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Why don't we just all cry tbh.

Old Ironsides

Old Ironsides

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There's no reason why we don't cry. It won't help us and our situation is already beyond terrible if they make fun of us.
it's already so over so why even bother caring with shit anymore man...
IRONSIDESavi

Cry blood like I do.
 
No crying for your FACE.
 
I cry rarely, its always involuntary(no pun intended)
 
cried all the tears already long long ago. no longer feels all that good. screaming, raging, anger are more statisfying by now
 
Who says i don't ?
 
imagine crying into the arms of a Stacy
Foids, especially Stacies don't respect men who cry in their presence. Not that a foid ever respected me in the first place.

It would be better to cry in the arms of a goth dom mommy gf, if at all.
 
Can't. No tears come out anymore lmao
 
fuck crying I’m too much of an abused dog to cry.
 
My eyes dried up mango. The tank is empty
 
cried all the tears already long long ago. no longer feels all that good. screaming, raging, anger are more statisfying by now
Are you involuntarily celibate because of your looks?
Out of curiosity, how would you rate your looks from 1-10?
 
Are you involuntarily celibate because of your looks?
Out of curiosity, how would you rate your looks from 1-10?
~3.5/10

I'm pretty sure if you removed my aspergers/ASD from the equation I would have ascended at some point. I was an outsider from the moment I set a foot into elementary school. Or even before that, I would run away from the kindergarden / pre-school because I couldn't stand the other children.

By the time puberty came around I was a social outcast positioned towards the very bottom of the hierachy. I was also mentally damaged by what going to school each day did to me. And it only got worse, much worse, after that. With puberty the demands on social skills increased and it was not feasible for me to somehow pretend like I could keep up with my peers.

I left school after more than a decade of bullying without finishing it despite the intellectual demands for doing so being an absolute joke. I really wanted to finish because I still had ambitions at the time but continuing on the same path might have let to me either killing myself or going mental.

I did spend some time institutionalised during this. It was good they had bars in front of their windows because without my PC to cope with and alone with all my misery I genuinely wanted to die while I was in there. And I did try to escape once. I even got through one of their security doors by sitting next to it and dropping a penny when someone came and went. When the doors closed it made a loud clunk! but the woman didn't notice or care, there was frequent noise in there because patients were prone to throwing or dropping things. But around the corner was a second door and I obviously couldn't sit there and drop another penny so I went back inside.

I begged my parents crying and on my knees to take me out mutiple times and sonner or later they agreed. I will never forgive them for putting me in there in the first place. They had never managed to help we with any of my problems, my father had actively made them worse, he was the reason I couldn't relax at home and hid in my room most of the time.

My mother was loving, but unwilling to take responsibility or plan ahead. She just let things happen as they came. And her way of "supporting" me when I complained that I didn't fit in was to either deny the problem "everyone goes through that at your age" or pretend like it wasn't my fault, "the other kids are just stupid / immature". I was basically my own parent, no one else would worry about the future and make sure things didn't go horribly wrong. But I was too young and inexperienced to make good desicions, so that didn't work neither.

My mother would be the kind of person to present and obese boy trying to lose weight a cookie and sweet milk when he was getting really emotional while dieting. She might say something like "oh it's ok, just take them now, just this once, you can start eating healthier tomorrow". She wants to make her child happy but with no regards to long-term consequences. If my father was indifferend to anything going on with me, my mother was unable to take some distance and see anything other than my emotional state in the here and now.

I think if I make some money and get some surgeries I might get into 4-5/10 territory, assuming they go well and I don't end up looking uglier than I did before. But my autism won't go away and I have found it impossible to communicate with girls all my life. And I don't mean I can't talk to them, I have overcome much of my innate shyness by now, but I struggle to play the social games that are part of dating and flirting and small talk and so on.

The kind of social interaction I enjoy most, which is information-dense one-on-one talks about something interesting, seem to repel women outright. They are interested in people more than things or facts and like to socialise for it's own sake. I can sometimes pretend to be normal for long enough to get make a female aquaintance, but it always falls apart sooner rather than later. And it's extremly taxing on the mind, I'm masking extra hard while I talk to women, there is basically nothing left of my real self involved in the interaction. It's not something I could keep up even for a few weeks, let alone over the duration of a long-term relationship. It's also why I'm a bit worried abotu SEAmaxxing. Over the langage barrier communication will be even more difficult and even more based on body language and things like shared situational humor.

Guess that was a bit more than you asked for, but I felt like venting a bit after I started writing.
 
~3.5/10

I'm pretty sure if you removed my aspergers/ASD from the equation I would have ascended at some point. I was an outsider from the moment I set a foot into elementary school. Or even before that, I would run away from the kindergarden / pre-school because I couldn't stand the other children.

By the time puberty came around I was a social outcast positioned towards the very bottom of the hierachy. I was also mentally damaged by what going to school each day did to me. And it only got worse, much worse, after that. With puberty the demands on social skills increased and it was not feasible for me to somehow pretend like I could keep up with my peers.

I left school after more than a decade of bullying without finishing it despite the intellectual demands for doing so being an absolute joke. I really wanted to finish because I still had ambitions at the time but continuing on the same path might have let to me either killing myself or going mental.

I did spend some time institutionalised during this. It was good they had bars in front of their windows because without my PC to cope with and alone with all my misery I genuinely wanted to die while I was in there. And I did try to escape once. I even got through one of their security doors by sitting next to it and dropping a penny when someone came and went. When the doors closed it made a loud clunk! but the woman didn't notice or care, there was frequent noise in there because patients were prone to throwing or dropping things. But around the corner was a second door and I obviously couldn't sit there and drop another penny so I went back inside.

I begged my parents crying and on my knees to take me out mutiple times and sonner or later they agreed. I will never forgive them for putting me in there in the first place. They had never managed to help we with any of my problems, my father had actively made them worse, he was the reason I couldn't relax at home and hid in my room most of the time.

My mother was loving, but unwilling to take responsibility or plan ahead. She just let things happen as they came. And her way of "supporting" me when I complained that I didn't fit in was to either deny the problem "everyone goes through that at your age" or pretend like it wasn't my fault, "the other kids are just stupid / immature". I was basically my own parent, no one else would worry about the future and make sure things didn't go horribly wrong. But I was too young and inexperienced to make good desicions, so that didn't work neither.

My mother would be the kind of person to present and obese boy trying to lose weight a cookie and sweet milk when he was getting really emotional while dieting. She might say something like "oh it's ok, just take them now, just this once, you can start eating healthier tomorrow". She wants to make her child happy but with no regards to long-term consequences. If my father was indifferend to anything going on with me, my mother was unable to take some distance and see anything other than my emotional state in the here and now.

I think if I make some money and get some surgeries I might get into 4-5/10 territory, assuming they go well and I don't end up looking uglier than I did before. But my autism won't go away and I have found it impossible to communicate with girls all my life. And I don't mean I can't talk to them, I have overcome much of my innate shyness by now, but I struggle to play the social games that are part of dating and flirting and small talk and so on.

The kind of social interaction I enjoy most, which is information-dense one-on-one talks about something interesting, seem to repel women outright. They are interested in people more than things or facts and like to socialise for it's own sake. I can sometimes pretend to be normal for long enough to get make a female aquaintance, but it always falls apart sooner rather than later. And it's extremly taxing on the mind, I'm masking extra hard while I talk to women, there is basically nothing left of my real self involved in the interaction. It's not something I could keep up even for a few weeks, let alone over the duration of a long-term relationship. It's also why I'm a bit worried abotu SEAmaxxing. Over the langage barrier communication will be even more difficult and even more based on body language and things like shared situational humor.

Guess that was a bit more than you asked for, but I felt like venting a bit after I started writing.
That is a very Interesting story. By the way, I wouldn't recommend that you get plastic surgery because they are too expensive, the surgery may be botched, there is also a possibility of you dying during or after surgery, and even if the surgery works, it won't make women feel more attracted to you, they probably wont even notice. If you cannot attract women in your own country, then seamaxxing is your last option, but as you said, you have no intention of doing so.
 
~3.5/10

I'm pretty sure if you removed my aspergers/ASD from the equation I would have ascended at some point. I was an outsider from the moment I set a foot into elementary school. Or even before that, I would run away from the kindergarden / pre-school because I couldn't stand the other children.

By the time puberty came around I was a social outcast positioned towards the very bottom of the hierachy. I was also mentally damaged by what going to school each day did to me. And it only got worse, much worse, after that. With puberty the demands on social skills increased and it was not feasible for me to somehow pretend like I could keep up with my peers.

I left school after more than a decade of bullying without finishing it despite the intellectual demands for doing so being an absolute joke. I really wanted to finish because I still had ambitions at the time but continuing on the same path might have let to me either killing myself or going mental.

I did spend some time institutionalised during this. It was good they had bars in front of their windows because without my PC to cope with and alone with all my misery I genuinely wanted to die while I was in there. And I did try to escape once. I even got through one of their security doors by sitting next to it and dropping a penny when someone came and went. When the doors closed it made a loud clunk! but the woman didn't notice or care, there was frequent noise in there because patients were prone to throwing or dropping things. But around the corner was a second door and I obviously couldn't sit there and drop another penny so I went back inside.

I begged my parents crying and on my knees to take me out mutiple times and sonner or later they agreed. I will never forgive them for putting me in there in the first place. They had never managed to help we with any of my problems, my father had actively made them worse, he was the reason I couldn't relax at home and hid in my room most of the time.

My mother was loving, but unwilling to take responsibility or plan ahead. She just let things happen as they came. And her way of "supporting" me when I complained that I didn't fit in was to either deny the problem "everyone goes through that at your age" or pretend like it wasn't my fault, "the other kids are just stupid / immature". I was basically my own parent, no one else would worry about the future and make sure things didn't go horribly wrong. But I was too young and inexperienced to make good desicions, so that didn't work neither.

My mother would be the kind of person to present and obese boy trying to lose weight a cookie and sweet milk when he was getting really emotional while dieting. She might say something like "oh it's ok, just take them now, just this once, you can start eating healthier tomorrow". She wants to make her child happy but with no regards to long-term consequences. If my father was indifferend to anything going on with me, my mother was unable to take some distance and see anything other than my emotional state in the here and now.

I think if I make some money and get some surgeries I might get into 4-5/10 territory, assuming they go well and I don't end up looking uglier than I did before. But my autism won't go away and I have found it impossible to communicate with girls all my life. And I don't mean I can't talk to them, I have overcome much of my innate shyness by now, but I struggle to play the social games that are part of dating and flirting and small talk and so on.

The kind of social interaction I enjoy most, which is information-dense one-on-one talks about something interesting, seem to repel women outright. They are interested in people more than things or facts and like to socialise for it's own sake. I can sometimes pretend to be normal for long enough to get make a female aquaintance, but it always falls apart sooner rather than later. And it's extremly taxing on the mind, I'm masking extra hard while I talk to women, there is basically nothing left of my real self involved in the interaction. It's not something I could keep up even for a few weeks, let alone over the duration of a long-term relationship. It's also why I'm a bit worried abotu SEAmaxxing. Over the langage barrier communication will be even more difficult and even more based on body language and things like shared situational humor.

Guess that was a bit more than you asked for, but I felt like venting a bit after I started writing.
Every word. That's brutal.

I was an outsider from the moment I set a foot into elementary school.
I struggle to play the social games that are part of dating and flirting and small talk and so on.
These struck close to home.
 
That is a very Interesting story. By the way, I wouldn't recommend that you get plastic surgery because they are too expensive, the surgery may be botched, there is also a possibility of you dying during or after surgery, and even if the surgery works, it won't make women feel more attracted to you, they probably wont even notice. If you cannot attract women in your own country, then seamaxxing is your last option, but as you said, you have no intention of doing so.
Some Ops are low risk high reward. Like hair transplants. I will definitly get one of those for example. There are some other ones I'm considering, but I wouldn't go for one of the higher risk options.

And while I currently have no plan of going to asia I am by no means excluding it as an option. I'm worried that my autism will combine with the language barrier to make communication a complete desaster but I won't know until I try.
 
Every word. That's brutal.



These struck close to home.
Think many of the elements in there are common amongst male autist on here and in general. If you're an autist you better have some wealthy, smart upper-class parents who get you diagnosed early or who help you compensate by putting you in some specific schools or therapy early. The type of thearpy were they teach you how to pretend to be normal, like for how long to keep eye contact and stuff like that.

I'm not sure who has it better in terms of getting a relationship, someone NT but really ugly or and autist whos kind of ugly. Data seems to suggest these type of mental anomalies have a huge impact on partner count and fertility, but dating apps focus more on looks and the new generation is more used to the idea of autistic behavior. So who knows.

I'm very thankful I'm not a 1-2/10 truecel, I think that is on average an even worse fate than what I went through. Or an equally bad faith with less hope for the future.

My life was exceptionally miserable anyways. Constant isolation, mobbing, humiliation, shame. Years completely alone with everyone around you either indifferend or against you. Trying to fit in, always failing, until you stop trying and just sit still and take the abuse. Wait till the hours pass and you can go home again. No sleep because sleep reduces the hours you spend awake and away from school and increases the hours concious at school. Instead, sleeping for 1-3 hours each night and then almost passing out in school, barely awake to the extent that it's physically painful to keep your eyes open. Easier to ignore everything when your entire attention is just on staying awake and sitting upright.
 
Think many of the elements in there are common amongst male autist on here and in general. If you're an autist you better have some wealthy, smart upper-class parents who get you diagnosed early or who help you compensate by putting you in some specific schools or therapy early. The type of thearpy were they teach you how to pretend to be normal, like for how long to keep eye contact and stuff like that.
I'm one of the guys lucky enough for this to be the case (kind of). From K-6, I went to a private catholic school. It was one of the schools with small class sizes, and teachers that actually know all the students. I was still an outsider, but it wasn't that bad. We were always closely monitored, and the kids were fairly nice, meaning I was almost never bullied. After that I was home-schooled for 7 & 8th grade.

I don't know why the kids were nicer at the catholic school (compared to public high school). It might have to do with better parenting, or maybe higher average intelligence. It also could be the smaller class sizes preventing some of the usual tribalism from forming.

My life was exceptionally miserable anyways. Constant isolation, mobbing, humiliation, shame. Years completely alone with everyone around you either indifferend or against you. Trying to fit in, always failing, until you stop trying and just sit still and take the abuse. Wait till the hours pass and you can go home again. No sleep because sleep reduces the hours you spend awake and away from school and increases the hours concious at school. Instead, sleeping for 1-3 hours each night and then almost passing out in school, barely awake to the extent that it's physically painful to keep your eyes open. Easier to ignore everything when your entire attention is just on staying awake and sitting upright.
That's brutal. Sleep has always been one of my biggest copes. On days where I don't have to get up for anything, I'll stay in bed for 10-12 hours.
 
I'm one of the guys lucky enough for this to be the case (kind of). From K-6, I went to a private catholic school. It was one of the schools with small class sizes, and teachers that actually know all the students. I was still an outsider, but it wasn't that bad. We were always closely monitored, and the kids were fairly nice, meaning I was almost never bullied. After that I was home-schooled for 7 & 8th grade.

I don't know why the kids were nicer at the catholic school (compared to public high school). It might have to do with better parenting, or maybe higher average intelligence. It also could be the smaller class sizes preventing some of the usual tribalism from forming.
I had the same experience when I was at a school with an religious tilt for a short period. The kids were far kinder and more welcoming, though I remained an outsider. Outside of higher class => higher IQ parents & children there was also a fundamental difference in the attitude and socialisation. There was a concious focus on being kind and helpful to others and the teachers were caring towards their students in a way I never experienced again in other schools.

That's brutal. Sleep has always been one of my biggest copes. On days where I don't have to get up for anything, I'll stay in bed for 10-12 hours.
I did catch up on that sleep deficit once I had left school. When I felt intensely depressed I would sometimes just stay in bed for an entire day or longer, just daydreaming about the life I would have wanted to have. But today I am a bit more motivated / under pressure to do something because
AI8
 
I had the same experience when I was at a school with an religious tilt for a short period. The kids were far kinder and more welcoming, though I remained an outsider. Outside of higher class => higher IQ parents & children there was also a fundamental difference in the attitude and socialisation. There was a concious focus on being kind and helpful to others and the teachers were caring towards their students in a way I never experienced again in other schools.
Interesting to hear that you experienced the same thing. I'm definitely thankful my parents spent the money for me to go there. I agree with what you said about the focus towards being kind and helpful; I haven't experienced the same social environment anywhere since.

Another thing I didn't think of before is the lack of divorced parents. I guess that falls under "better parenting" though.

I did catch up on that sleep deficit once I had left school. When I felt intensely depressed I would sometimes just stay in bed for an entire day or longer, just daydreaming about the life I would have wanted to have. But today I am a bit more motivated / under pressure to do something because
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My personal opinion leans away from the idea that AI will cause human extinction. In the end, it's just a special kind of computer program trained to do a specific thing. It's ability to interact with the world is entirely constrained by the people who make the program, which applies to any program.
 
I cry when after I prayed to God recently
 
I've teard up in bed a few times over my predicament
 
My personal opinion leans away from the idea that AI will cause human extinction. In the end, it's just a special kind of computer program trained to do a specific thing. It's ability to interact with the world is entirely constrained by the people who make the program, which applies to any program.
N O P E . Not even close.
Not getting into this now, but one of my first threads on here was about AI.


Human brains are "just" a special kind of information processing machine. And AI is not trained to do specific things, the whole point of AI is that it teaches itself things we did not train it to do expliticly. We need interpretability tools to try to understand what the AI has taught itself after it finished training because the people who wrote the code don't know and can't easily tell. Not to be overly aggressive, but your perspective on this signals strongly that you have not read anything worthwhile on the topic and are mostly judging based on your own intuition.
 
N O P E . Not even close.
Not getting into this now, but one of my first threads on here was about AI.


Human brains are "just" a special kind of information processing machine. And AI is not trained to do specific things, the whole point of AI is that it teaches itself things we did not train it to do expliticly. We need interpretability tools to try to understand what the AI has taught itself after it finished training because the people who wrote the code don't know and can't easily tell. Not to be overly aggressive, but your perspective on this signals strongly that you have not read anything worthwhile on the topic and are mostly judging based on your own intuition.
I disagree. I also can't get into it right now because I have uni hw to do, but I'll leave a couple points.

Yes, human brains and AI are very similar. Just like AI, our brains have been trained over a long period of time to do very specific things very well, such as facial recognition.
But the point about AI teaching itself things we didn't explicitly train it to do isn't really accurate. We might give it a very large dataset, or perhaps a goal to reach (for which the successor function has to be defined by us), and it learns to do that specific thing. Multipurpose AI also has to be trained in that way. We do need tools to determine what the AI taught itself, but that applies to anything on a computer. For example, we need a de-compiler to tell us what some machine code does.

Don't take this as an argument from authority, but I am one semester away from a degree in CS, plus I've taken a class about AI. When you really get down to the code level, AI suddenly seems much less magical. It's very hard to create a good AI, and to do so you really have to focus on solving a specific problem.
 
I disagree. I also can't get into it right now because I have uni hw to do, but I'll leave a couple points.

Yes, human brains and AI are very similar. Just like AI, our brains have been trained over a long period of time to do very specific things very well, such as facial recognition.
But the point about AI teaching itself things we didn't explicitly train it to do isn't really accurate. We might give it a very large dataset, or perhaps a goal to reach (for which the successor function has to be defined by us), and it learns to do that specific thing. Multipurpose AI also has to be trained in that way. We do need tools to determine what the AI taught itself, but that applies to anything on a computer. For example, we need a de-compiler to tell us what some machine code does.

Don't take this as an argument from authority, but I am one semester away from a degree in CS, plus I've taken a class about AI. When you really get down to the code level, AI suddenly seems much less magical. It's very hard to create a good AI, and to do so you really have to focus on solving a specific problem.
urgh
 
Well whatever.

Code an AI game agent or something from scratch (no ML libraries like PyTorch) then get back to me. You’re a smart guy, but you’re experiencing heavy dunning Kruger with regard to this topic.
 
Well whatever.

Code an AI game agent or something from scratch (no ML libraries like PyTorch) then get back to me. You’re a smart guy, but you’re experiencing heavy dunning Kruger with regard to this topic.
Dunning kruger is a statistical artifact.


The second you show some vulnerability by making an exceptional claim people see an opportunity to establish their intellectual superiority. The idea that maybe the person you thought had a respectable thinking pattern up till now could know something you don't is not worth considering. I'm sick of having this same debate every time. Think what you want. I no longer care to bring some civilisation to you heathens.
 
Dunning kruger is a statistical artifact.


The second you show some vulnerability by making an exceptional claim people see an opportunity to establish their intellectual superiority. The idea that maybe the person you thought had a respectable thinking pattern up till now could know something you don't is not worth considering. I'm sick of having this same debate every time. Think what you want. I no longer care to bring some civilisation to you heathens.
Well, I was being very kind and moderate, but I guess I'll have to say it outright.

What you've said about AI (both here and in the thread you linked) shows without a doubt that you've never programmed a single thing in your life. Regardless of how the dunning kruger theory plays out in statistics, it definitionally applies here; you believe you're an expert on a topic you know very little about.

If you genuinely want to learn, Berkley made their 'Intro to AI" course public a while ago. Many colleges now use it, and it's entirely in Python, which is extremely easy to learn. Here is the link: https://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs188/fa23/
Given your interest in the topic, I recommend you actually take a look. It's a good course.

I never said I was the intellectual superior, but without you having even the slightest idea of how ML algorithms work there's truly no point to this discussion.
 
I had the same experience when I was at a school with an religious tilt for a short period. The kids were far kinder and more welcoming, though I remained an outsider. Outside of higher class => higher IQ parents & children there was also a fundamental difference in the attitude and socialisation. There was a concious focus on being kind and helpful to others and the teachers were caring towards their students in a way I never experienced again in other schools.


I did catch up on that sleep deficit once I had left school. When I felt intensely depressed I would sometimes just stay in bed for an entire day or longer, just daydreaming about the life I would have wanted to have. But today I am a bit more motivated / under pressure to do something because
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That organic is right. Ai. Is right where I am. Pure entropy. The woman are the most organic I've ever seen. They will die. Everyone in this comment section will die.
 
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