I like to have hot women sucking my dick. If they don't feel attracted to me, too bad. I got what i wanted and she got what she wanted (money). Better than nothing, you've to be pragmatic when you're in a shitty situation like ours.
Good point. The "leather shoe" look on most hookers denotes that she's been pregnant several times by different men, and is therefore haggard and unfit to be a healthy mother for your child. Just my hypothesis, anyway.High IQ. Don't forget the "leather shoe" vibe that escorts project
Nature doesn't "want" anything, it doesn't have a consciousness, sex just became something that is pleasurable, because the beings that got the most pleasure from sex were more likely to have sex, so the genes that result in dopamine releases due to sexual stimuli are the ones that survived and became more and more prevalent
So really and truly, the purpose of sex IS PLEASURE, reproduction is just a SIDE EFFECT
If humans had evolved to somehow be immortal we'd likely have developed traits that made us reproduce less, sex would maybe even be painful
This, I've noticed there's a lack of pragmatism amongst incels on this forum, which is very ironic as so many protest themselves to be so much more logical and introspective than normies, really and truly most of them are just as illogical and emotionally driven as normies.
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Humans are egoists by default, hard to find a human that is completely free of having some sort of ego.
Never stated I wouldn't pay for a date, just prefer if I could get her to pay half. And date a hooker, why? I might as well just pay for the sex. Not sure I can get "companionship" from someone paid to spend time on me.
I agree with that, but that removes the whole "incel" term, as it is redundant unless you are legitimately cannot afford a hooker.
Incels are human, humans are driven by emotion.
Humans are driven by urges and stimuli, emotions are just the mental projections humans use to categorize some of them
Would you classify hunger and thirst as an emotion? (I doubt it)
People often seem to speak of every "feeling" that drives a human as though conflating them all as emotions, they aren't, some "feelings" are objective, others are subjective, its up to each individual to choose how much they let the subjective ones influence their thoughts and actions, we don't get to give ourselves "a pass" just because we feel something and excuse it with "were only human", a cliche BS phrase that is so normie like
Using appeal to nature in this way is a slippery slope - "I can't help myself feeling this way, I'm only human"
Ok good, give normies the same pass, stop complaining about hypergamy then, we can't be introspective when its convenient to us and then "driven by emotion" when its also convenient, its just a dishonest way of thinking and living, you can't have it both ways and not also excuse your "enemies"
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Depends. Some people eat beyond the means than they need to survive, which is a mental construct/stimuli they put on themselves.
So people shouldn't form opinions then? Sure some people take it far, but hypergamy does exist and it always favors females. Isn't this the basis of the blackpill itself? That LSM is the reason for female attraction over what "Normies" claim as "Personality". The blackpill cannot exist if the idea that LSM is false.
Even the most pragmatic person is fooling themselves if they believe they do not form a emotional bias in some level.
To say hypergamy is fine is to deny that hypergamy has gotten worse over the past few decades and rather rapidly due to social changes.
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"Muh only human, they can't help themselves, they're driven by emotion"
Do you get the point, if you appeal to nature when its convenient to your emotions anyone can do the same
The entire point of the black pill (well as I see it) is to be self aware enough to understand this and put thought and effort into correcting this behavior, not excuse yourself of it because "muh human nature", whats the point of being aware of your shortcomings if you are going to willingly choose to not try and change them
Whenever I become aware of an emotional bias I have, I do away with it, last one was with friends, and I realized this weakness in myself when one of them killed himself, but looking back it was a necessary event for me to realize a flaw I had and to excise it from myself, no longer do I bear any attachments to any friends strong enough that it would affect me or impede my decisions, nor family
I only hope I can discover more of my weaknesses in situations where they don't count and don't involve me missing life changing oppurtunities
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I do not get what you are trying to prove. That the increasing hypergamy is fine? We should just be happy and buy escorts? Subhumans have no say, and shouldn't complain about anything? Only female emotion matters?
This seems like a "pointless" point overall.
Re-check my post, edited it, you reply pretty fast
There is nothing else to do. You just have to scrapmaxx
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I think there is enough evidence to say that most females in the west do exhibit some hypergamic traits that is heavily disfavoring average males.
My personal gripe is with people with deny LSM.
Going with that thinking:
Alright hypergamy is fine since its a emotion, and we should improve to meet these female's standards. Doesn't this just become a race to no end? Where every male is just trying to get higher on the ever increasing LSM scale? At some point this will become un-feasible to some males.
Its good to remove emotional bias, but its a impossible task to believe you can permanently remove all of it. But really to what end are you trying to reach by removing all emotional bias? For self satisfaction? Isn't that an ego in on itself?
In the end in an argument or debate with someone its far easier and efficient to pull on their emotional bias than try to prove or rationalize a pragmatic approach.
But the reason sex is pleasurable in the first place is because it's vital to procreation. We would never have engaged in sex if it felt painful, or even neutral. The pleasure exists in order to lull you into the sexual act and propagate the species. So, like I said, the purpose for US to have sex is (largely) for the pleasure, while for nature, it's for procreation. In other words, for US procreation is a side effect of sexual pleasure, while for nature, pleasure is a side effect of procreation.
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The OP is really why I don't like all the red pill shit on the internet. Chads are like these hookups are how these hos are these days. To me it still feels unfulfilling if she didn't want a relationship.
Don't get thrown off by my name. I don't adhere to the modern interpretation of the "Red Pill". I use the term "Red Pill" in its original meaning. Somewhere along the way, MGTOW copers hijacked the Red Pill, and now it has a negative connotation on this forum. The "Red Pill" used to be what we now call the "Black Pill".
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That's why I pay extra shekels for GFE.
1. If one removes their emotional biases how are they supposed to be satisfied by that task, seems kind of contradictory when you think about it. Also wouldn't you just now be conscious of the new bias that makes you egotistical and remove that one too?
2. What I'm trying to reach by removing my emotional biases is a more competent version of myself, one that cannot be swayed, blackmailed, misled, etc, to me my ultimate self would be an unfeeling, pragmatist, like an artificial intelligence.
It has nothing to do with ego and you really seemed to be grasping for straws on that one, came out of nowhere. Makes no sense to argue that someone is trying to appeal to their ego by becoming less emotional, by virtue of that task you'd "feel less" and actually be less likely to "feel pride"
At the point I am in my "trials" I can say I don't feel proud about anything nor do I try to take pride in anything I do, I only look at things from the perspective of what benefit it yields for me
What does this point have to do with anything?
Actually when you think about it, if evolution theory is true, then there were much simpler organisms before us that reproduced and did not have the sensory systems developed yet to experience pleasure, so there was a point where sex was "neutral" and probably even painful, but at some point there was a mutation and it became a bit pleasurable, and the ones who felt that were the ones who reproduced more, and so on and so forth
Sex didn't just start of pleasurable
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They never love us
Idk how do I find an escort kek I’d pay for one if I could
OP, how would you know?
Have you ever had sex with a hooker?
Have you ever had sex with a hooker?
I don't have anything against escortcels but I would never waste my money on something like that.
> I would never waste my money on something like that.
> Will buy the latest console and games to spend hours unlocking virtual achievements while his real life goes to shit
It makes no difference either way I'm still ugly and a loser at the end of the day. I just wouldn't want to tell someone that I had to pay for something that most people get for free just because I lost the genetic lottery.
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I just don't get the point in arguing that everyone is volcel/mentalcel when your argument seems more likely to prove "incels" itself is a non issue because any male can just go buy a hooker. That thread you linked seemed to come off as if you were appealing to your emotional bias against those who won't pay a hooker. Claiming they were like masochists because they won't just have sex with some hooker. Yet you were claiming you are trying to remove all emotional bias a post beforehand. Maybe you weren't, but it came off to me that way.
However, now you say lack of emotional bias removes satisfaction. Then why say incels shouldn't be able to use the "Were only human" cliche, aren't they human?
One side you say emotional bias should be limited all together, but then argue its required to feel satisfied, It just seems contradictory.
I brought up that point since you were saying incels should appeal to only pragmatic solutions when debating or making a point.
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You just proved here that you aren't being pragmatic and are just thinking emotionally (driven by ego)
Why do you have to tell anyone anything, thought you were incel, where did this huge circle of people interested in your life appear from JFL (the irony of these kinds of arguments
). Nobody needs to know what you're doing, but you are really just an egotistical attention whore so even sex for you is about other people knowing that you are getting it, and getting it THE RIGHT WAYSex for you IS NOT EVEN ABOUT YOU jfl, you have to see how cucked that mentality is, when you are driven by ego, nothing you do is ever about you, its about what other people think of you, and with that mindset you are limited in everything you do, you'll never go after anything you want PHYSICALLY because as an incel you won't be able to have those things EMOTIONALLY, you are endlessly chasing after shit you will never have
You need to be more pragmatic with your way of life and life choices
Please stop with this false BS, sex has never and will never be free, its just that your perspective is narrow
Every Interaction Is A Transaction Of Resources
The way I look at it, everything is a resource, even looks, money is just the modern common unit of resource representation. Think of looks as a currency (L) and money also as a currency ($), L is just a currency that is worth more, but that's because its a very scarce resource that cannot be...
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Sex was never and has never been free, all men pay, some just have more of some resources than others, if you look at ones looks as a currency (L) just like ones money ($) then its easier to conceptualize whats actually taking place in the sexual market. Chad just has more L currency than you, on top of $ currency, L is like the currency used for initial down payments, he isn't getting anything for free, his payments have been made by default, he was just born richer than you looks wise, no different than a person who is born richer than you money wise can afford to go to better schools, hire the best tutors, establish high level connections, etc
People like to look at it as multiple separate fields of unfairness were all at the mercy of;
People being born inherently better looking than you
People being born inherently wealthier/richer than you
People being born inherently more intelligent than you
People being born inherently more talented than you
Etc, etc, etc
Really its all just one big thing, one category of unfairness if you look at it with the right perspective:
PEOPLE BEING BORN WITH MORE RESOURCES THAN YOU
Everything in life is about resources, when you look at all these things as resources, instead of separating them and treating them as categories apart from each other, it paints a simpler picture that is very consistent and much easier to understand.
Sex is nice and all, but it will never be the same as haivng sex with someone you truly love and who loves you back
escorting is still better than supporting foids like belle delphine
at least you get to fuck something for the money you waste
at least you get to fuck something for the money you waste
Primal value is what brings primal satisfaction.Only way escorts have been able to give pleasure is if you'er like an epstein/ multibillionaire type who can literally order the life and death of an entire town/city under the table. Abstract tyranny. In fact its amazing because it makes you feel like life can suck your dick even though you're not doing it the natural way. Makes you feel more almighty.
[Hard To Swallow Edition] - It Is Contradictory To Value "Female Validation" Whilst Simultaneously Devaluing Females Themselves
This is something that needs to be addressed, I'm seeing a lot of blue pilled posts against paying for sex, and the most frustrating part isn't their refusal, its the blatant contradiction in their arguments and their mindset, that female validation means more to them than sex, while at the same...
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I've read it already, but I can't turn off basic needs. Validation & love is one of them.[Hard To Swallow Edition] - It Is Contradictory To Value "Female Validation" Whilst Simultaneously Devaluing Females Themselves
This is something that needs to be addressed, I'm seeing a lot of blue pilled posts against paying for sex, and the most frustrating part isn't their refusal, its the blatant contradiction in their arguments and their mindset, that female validation means more to them than sex, while at the same...
It's better than therapy ngl
I'm waiting for the point where incels are denied access to escorts
some escorts in my country are literally picky as fuck and they're getting backlash for it
i did an experiment i called some escorts and told them i'm 168-165 cm in height or that my dick is 10-12 cm
most of them hung up, it's over for polandcels
Which is ironic cause you'd think that a small dick makes their job easier but they can't override their female instincts of denying incels sex
[Hard To Swallow Edition] Your Desire For "Genuine" "Love" & "Affection" Is Socialized NOT Biological
I seriously think this mindset I see so many men expressing is due to socializing, masculinity itself has been feminized, and that's the trick of it all, all men are going around telling themselves - "this is what a man wants" based on the standard of masculinity they were raised and socialized...
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Also you can't really complain about hypergamy then in a "justified" manner because women can just argue "muh basic needs" too, either way you guys are confusing socialization for biology, if men crave love and validation, how come the past generations were so easily able to live without it, and simply take what they want rather than seek validation? (do you ever ask yourself this)
Where was the male craving for love and validation during these periods?
Truth is humans adapt and humans can be manipulated, what you think you want innately is nothing but what you were thought to chase after since birth, born in another era and you'd marry a woman for political reasons and care less if she "loved you" so long as she was faithful and bore healthy offspring
The entire point of the black pill is being self aware of yourself, the world and how it works, whats the point of leaving half of the blinders up because it makes you "feel human", that's really what most of you are doing tbh
No you low-IQ idiot. Escorts need to book their sessions and generally don't have time to waste with immature callers.
Never be enough to fill me up
sorry for not being a cuck, but i don't use escorts, also i was telling them that any of their workhours would be good for me
also our escorts literally close the door if the guy is bad looking, that has happened to a lot of people, so it doesn't matter that they hung up, if they saw a manlet they would fucking slam the door at the speed of light
WTF do these twats expect, a Chad?? The reason a guy is willing to pay a prostitute in the first place is because he can't get sex for free because he's ugly.
JFL JFL JFL if you still believe in love.
You can call it the evolved biological response to attractive males that makes a foid do anything to please them, ultimately for her own selfish biological drive of piggy backing her genes on his, but that does not make experiencing it any less satisfying. Or not experiencing it excruciating in my case.
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