL]

Yes Islam is the truth.
I’m proud to be a Muslim.

 

[StillBitter]

With respect brother, I cannot see how we can ever ally ourselves with traditional conservative Christianity which always has a certain reverence for women, especially young women and presumed virgins. Islam relegates women to the level of personal property, gives men complete control over her, admonishes women to serve men and please them and reinforces male supremacy. It is the absolute antithesis of feminism and we need to embrace its wise and enlightened teachings.
Furthermore, fundamentalist Christians identify strongly with the plight of conservative and zealous jews who try to justify the existence of Israel, the enslavement of the Palestinian Arabs and the corruption of western values through the propagation of jewish filth and smut. Islam provides us with a theological precedent for taking women as our own and additionally correctly identifies the jews as the enemy of morality and civilization as a whole. What's not to like?

This is a place for incels to hang out not for ISIS to recruit!

PS if Islam is the true religioun then why did the jews win the wars?

 

[backyardslayer]

JFL @ religiouscels.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

This is a place for incels to hang out not for ISIS to recruit!

PS if Islam is the true religioun then why did the jews win the wars?

I never endorsed the policies or activities of ISIS and I'm not advocating violence in any way. I am merely observing that our agenda as incels is extremely congruent with and symmetrical to the objectives of Islam. We would all enjoy a much higher quality of life were we to adopt Sharia law which reduces femoids to their rightful place as slaves to men and property to be done with as one likes. If you disagree with the substantive points of my argument I would be interested in hearing why.

This is a place for incels to hang out not for ISIS to recruit!

PS if Islam is the true religioun then why did the jews win the wars?

I just noticed your post-script, sorry. What wars are you talking about? The ancient wars between the Kingdom of Judah and nearly every regional or imperial power with whom it unsuccessfully tried to conquer? The jews were defeated in succession by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Romans and the Parthians. If by war you're referring to more modern military engagements, then of course the illegal state of Israel was victorious, they were financed and armed by their jew brethren in the JewSA. Even assuming the jews had achieved victory by means other then superior technology and financing ("The sinews of war are infinite money" ~Thucydides), it would prove nothing and in no way validate their illegal claim to land which belonged to the Palestinians before the UN security council absconded with it as a consolation prize for the Holocaust.

 

[StillBitter]

I would be happy if we could end female hypergamy and the 80/20 problem. But I don't want to make them slaves and I do not want to see child marage. And also muslims practice poligamy how will that not create incels.

 

[UBERCEL]

Praise be to allah

I would be happy if we could end female hypergamy and the 80/20 problem. But I don't want to make them slaves and I do not want to see child marage. And also muslims practice poligamy how will that not create incels.

There is polygamy but very few, so mostly monogamy, also child bride is a meme, the girl has to consent and her family and she has to have a mature brain to be able to decide

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

Praise be to allah

Yes praise him for He is Great and his gifts to MANkind bountiful!

 

[Rope Gang]

These verses are talking about what CHAD can and can’t do. What about us incels

 

[Bagelcel]

How i view this thread.
Bunch of sniggas coping with their sand religion.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

I would be happy if we could end female hypergamy and the 80/20 problem. But I don't want to make them slaves and I do not want to see child marage. And also muslims practice poligamy how will that not create incels.

This is a zero sum game my friend; either you take the ideology as a whole and in its entirety or not at all. We cannot afford to be selective, especially if we are going to advocate for the promulgation of Sharia law, which, in point of fact, would be our most viable political means of achieving the objectives we all want here. I'm not going to advocate for or even endorse slavery and you have to understand that much of what I say here is hyperbole and not meant to be construed literally. If you can identify an ideology or political agenda which facilitates our goals more completely and also allows us to align ourselves with a strong existing partisanship, then I'm listening.

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Bunch of sniggas coping with their sand religion.

"they always travel single file so as to conceal their true numbers" -Obi wan

These verses are talking about what CHAD can and can’t do. What about us incels

Not true, read through my posts brother and you will see how I have clarified and elucidated some of the more nuanced verse. If a man (incel) be poor or disfigured, that need not impede his obtaining a wife, so long as he is a devout and pious adherent to the word of Allah, praise be His name. When women are literally regarded as property to be bought, bartered or bargained for, I see no reason to think that they have ANY control over their bodies. Isn't that precisely why Islam is the arch-nemesis of feminism? Know your enemies, as it will help you know yourself even better.

 

[oldcel75]

Yes but that point is rendered moot when you consider the long term implications of the Marshall Plan and the west's efforts to subsidize Germany industry, revitalize its economy and essentially use the BRD as a pawn in the geopolitical chess game just as the Soviets were doing with the DDR.

Despite the Marshal plan, German society have protestantic values that make them much more efficient than an islamic society. You give a German money and you get (revived) Mercedes, Opel and Siemens, you give money to a muslim and you get ISIS.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

Despite the Marshal plan, German society have protestantic values that make them much more efficient than an islamic society. You give a German money and you get (revived) Mercedes, Opel and Siemens, you give money to a muslim and you get ISIS.

No that's not fair nor is it accurate. Germany was and still is one of the most industrialized nations in the world. It has been the center of technological innovations for generations and is ideally suited in central Europe for trade with other great powers and potent economies (France, Italy, UK, Scandinavian countries, etc.). Also, look at the extreme wealth of places like the UAE or Dubai or even Saudi Arabia where you see the Rolls Royce and Sharia law in perfect symbiosis and coexisting rightly as they should.

 

[oldcel75]

I never endorsed the policies or activities of ISIS and I'm not advocating violence in any way. I am merely observing that our agenda as incels is extremely congruent with and symmetrical to the objectives of Islam. We would all enjoy a much higher quality of life were we to adopt Sharia law which reduces femoids to their rightful place as slaves to men and property to be done with as one likes. If you disagree with the substantive points of my argument I would be interested in hearing why.

I will maybe have a woman in your bed (if you will be alive and not killed in a tribal war), but you will never see the light in her eyes like she has when she sees chad. It will be the same as escortceling or rape.

I just noticed your post-script, sorry. What wars are you talking about? The ancient wars between the Kingdom of Judah and nearly every regional or imperial power with whom it unsuccessfully tried to conquer? The jews were defeated in succession by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Romans and the Parthians. If by war you're referring to more modern military engagements, then of course the illegal state of Israel was victorious, they were financed and armed by their jew brethren in the JewSA. Even assuming the jews had achieved victory by means other then superior technology and financing ("The sinews of war are infinite money" ~Thucydides), it would prove nothing and in no way validate their illegal claim to land which belonged to the Palestinians before the UN security council absconded with it as a consolation prize for the Holocaust.

It proves that the Jewish society in Israel is much more developed than the muslim ones in the ME. Also, the American aid is about 1% of the budget and it must be spend in USA.

 

[oldcel75]

No that's not fair nor is it accurate. Germany was and still is one of the most industrialized nations in the world. It has been the center of technological innovations for generations and is ideally suited in central Europe for trade with other great powers and potent economies (France, Italy, UK, Scandinavian countries, etc.). Also, look at the extreme wealth of places like the UAE or Dubai or even Saudi Arabia where you see the Rolls Royce and Sharia law in perfect symbiosis and coexisting rightly as they should.

There are reasons for Germany to be so developed and industrialized. It called christian-protestant values of hard work and study.
UAE, Dubai and KSA won the lottery of oil. It's not because of hard work. And they indeed have Rolls Royce, a British car, not something that they invented. Really, one neighbourhood in North Tel Aviv produces more academic papers than the whole Arab world.

 

[Bagelcel]

How much is Saudi Arabia paying you to post this?

This lol, i know Muslims love to spread their religion through Taqqiya
AKA selling it as super feminist/opressed to the masses as a way to get people to become muslim, and sell it as truly blackpilled to us to try and get us to convert.
Needs to stop tbh.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

How much is Saudi Arabia paying you to post this?

With respect sir, if you look at my other posts, you will see that this is just one component of a larger ideological agenda which advances the interests of incels. As I've invited others to do, I recommend you tell me a more inspired plan of action which will enable us to achieve our objectives while cloaking ourselves in the protection of the first amendment and its accommodation of religion. We will also find many allies who will welcome us to Islam and will not denigrate us for our contempt for the degeneracy of the west and the promiscuity of western women. I am 100% serious and I hope all of you are ready to start thinking realistically as I am trying to do.

This lol, i know Muslims love to spread their religion through Taqqiya
AKA selling it as super feminist/opressed to the masses as a way to get people to become muslim, and sell it as truly blackpilled to us to try and get us to convert.
Needs to stop tbh.

Read my other posts and you will see that this is all part of a coherent ideological agenda. I think on my feet and have been doing nothing but contributing excellent and actionable ideas to this community so I suggest you stop criticizing and get on board with the program friend.

I will maybe have a woman in your bed (if you will be alive and not killed in a tribal war), but you will never see the light in her eyes like she has when she sees chad. It will be the same as escortceling or rape.


It proves that the Jewish society in Israel is much more developed than the muslim ones in the ME. Also, the American aid is about 1% of the budget and it must be spend in USA.

Read The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, it will illuminate your misconceptions on this matter of grave geopolitical significance. Also, the west has literally been subsidizing and arming Israel since its incipient beginnings in 47-48. You cannot say the same for its Muslim adversaries.

 

[oldcel75]

Read The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, it will illuminate your misconceptions on this matter of grave geopolitical significance. Also, the west has literally been subsidizing and arming Israel since its incipient beginnings in 47-48. You cannot say the same for its Muslim adversaries.

The soviets were aiding the Arabs from the 50-s with funds, military equipment and even soldiers. In the war of 1969-1970 soviet units were actively involved in fights against Israel (and got beaten like rabid dogs, you can read about "Rimon 20"). Same for the war of 1973 and 1982.
American aid is 1% of the budget.

I really trying to understand what you are trying to do: To start kind of movement against the evil Juuz with the autistics, asppies, and the social awkward teens here? You can do nothing without the support of the junkers and the burgers. And they like the life that the Jews arranged them. You need a great event like terrible defeat (ww1) and a crazy inflatia to get support.

 

[Deleted member 9229]

Ameen Brother Allah Akbar!

 

[Felix97]

This is all cope. There‘s nothing after death

 

[Zyros]

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This. Im baffled at seeing muslims and christians on a BLACKPILLED forum, when religion is one of the biggest bluepills.

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

This. Im baffled at seeing muslims and christians on a BLACKPILLED forum, when religion is one of the biggest bluepills.

you have to be genuinely retarded or just mentally immature to think some magical kike is gonna save you when you die

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Women can be bartered for without their consent through their father’s, brothers, uncles or other male relatives (Quran, 4:24)

This only applies to slaves and war captives ("right hand possesses"), but to get married you must have the consent of the whore and her guardian.

A man who is too financially destitute to afford a proper bride price (paying the male relatives for the value of the wife) may still be granted a marriageable woman if he is a devout Muslim (Hadith, 62:58)

Which hadith? Bukhari, Muslim, Abu-dawud, Ibn-majah? which one?

Islam is good at handling whores, the rest of it is complete bluepilled BS. Islam is a chad worshipping cult.

 

[Mahlo]

Why one particular part of Islam is Awesome*

The rest is third-world garbage, especially the parts about polygamy. Christianity does it better if you have to pick a religion.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

This. Im baffled at seeing muslims and christians on a BLACKPILLED forum, when religion is one of the biggest bluepills.

I wouldn't dispute the fact that religion is a false consolation and that it offers nothing beyond that which one can find in philosophy however I cannot discount the necessary social control function that religion serves nor can I disregard the very conspicuous way which Islam aligns itself with the aspirations of Incels everywhere. Thus, the validity and truthfulness of religion has no bearing on its political utility and capacity to advance some tangible agenda in the real world. Look at this pragmatically not philosophically.

 

[UndertakerCel]

All this is great, but then when you die you rot in hell for not believing in the Resurrection of Christ. May I recommend traditional Christianity instead? 90% same ethics with eternal salvation all wrapped into one!

This. White shariah now.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

This only applies to slaves and war captives ("right hand possesses"), but to get married you must have the consent of the whore and her guardian.



Which hadith? Bukhari, Muslim, Abu-dawud, Ibn-majah? which one?

Islam is good at handling whores, the rest of it is complete bluepilled BS. Islam is a chad worshipping cult.

It may have limited application as you say but that doesn't preclude the possibility of jews, Christians and other infidel femoids from falling under the provisions concerning the enslavement of captives and their unrestricted use by all men.

Why one particular part of Islam is Awesome*

The rest is third-world garbage, especially the parts about polygamy. Christianity does it better if you have to pick a religion.

How does a religion (Christianity) which promulgates the fundamental equality of all humanity enable us to impose a patriarchal form of absolute dominion over women? Furthermore, look at the most evangelical and fundamentalist areas of the Bible Belt and nowhere will you see women who are literally consigned to the status of second class citizens whose rights are superseded by and abrogated in favor of the men whom they live with. There are no stipulations in Christian literature and dogma that I am aware of that offer the same level of precedent and authority as Islam does on the subservience of women and their consignment to the status of chattel.

 

[fOreVER]

Islam is the true alpha religion. Every other religion is beta.

 

[Darth_Aurelius]

Islam is the true alpha religion. Every other religion is beta.

Agreed. Allah Akbar brother and all praise and glory be to Allah for it is good to praise him!

 

[fOreVER]

someone post some good ol' nasheeds!

 

[SadRealistcel]

someone post some good ol' nasheeds!

here you go brother

 

[Robo Sapien]

All this is great, but then when you die you rot in hell for not believing in the Resurrection of Christ. May I recommend traditional Christianity instead? 90% same ethics with eternal salvation all wrapped into one!

Islam is the true alpha religion. Every other religion is beta.

This religious dick measuring is hilarious.

 

[fOreVER]

ummaty qad laha fajrun sounds better.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Look at this pragmatically not philosophically.

Even from that perspective, no, actually more so from this reasoning I could say that my beliefs do much to serve my agenda. As ultimately, they're not really rooted in belief, I could rationally argue that our existence isn't worth propagating based upon empirical evidence. The only thing I require belief to ground is objective morality.

That said, this thread makes sense to me coming from your perspective. Advancing Islam might work for reinstating a patriarchy, at least in comparison to divided Christianity. If that's your goal anyway.