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I've been thinking about this for a while now. If life is that bad, don't you think roping would end it all? I'm scared and I don't want to die, but I'm just done trying and there is no more joy in anything.
Because Im a strong mofo
Cause I want to continue coping
dont do this shit, i tried roping but i realize that it doesnt fucking matter, just keep coping until you die
hope for a post-scarcity society and a cure for aging through artificial superintelligence
i have tried multiple times with different methods . obviously failed each time . the "self preservation instinct" thing is not a meme
Artifical SuperIntelligence and its relevance for the people on this site
Long thread. But I truly believe what's in here to be important for each and every one of you. Even though I'm new here and don't really know any of you, I can relate to the people on here, just based on us sharing a common struggle, having gone through similar miserable and traumatic...
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My parents are still Alive
Just masturbate... This the result of not going out and staying in the house for too long.
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To afraid to end up as a cripple if I fail. Life is agonizingly difficult already with a healty body, living as handicapped will be like utter hell for me.
AGI changes everything so fundamentally that life is simply not the same. What I'm saying is that there is a technological singularity approaching. Healthy and normal societies don't look like they used to once you have a untiring, automatic, superintelligent agent remaking the world in the image of w/e utility function we ended up implanting in it.
Who gives a shit about degeneracy when you one day will live in some shared simulation where you can experience everything you want whenever you want while the machines stay outside and keep everything running by themselfs.
People hear these ideas and think them outlandish. But consider: We went from first light bulb to walking on the moon in about 100 years of technological progress powered by human level intelligence. Increase the speed of progress massively by adding a superintelligence that outperforms us in every domain and then try to make a realistic guess what we will be capable of by the time your natural life span runs out.
Now imagine we cure aging before you die. And you can just stick around and wait for tech to become as powerful as is possible within the confince of the laws of nature. That is what you are working with once aging is out of the way, and you will get to enjoy it for god knows how long.
You are worried your past experiences will haunt you? How about a loving sex bot that is the best partner you could ever dream of, that is perfectly adjusted for your needs and lets you experience love and affection until the damage your loneliness caused you has been healed. How about we progress medicine until we can just remodel your body or just give you a brain transplant into a body of your own design. And then there will be no more need to feel insecure. Etcetc
Once tech starts improing itself who knows what will become possible. And this ain't cope because I honestly believe it. And that believe is shared by some fairly smart people working in the field themselfs.
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Idk I lost courage when I got everything ready
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Ah which one?
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What happened to @IceStorm ?
he kept starting fights with other users, not the first time he is banned, he got banned for 3 months before.
if you mean which methods,,ive tried hanging myself and standing in front of a train. also water poisoning lol
not depressed so no point in roping, + too much drugs to just rope now,
S-risk, meaning some kind of distopian hell on earth scenario, is in my sig. There is no certainty, if anything I think us all ending dead or in hell is far more likely than any ending that could be considered "good". But death would be the same as roping now, so I'm more or less fine with that. In some S-risk scenarios you can escape hell by killing yourself. So the question becomes: "What is bigger, potential risk of what is left of all S-risk scenarios multiplied by how likely those scenarios are to become reality be OR potential upside of a good ending multiplied by likelyhood of a good ending.
The whole "what values will the AI try to maximize" thing is about alignment theory, and the far, far bigger problem that you haven't mentioned is how we have no idea how to make the AI do what we want and only that. We aren't able to control what ends up as the goal / 'values' of the AI very much, and that is true already now for AIs far dumber than the ones I'm betting on.
Though we do know that the AI will more or less stick to w/e it ends up with. It isn't like a human, it doesn't change it's mind because it questions the meaning of life or gets bored or anything like that. If the AI ends up with the goal to bake as many cakes as possible, that is what it will do, and it will transform every part of the universe it can get its hands on into a cake factory, for example.
Obviously I have no certainty about what the future will look like. But that is nothing new or unique to me. We all just try to make best guesses based on the information available. And my best guess includes a realistic chance to see heaven on earth be realized. Which is a strong motivation for not killing myself. Which was the original question.
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Don't do that shit, it kills you
Coping, somedays i wake up and for a few minutes i feel genuinely happy.
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Me too. Thinking SN.
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I have everything ready too
My copes still keep me entertained
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Anti-Depressants makes me not want to rope anymore. I use to want to rope but with the medication it makes me not feel “alive” anymore. So now I’m rotting 24/ in bed and the most productive things I do are in my dreams. Also scared of the afterlife
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Where do you live? I can finish the job for you if you really want and in the event that you would fail. But I guess it would be hard to trust me. If you do it, you could also dm me your real name so I can research if you really died or not, then finisht he job for you in case you failed. But again jfl I can see how weird that sounds. I just want to help a fellow brocel
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My dreams feel more real than my waking hours
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Also, I realize that you only live once. And for me to be born in the 21st century, human, and unmutilated is really slim and lucky. I would feel like I’m throwing that away. Maybe it’s the medication talking and making me feel that i shouldn’t rope
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Even if the establishment is bluepilled, given enough time. Things will changed like how we use to live in slums with no electricity while Monarchs live in palaces. Things will always change, nothing will last forever.
Someone in medieval time couldn’t comprehend modern society, just how we couldn’t comprehend what the future will be, only make guesses that are wrong because our judgement is too clouded by the present.
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I think there are two motivations for roping.
And 1, I don’t suffer enough to rope. I’m staying out of trouble and live within my incel capabilities and don’t overextend myself, thus not ending up burned out and disappointed. I also don’t compare myself all the time to normies and Chads and I don’t allow anyone to compare me to them, which reduces my suffering tremendously, almost completely.
- Egotistical reasons
- Altruistic reasons
And 1, I don’t suffer enough to rope. I’m staying out of trouble and live within my incel capabilities and don’t overextend myself, thus not ending up burned out and disappointed. I also don’t compare myself all the time to normies and Chads and I don’t allow anyone to compare me to them, which reduces my suffering tremendously, almost completely.
Cuz i truly despise myself and i want to make myself suffer
Reasons for roping is mental pain or physical pain or so much mental pain it hurts you physically or that there is no way out of a situation.
Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather not dox myself to a stranger on the internet.
i mean there are many things to this world other than foids
When you die it won't matter a whole lot anymore
I don’t even have any guarantee that is your intention. Seems odd you would do a favor that could possibly get you prison for life to some rando who you don’t owe anything to. You could be a troll who wants to leak my info online for shits and giggles for all I know.
"be the change you want to see in this world"
I would love it if someone else could finish the job if I fail to shoot my head off.
Because i dont wanna go to hell
Self-preservation instinct and internet. Besides that, i have nothing holding me back from commiting suicide; no career advancement, no romantic relationship obviously, no friendship.
Only optimists commit suicide, optimists who no longer succeed at being optimists. The others, having no reason to live, why would they have any to die?
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Quotes by Emil M. Cioran (Author of The Trouble With Being Born)
But to me, it's not that simple. Honestly the external pressures of life push you into not wanting to exist any more. I just want to fuck off and chill. I want everyone away from me. Misery loves company. This is why I prefer to stay away from the vast majority of people and live in my own little internet world.
My life isn't bad enough to rope yet. I will probably want to rope when I start wage slaving.
A lot of people here are under 30 and take their good health for granted.
A lot of people here are under 30 and take their good health for granted.
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It could happen when we reach the technological singularity
Haven't played Final Fantasy 16 and Resident Evil 4 Remake yet.
Dont do it
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Don't you think God will forgive?
yea but still wouldnt want to take the chance tbh
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