Serious Why Is The Importance of Social Skills Ignored Here?

[universallyabhorred]

Yes looks are most important to dating and sexual success. It's also true social skills plays a big role with women and a bigger role in terms of general life quality. Of course a chad can get away with having poor social skills but even he requires a minimum level of communication, a chad or chadlite that is mute and can't sign or is incapable of speaking normally such as through making small talk or feigning interest will definitely struggle with women. He'd still have women who are attracted to him, but he won't be slaying like other chads or chadlites, he might end up with little to no sexual experience. He will also struggle to make friends, find employment or live independently.

At normie level, social skills are an absolute necessity, without it the person will definitely be incel and will likely never lose his virginity. He will definitely not be able to get a social circle, job or live independently since day to day life requires effective social and communication skills. On the other hand there even exist a few cases of seemingly hopeless unattractive guys ascending or getting lucky with women because they had appealing enough social skills to seem charming, likable or interesting to women on the surface.

Social skills are the difference between lonely isolated jobless virgin and extroverted sexually active with a girlfriend and high paying marketing job at sub7 looks. Even at chadlite+ looks social skills strongly influence how much intercourse the person receives throughout his life and how popular, or successful he is.

 

[FinnCel]

Cope
It's all about looks

 

[Deleted member 677]

Your social skills are your face.

 

[universallyabhorred]

Cope
It's all about looks

Your social skills are your face.

Didn't read a single word huh? Part of being blackpilled is observing and documenting reality, exaggerated claims like this make you seem just as ignorant as the soy-tears cucks.

 

[Joker]

Your social skills are your face.

personality = height + face

At normie level, social skills are an absolute necessity, without it the person will definitely be incel and will likely never lose his virginity.

you make a valid point.
you wont make it far in life if you're a social retard, especially in the realm of friendships (which are ESSENTIAL in ascending) or relationships.
should definitely be talked about more

 

[mybodyisrotting]

It's a meme that became reality in many people's minds tbh, a lot of users here fall for the fallacious thinking that if a Chad can do without a certain trait, said trait doesn't matter at all.
In my opinion a person's temperament is the most important element of attraction after looks, social skills are also a factor. I guess people overlook these because being ugly often brings both of those traits down since early childhood, so they see them as going hand-in-hand.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

Because social skills are largely correlated with how attractive you are. If you're fed validation your whole life, of course you're going to be confident and competent, and vice versa.

 

[Deleted member 23450]

Cope
It's all about looks

95% looks 5% social skill.

 

[ThisLifeKillsMe]

Because social skills are largely correlated with how attractive you are. If you're fed validation your whole life, of course you're going to be confident and competent, and vice versa.

 

[AmIjustDreaming]

Your social skills are your face.

lmao

 

[Monk of Failure]

Social skill is for normies not incels.

 

[happiless]

True. By having social skills, being extroverted and NT, they are exposed to more opportunities to have sex (with foids below their looksmatch level). Like if you're ugly enough to have a 0.1% chance to get laid during any night out with normie friends, you'll eventually get laid after 1000 nights out

 

[universallyabhorred]

Social skill is for normies not incels.

Social skills matters for much more than ascension in life. Sure a charming incel will probably not get a gf, but he will definitely make friends and build a social circle, generally other incels, along with having an easier time finding employment and smoother interaction with people in general. As a result his mood and psychological state will be better than autisticcels.

 

[LastGerman]

Sure a charming incel will probably not get a gf, but he will definitely make friends and build a social circle, generally other incels, along with having an easier time finding employment and smoother interaction with people in general. As a result his mood and psychological state will be better than autisticcels.

That is absolutely true.

 

[truthpill]

No social skills for ur frame

 

[FrothySolutions]

I got a warning for "cherry picking" last time I responded to a similar topic.

If anything the inverse is "cherry picking." I doubt a drooling retard could get very far unless he was unrealistically attractive. And that's the defense people fall back on. "Aha! So if he WAS attractive enough, people would look past it! Therefore looks are the only thing that matters!" No, because not everyone is Chad. But non-Chads get laid. Clinging to this "But Chad does it" fallacy is one of those things that makes us look stupid.

 

[schizoidcel_11]

I've never heard of an incel ascending because he bettered his social skills. It's always because he looksmaxxed.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Because social skills are largely correlated with how attractive you are. If you're fed validation your whole life, of course you're going to be confident and competent, and vice versa.

 

[Vorbei]

Social skills are indispensable in this day and age. In the 21st century, all workplaces are highly socialised, there's no longer any escape to unsociable jobs like coding or accountancy. Even stacking shelves in a supermarket or flipping burgers in McDonalds requires you to undergo psychometric analysis. The feminisation of society definitely plays a part in this. Without social skills it is hard to find work, which excludes you from the dating pool unless you have god-tier looks.

 

[happiless]

Social skills are indispensable in this day and age. In the 21st century, all workplaces are highly socialised, there's no longer any escape to unsociable jobs like coding or accountancy. Even stacking shelves in a supermarket or flipping burgers in McDonalds requires you to undergo psychometric analysis. The feminisation of society definitely plays a part in this. Without social skills it is hard to find work, which excludes you from the dating pool unless you have god-tier looks.

And the uglier you are, the more social skills you need to compensate. It's over for asocialcels

 

[sub8male]

Socially skills and good looks go hand In hand. Good social skills come naturally with good looks and the positive feedback you get from others if you have good looks.

And the uglier you are, the more social skills you need to compensate. It's over for asocialcels

Cope. You can’t compensate. You gain good social skills through people treating you well as a result of good looks.

 

[Robtical]

Your social skills are your face.

There's no social skills for your face.

 

[universallyabhorred]

Socially skills and good looks go hand In hand. Good social skills come naturally with good looks and the positive feedback you get from others if you have good looks.

Cope. You can’t compensate. You gain good social skills through people treating you well as a result of good looks.

This is an overgeneralization, while social skills are moderately correlated with attractive looks, this isn't always the case. There are ugly guys with great social skills just as there's good looking guys with poor social skills or are autistic. Social skills is heavily influenced by genetics and your social environment and experiences while growing up.

 

[Deleted member 23518]

Social skills do not exist. It's your personal traits like attractiveness, wealth, connections etc. that determine whether you're part of the in group or not.

 

[universallyabhorred]

Social skills do not exist. It's your personal traits like attractiveness, wealth, connections etc. that determine whether you're part of the in group or not.

Social skills refers to concepts such as verbal skills, how well you can read and understand emotions of people, how well you can mimic others or blend in different contexts, how well you can say the right words to people in various situations, etc. It's definitely a real thing, there are examples of ugly guys who are popular, well liked and even famous. Though good looking guys are favored and require less social skills to gain status and connections.

 

[JestER]

cope, It's literally all about looks. The better your face, the better your social skills. Mentalcels aka fakecels are failed normies because they don't even try in the first place or mostly LARP, having autism barely effects SMV if your face is top-tier

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

What's the point? You're either NT or you're not. There's nothing you can actually do about it. The brain is just like the face.

PUA is a great case study of how impossible it is for non-NT to become NT, even if they know all of the dynamics consciously. Because socialization isn't just knowledge, it's perception and reaction on a level far beneath conscious thought.

 

[Speed]

I'd prefer IT cucks saying work on social skills over that "personality" bullshit. As if anyone is sperging out dropping blackpill truths IRL. We all know dropping blackpills to average normies IRL is like the kiss of death.

 

[Deleted member 16624]

Because it contradicts lookism

 

[Total Imbecile]

No social skills for your face and race

 

[GeneticFilth]

Because most people here aren't autistic and there are tons of examples of people diagnosed with autism that still get laid e.g. eggman and ice poseidon (I know they are just anecdotes). Social skills=looks unless autistic.

 

[omnigold]

Because social skills won't get you laid when you aren't goodlooking, even tho NT standards are very high.

 

[Olgierd]

So, just have a good personality theory yet again?
Being social won't make a woman attracted to you, it makes no sense.

 

[Nothingness]

Look only.
All the rest is boleshit

 

[0x3nf4rt]

How can you practice social skills if you're not confident with your appearance?

 

[ShyManlet]

im a trucel cos truly ugly and manlet.
But a lot of people here have normie tier looks

and if they admit social skill is a big part of getting friends and gf then theyd feel bad about themselves so theyd rather believe looks is everything, but from what Ive observed a lot of normie looking guys have gf just fine, so long as they have a social circle and NT.
its the shut in introverted normies who barely have friends that have problems getting gf.

I understand trucels and low tier normie saying its not about social skill because at this level you have to rely on betabuxxing to score a gf, but the normie dudes could always get to a social circle and get a gf somehow, unless they missed out on that train on their youth and is too old already...

 

[IsolationHurts]

That was really painful to read. I strongly disagree. If you're ugly, no social skills will save you from inceldom. Maybe they can be useful for normies and Chads but... there should be none here.

 

[azakhan]

Because social skills are largely correlated with how attractive you are. If you're fed validation your whole life, of course you're going to be confident and competent, and vice versa.

 

[sub8male]

This is an overgeneralization, while social skills are moderately correlated with attractive looks, this isn't always the case. There are ugly guys with great social skills just as there's good looking guys with poor social skills or are autistic. Social skills is heavily influenced by genetics and your social environment and experiences while growing up.

Your experiences while growing up are determined by looks. You ever noticed how the ugly kids were less social In high school and the good looking kids were popular? That’s not an over generalization that’s a fact. It’s pretty much perfect correlation that the popular and social kids (and later adults) are attractive and the ugly ones (like us) have have social skills.

 

[Deleted member 677]

What's the point? You're either NT or you're not. There's nothing you can actually do about it. The brain is just like the face.

PUA is a great case study of how impossible it is for non-NT to become NT, even if they know all of the dynamics consciously. Because socialization isn't just knowledge, it's perception and reaction on a level far beneath conscious thought.

 

[Mexicanmanletcel]

Yes looks are most important to dating and sexual success. It's also true social skills plays a big role with women and a bigger role in terms of general life quality. Of course a chad can get away with having poor social skills but even he requires a minimum level of communication, a chad or chadlite that is mute and can't sign or is incapable of speaking normally such as through making small talk or feigning interest will definitely struggle with women. He'd still have women who are attracted to him, but he won't be slaying like other chads or chadlites, he might end up with little to no sexual experience. He will also struggle to make friends, find employment or live independently.

At normie level, social skills are an absolute necessity, without it the person will definitely be incel and will likely never lose his virginity. He will definitely not be able to get a social circle, job or live independently since day to day life requires effective social and communication skills. On the other hand there even exist a few cases of seemingly hopeless unattractive guys ascending or getting lucky with women because they had appealing enough social skills to seem charming, likable or interesting to women on the surface.

Social skills are the difference between lonely isolated jobless virgin and extroverted sexually active with a girlfriend and high paying marketing job at sub7 looks. Even at chadlite+ looks social skills strongly influence how much intercourse the person receives throughout his life and how popular, or successful he is.

Back to reddit faggot

 

[Chileancel]

Looks and social skills are inversely proportional, the better looking you are the fewer skills you need and vice-versa. Being NT can improve your chances from 0% to 2%, but never in history, a good personality has nullified the impact of having a face under 4/10. Girls can marry a guy with bad looks but never due to personality. More often than not is for money, betabuxing, post-wall settling or status.

 

[kvn]

cope, It's literally all about looks. The better your face, the better your social skills. Mentalcels aka fakecels are failed normies because they don't even try in the first place or mostly LARP, having autism barely effects SMV if your face is top-tier

Yes IF YOUR FACE IS TOP TIER!!!! And 95% of men dont have top tier face yet vast majoeity of them still gets laid. How could that be i wonder???? Well they probably have decent social skills and can actually connect with other ppl on mental level!!! Inb4 muh bbux

 

[just_world_ogre]

Social skills are useful for normies, useless for incels.

 

[JestER]

Yes IF YOUR FACE IS TOP TIER!!!! And 95% of men dont have top tier face yet vast majoeity of them still gets laid. How could that be i wonder???? Well they probably have decent social skills and can actually connect with other ppl on mental level!!! Inb4 muh bbux

"MuH pErSoNaLiTy" also betabuxx

 

[Chileancel]

JFL at believing 95% of men are getting laid.
1% Chads - Giga chads
5% Chad-lite
Those can have sex every day or several times a week. With different girls.

10% High tier normies: can have sex once a week but mostly with their partner. Very rarely with a hookup.
50% Normies: will get lucky once every six months or longer. The ones with girlfriends will have sex once a month before getting dumped or cucked. From that 50%, you can have guys with even longer dry spells, sometimes years. Semi-Incels, if you wish.

25% Incels: No sexual interaction whatsoever.

 

[HyperVersager_4EVER]

Giga cope.
Gigachad would get a pass for anything. From autism, misogyny, retardation, racism... to everything normally undesirable to normies.
Personality copers explain this:

 

[universallyabhorred]

Because most people here aren't autistic and there are tons of examples of people diagnosed with autism that still get laid e.g. eggman and ice poseidon (I know they are just anecdotes). Social skills=looks unless autistic.

Autism is an extreme manifestation of poor social skills, due to low social intuition. Even among NT's social skills can vary widely from borderline dark triad extrovert to introverted socially awkward and anxious. To claim an normie tier NT guy wouldn't significantly improve his chances with women though bringing up his social skills from below average to above average is ridiculous. Even an ugly person will be able to improve his social or professional life, by increasing social skills, if it's below average. Most of the time when an unattractive person is unable to make or maintain friendships it has more to do with his interpersonal skills than looks, unless the person is noticeably disfigured.

 

[CaptainCuck]

Very good thread. Social skills matter greatly since humans are social creatures and therefore will expect you to have social skills down pat by default.

The only problem is the toll it takes on your personality if you're not a natural extrovert or build for socialising. Years on end of being a hidden autist trying to play happy normie can eventually lead to severe mental issues and social fatigue/anhedonia, making the benefits small in comparison.

 

[Chileancel]

You're discounting the halo effect, man. What use does a woman have for a man's personality?