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Doesn't make sense to me
Why is Hating Women for acting on Genetic Impulses and Social Conditioning Compatible with the BP and Determinism?
laseiz faire or whatever the fuck it's called.
it is what it is nigga
happenstance W
free will L
free will L
You can hate women for creating a feminist world where the worst aspects of hypergamy are amplified.
All of this whilst masquerading as some benevolent force.
Foids are creatures with a thin social veneer of compassion, but are not truly compassionate.
Genetic determinism isn't the reason behind hypergamy anyway, a lot of foid mating choices are dysgenic.
All of this whilst masquerading as some benevolent force.
Foids are creatures with a thin social veneer of compassion, but are not truly compassionate.
Genetic determinism isn't the reason behind hypergamy anyway, a lot of foid mating choices are dysgenic.
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why do you assume they had agency in the creation of a gynocentric world and weren't just acting on genetic and societal impulses? Also genetic preferences can be dysgenic eg: fischerian runaway selection.
This is such a low IQ argument
Niggers have underdeveloped brains due to biology, that doesn't mean that I'll remain apathetic when they kill someone from my race. Treating them like a force of nature is cucked, you force your will on inferior creatures like a proper man.
Niggers have underdeveloped brains due to biology, that doesn't mean that I'll remain apathetic when they kill someone from my race. Treating them like a force of nature is cucked, you force your will on inferior creatures like a proper man.
You could make this argument for anything though...
Are you going to argue that a serial killer couldn't help mass-murdering people because it was due to genetic and societal impulses?
Women are not exclusively shielded from criticism.
Agreed, they don't deserve rights since they lack agency. That hasn't happened yet though, which you seem to be forgetting.
Kill yourself today
What is the gook in your avi named?
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I don't believe in apportioning blame and it seems incompatible with determinism. It doesn't mean that we wouldn't change incentives and the environment to make sure that a serial killer doesn't kill again (life in prison or the death penalty).
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@Tarquinius @Dusk Unrelated but do you think that most people on this site should be allowed to reproduce? from what I've seen its a lot of low IQ people with severe mental problems (not you guys btw, which is why I'm asking). During the time that western europe was able to rise above the rest of world, we saw many men and women not reproducing and marriage being delayed to allow for status signalling. I'm not arguing that female preferences are not misaligned, but even under proper alignment imo most of these people should not breed if we want to maintain eugenic selection pressures.
en.wikipedia.org
Western European marriage pattern - Wikipedia
Many people on this site lament that they should not reproduce!@Tarquinius @Dusk Unrelated but do you think that most people on this site should be allowed to reproduce? from what I've seen its a lot of low IQ people with severe mental problems (not you guys btw, which is why I'm asking). During the time that western europe was able to rise above the rest of world, we saw many men and women not reproducing and marriage being delayed to allow for status signalling. I'm not arguing that female preferences are not misaligned, but even under proper alignment imo most of these people should not breed if we want to maintain eugenic selection pressures.
Western European marriage pattern - Wikipedia
We are acutely aware that poor genetics should not reproduce, yes. The issues arises when women reproduce regardless of how good their genetics are. Thereby it doesn't matter if retarded men are barred from reproduction, the genes will still be spread by proxy of retarded women that aren't subjected to the same selection pressures, so it is hypocritical to say that incels are rightly barred from being incorporated socially and sexually due to this reason as their female counterparts are not.
And that's besides the point... female preferences are inherently dysgenic. Tall, brutish and below-average intelligence men are the primary target of female sexual selection. This may have been a great thing in pre-industrial times when it would've meant more protection during critical moments, but in the current era it frays social cohesion and is unreasonable given that women demand equal if not superior status to men; and also are pro-feminization by way of polluting the waters with birth control and participating in xenoestrogen spread in the environment through makeup and other vectors alongside delaying having children to their later years which increases mutational load and thus chance of faulty genes being expressed.
Perhaps women are just acting on genetic and social impulses, but this assertion strips away all agency of women. If women are really so stupid that they cannot think for themselves then why are they demanding equal status to men in the first place? And why did we grant it? Ultimately the argument that 'other people' need to shape the environment to guide women like some kind of sheepdog relies on the assumption that men are any more conscious than women.
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I agree female preferences are dysgenic and that more females should go MGTOW. btw have you read Joseph Bronski?
They're demanding equal status because it's in their individual self interest, even though it may be a collective harm to society. Men are granting it because of changes in elite composition and mutational load. This can be changed through motivated elites and through genetic selection. Conservative TFR is already a lot greater than liberal TFR, and if you can use memetic transmission to inform as many people about embryo selection as possible its certain feasible for the current trend to be reversed.
How am I doing that?
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Is hate cathartic for you?
If they're reasonably healthy and intelligent, yeah.@Tarquinius @Dusk Unrelated but do you think that most people on this site should be allowed to reproduce? from what I've seen its a lot of low IQ people with severe mental problems (not you guys btw, which is why I'm asking). During the time that western europe was able to rise above the rest of world, we saw many men and women not reproducing and marriage being delayed to allow for status signalling. I'm not arguing that female preferences are not misaligned, but even under proper alignment imo most of these people should not breed if we want to maintain eugenic selection pressures.
Western European marriage pattern - Wikipedia
No. And that's beside the point, you haven't provided any reasonable counterargument to what I said
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If its not cathartic what's the utility to hate when blame cannot be apportionted?
What exactly are you trying to say?
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I've misjudged you. You are low IQ
Am too low iQ to understand that title
Are you doing the "foids can't be blamed because of their lack of agency" shit again? I literally addressed that here:
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where did I claim that they deserve equal rights you low IQ nigger
Xhe is too low IQ to make a proper argument, so xhe relies on a lexical shroud to hide xis retardation.
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I didn't say you claimed that, dip shit. It's a logical consequence. The practical problem is that they do have them, which you don't factor into your argument.
We can argue about hypothetical foids all day, but that will not accurately reflect reality.
Dude your literally just off Reddit
Bait harder
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its only a logical consequence if you are below 90 IQ and need to emotionally load any sort of prescriptive opinion you have.
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You're jewish
We don't give children rights because they lack agency. Why would it not apply to women, retard? Your whole premise is about them being guided by biological and environmental factors.
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bro where did I argue that women should have equal rights you retarded faggot
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your parents should have aborted your when you were an embryo
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@Dusk I binge read all your posts and I really like your writing style
They tried
I said that a logical consequence of them not having agency is them not having rights, which you called retarded.
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I shouldn't have to clarify but giving women equal rights because they don't have agency is only logically consistent if you are literally retarded
Now you're just rage baiting.
@PLA1092 how can you guys ban @eatdinner for his bluepilled genetic argument while letting this faggot off the hook when he does the exact same thing?
It's like a baby drawing on the wall or a dog urinating on the carpet. You don't hate them for it. You just instruct them because they don't know better. Women have free will, but their behavior is mainly a combination of genes and environment. We can't put the entire blame on them. Women need to be guided and kept in place.
Don't judge people here for hating on women. They have been treated with disrespect by women their whole lives. It's only natural that this would be their reaction.
Don't judge people here for hating on women. They have been treated with disrespect by women their whole lives. It's only natural that this would be their reaction.
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I don't judge them, but you should aspire to rise above autonomic disgust responses.
If you have free will, then you deserve to be held accountable for your actions.
I like how you described it. "Autonomic disgust responses." There is a brain area that relates to disgust, namely the insular cortex. It prevents humans and other animals from poisoning themselves with rotten food. Scientists found a curious thing about the insular cortex: when we think about that which is morally reprehensible to us, it activates. The disgust response and the aversion to morally reprehensible things are connected. So when people here think about women's actions, they are not only using the rational brain, namely the neocortex, they are also using the emotional brain, namely the limbic system, to which the insula belongs.
Explains a lot about our behavior, yes?
hate isn't a metaphysical position jfl
why tf is OP letting foids off the hook because their behaviour is 'natural,' but criticising people for hating them? surely people hating them is also natural, so you shouldn't have a problem with it
oh right it's because they're a foid worshipping GrAY simping for foids
why tf is OP letting foids off the hook because their behaviour is 'natural,' but criticising people for hating them? surely people hating them is also natural, so you shouldn't have a problem with it
oh right it's because they're a foid worshipping GrAY simping for foids
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I don't hate women for hating incels nor do I hate incels for hating women. I believe that members of both groups should work within the compatibalist moral framework to reduce implicit biases, and I believe in societal and genetic changes to make this process more feasible.
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