Poll.
Since your other thread about pascal's wager I had a panic attack about the unending suffering I will experience after this unending suffering. Thanks.
Yeah, sorry about that. The Pascal's Wager pill is terrible.
God is a prick. I'll punch him in a face
There's so much shit in the world that could all be very easily be explained away by God not existing. Believers in God have the immense task of explaining why pain and suffering exist, and why a supposedly just God would allow these things. I think it's reasonable to conclude, by Occam's razor, that there is a higher likelihood that God doesn't exist than that he does. Although, there are some interesting arguments which I'm not sure have been dealt with adequately on the atheistic side, such as the transcendental argument
If God is real, unfortunately he will have overwhelming power over you.
It's funny, I too also imagine God playing around with the Oblivion character creation screen. With me He must have said "lol poor guy" when he clicked on OK.
He fucked me up when he created me and said , Adoring fan you are born to fail...
Nature is the creation of Satan.
There is a parasitoid wasp family, the ichneumonidae, that reproduces by injecting their eggs directly into their host's body. Then, after hatching, the ichneumonid larva eats its host alive. The cruelty of the ichneumonidae troubled various 19th century figures, the most prominent among them probably Charles Darwin, and contributed to their increasing doubts about the nature and the existence of a creator god. ("The beauty of creation speaks of the majestic beauty of the believer's God. He worships the Lord in the beauty of holiness. Examining creation brings him to praise and submit to his Creator." - John Calvin)
So if anything, the world is the creation of Satan. /pol/ can tip their MAGA hats as much as they like, but Richard Dawkins was absolutely right when he wrote:
"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is."
This is so true. Karma isn't a bitch. Or rather: Karma is a bitch at times and to some only. "Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night." Jesus said, "Consider the birds" and yeah - consider the animals:
That nature must be the creation of Satan is not only evident by the fact that there is always more agony than pleasure in this universe (with the agony of the devoured animal always far greater than the short-lived pleasure of the feasting animal - which was Schopenhauer's example against the Christian god), but also because all organisms invariably produce more offspring than survive, since Mother Nature, as we so laughingly call her, is following a "better safe than sorry" approach by creating an offspring surplus, fully “aware” of the fact that not everyone and -thing will make it anyway. This is actually my favorite example. That "mother nature" always aims for an offspring SURPLUS and also aims for more that could actually survive ... because it's clear that not everyone will survive anyway...
By the way, nature being the creation of Satan is one of the reasons why I would never be "pro-Incel" per se. After all, there will always and inevitably be a number of people who are physically, mentally, intellectually too crippled to consensually enjoy sexuality with others even in the most utopian society. Some of them will then experience hostility towards other people’s happiness and desire to spoil the sexual bliss of others. I would never argue for simply giving in to these people. There’s a difference between supporting stability, fidelity and monogamy and outright hostility to sexuality as in feminism or religious conservatism. The problem today is that mostly due to hypergamy and female hive-mind-mentality there is now a SURGE of inceldom up to a point that will tear apart the social fabric that no high culture and civilization will be possible anymore. It will be regression back into stone age mating patterns or maybe some sort of matriarchy where buffed up buffoons dance around the uterus like in some primitive African societies.
((As a sidenote: it's noteworthy how much right-wing racists hate atheism and evolution. This is just more evidence that racism is not about >muh SCIENCE but fulfills a mythological and ideological function. In theory, racism is, of course, compatible with an evolutionary world view, but the vast majority of racists share this deep hostility towards atheism and evolution. The moment /pol/ turned from libertarian to alt-right was the moment they turned against atheism and towards Christianity or Varg Vikernes instead.))
There is a parasitoid wasp family, the ichneumonidae, that reproduces by injecting their eggs directly into their host's body. Then, after hatching, the ichneumonid larva eats its host alive. The cruelty of the ichneumonidae troubled various 19th century figures, the most prominent among them probably Charles Darwin, and contributed to their increasing doubts about the nature and the existence of a creator god. ("The beauty of creation speaks of the majestic beauty of the believer's God. He worships the Lord in the beauty of holiness. Examining creation brings him to praise and submit to his Creator." - John Calvin)
So if anything, the world is the creation of Satan. /pol/ can tip their MAGA hats as much as they like, but Richard Dawkins was absolutely right when he wrote:
"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is."
This is so true. Karma isn't a bitch. Or rather: Karma is a bitch at times and to some only. "Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night." Jesus said, "Consider the birds" and yeah - consider the animals:
That nature must be the creation of Satan is not only evident by the fact that there is always more agony than pleasure in this universe (with the agony of the devoured animal always far greater than the short-lived pleasure of the feasting animal - which was Schopenhauer's example against the Christian god), but also because all organisms invariably produce more offspring than survive, since Mother Nature, as we so laughingly call her, is following a "better safe than sorry" approach by creating an offspring surplus, fully “aware” of the fact that not everyone and -thing will make it anyway. This is actually my favorite example. That "mother nature" always aims for an offspring SURPLUS and also aims for more that could actually survive ... because it's clear that not everyone will survive anyway...
By the way, nature being the creation of Satan is one of the reasons why I would never be "pro-Incel" per se. After all, there will always and inevitably be a number of people who are physically, mentally, intellectually too crippled to consensually enjoy sexuality with others even in the most utopian society. Some of them will then experience hostility towards other people’s happiness and desire to spoil the sexual bliss of others. I would never argue for simply giving in to these people. There’s a difference between supporting stability, fidelity and monogamy and outright hostility to sexuality as in feminism or religious conservatism. The problem today is that mostly due to hypergamy and female hive-mind-mentality there is now a SURGE of inceldom up to a point that will tear apart the social fabric that no high culture and civilization will be possible anymore. It will be regression back into stone age mating patterns or maybe some sort of matriarchy where buffed up buffoons dance around the uterus like in some primitive African societies.
((As a sidenote: it's noteworthy how much right-wing racists hate atheism and evolution. This is just more evidence that racism is not about >muh SCIENCE but fulfills a mythological and ideological function. In theory, racism is, of course, compatible with an evolutionary world view, but the vast majority of racists share this deep hostility towards atheism and evolution. The moment /pol/ turned from libertarian to alt-right was the moment they turned against atheism and towards Christianity or Varg Vikernes instead.))
I don't think God exists tbh.
Every species has good and bad & we are only here to represent the bottom end of our species. Normies and chads are as such because we are here to contrast them. Its a shame that it has to be this competitive. I wish that we could live in harmony together like other species such as ants and shit but we are just too complex unfortunately
The Soto Zen sect used to preach that ugliness may be the result of ritual impurities:
https://thezensite.com/ZenEssays/CriticalZen/ZenandReligiousPrejudice.pdf
https://thezensite.com/ZenEssays/CriticalZen/ZenandReligiousPrejudice.pdf
Extremely interesting link, thank youThe Soto Zen sect used to preach that ugliness may be the result of ritual impurities:
https://thezensite.com/ZenEssays/CriticalZen/ZenandReligiousPrejudice.pdf
God doesn't exists and Pascal Wager is stupid. If you "believe" in God only because you don't want go to hell, why do you think he doesn't know your motivation? He is all powerful, all knowing and yet he will let some asshole into the Heaven just because he outsmarted God? Watch movies like Angel Heart(awesome movie btw) - humans can't even outsmart Satan.
And there's even bigger problem. If you want to outsmart god, then which one do you pick? Humans created tons of them. Isn't atheist wager better? If there is god, and you pick wrong god/religion to worship then wouldn't he be more hateful towards you, than if you simply don't believe in any of them? Pascal wager is something extremely low iq, lower iq than guys telling 'you shower and get a haircut and you will find a girl'
And there's even bigger problem. If you want to outsmart god, then which one do you pick? Humans created tons of them. Isn't atheist wager better? If there is god, and you pick wrong god/religion to worship then wouldn't he be more hateful towards you, than if you simply don't believe in any of them? Pascal wager is something extremely low iq, lower iq than guys telling 'you shower and get a haircut and you will find a girl'
God doesn't exist. Or if he does exist, he's the equivalent of an autistic and sadistic 13 year old kid playing the sims or roller coaster tycoon
It's perfectly okay in Christianity to believe in God out of fear. The very fact that you fear Hell means you have accepted the possibility of God, and hence "believe" (it's a soft belief admittedly). In fact, Christianity spread essentially through violence and blackmail across history.
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Well, there are no ugly humans, it's just that women prefer extreme symmetry in the industrial age
Assuming he's real, the answer would be free will: women choosing to breed with ugly betabux and women delaying having kids until their mid 30's -- the longer you wait, the uglier the kids may turn out, apparently. My mother was in her late 30's when see had me, plus drank, smoked and ate junk food.
Amusement, experiment, boredom, punishment, evil, rng indifference.
Simple, because there is no god, and it there was he wouldn't make an imperfect world.
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It is wrong stated question. Let's assume that god creates only beautiful people. Women in this case will find some factors that will differentiate 80% from top 20%. Better question is why god created hypergamy. Answer is:
a) there is no god and evolution did it
b) god is total prick
a) there is no god and evolution did it
b) god is total prick
It's all genetics and how much a person has taken drugs and abused their body. That's what creates ugly creatures.
Things much worse than ugliness exist, diseases that cause both ugliness and torturous pain like that fucked up skin disease I forgot the name.
Nature/biology controls the world and biology is basically the devil. Unfairness, torture, pointless suffering, competition, toiling, lust, being deceived by attractive forms, rewards for evil acts, death.
(Should have made votes visible tbh).
Nature/biology controls the world and biology is basically the devil. Unfairness, torture, pointless suffering, competition, toiling, lust, being deceived by attractive forms, rewards for evil acts, death.
(Should have made votes visible tbh).
no wonder you are aspies... a bunch of atheists
you cannot enjoy the sweetness of life without pain and suffering
That is a lie - children are generally very happy even though they haven't experienced actual suffering yet.
Theodicees are intellectual scams. Voltaire destroyed them in the XVIIth century.
believing in god is cope
Extremely high IQ post, but tbh, even the most privileged people/creatures suffer, decay and die. This life is nothing but suffering, the difference between one being and another is quantitative and not qualitative. One lives more, another lives less; one suffers more, another suffers less. But all live, suffer and die.
give a poor ethiopian man $10,000 and he is the happiest man within 50 km radius whilst it is worth nothing to a rich white man
You cant be this stupid
God is satan, they are the same person
I'm inclined to believe God appreciates physical beauty but also gives higher priority to the internal, "But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart." David was physically inferior to all his Chad brothers yet God chose him to become a king.
theres no god. religions = cope
ugly humans are the work of the devil
God doesn’t exist and even if he did he wouldn’t “make ugly people” its the combination of a random sperm and egg which have a set of phenotypes that determine appearance. Some may turn out like Chad, some like normies, and others as incels. It’s totaly up to chance and the only way to improve your odd is to have good looking parents and even that’s not a guarantee that you won’t end up fucked. That’s why we call it the genetic lottery
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God might exist, but is not responsible for the looks of humans, that is just the absurd nature that does its bussiness.
God definitely exist. It would be a task of colossal proportions to dispel the fact that Jesus Christ existed. The evidence is overwhelming. Consider that he rose from the dead with thousands of witnesses. Many who sore to the death under roman rule that they saw Jesus Christ in the flesh after the crucifixion. Imagine getting tortured, and killed. Who would die for a lie like that? They were absolutely convinced Jesus rose from the dead to be able to die like that for their perceived truth. There is no incentive to suffer that much for a lie.
God gave man paradise, but to save his wife Adam also ate of the knowledge of good, and evil. Now we have the curse of sin. Yes that means we can even be deformed / ugly. Suffering is a natural part of this world now to the curse of sin.
God suffered under his own creation. Jesus Christ was God incarnate in the flesh. He hungered Hell... Practically starved for 40 days in the desert when he was tempted by Satan to break his fast. Jesus also suffered through a crucifixion, and flogging / being smitten by the fist. Let's not forget the crown of thorns.
God himself suffered agony for man's sake. JESUS NEVER HAD SEX!
I throw this in there because as incels we never have had sex. But God subjected himself to celibacy (VolCel) as a human being.
Also suffering is not 100% bad. Suffering can be good as well. Suffering creates character, and molds a man. If a man suffers due to bad choices in like his actions to escape suffering teach him perseverance, and other qualities.
Edit: I think God allows people to be ugly so that they will be more humble, and have a higher chance of salvation.
God gave man paradise, but to save his wife Adam also ate of the knowledge of good, and evil. Now we have the curse of sin. Yes that means we can even be deformed / ugly. Suffering is a natural part of this world now to the curse of sin.
God suffered under his own creation. Jesus Christ was God incarnate in the flesh. He hungered Hell... Practically starved for 40 days in the desert when he was tempted by Satan to break his fast. Jesus also suffered through a crucifixion, and flogging / being smitten by the fist. Let's not forget the crown of thorns.
God himself suffered agony for man's sake. JESUS NEVER HAD SEX!
I throw this in there because as incels we never have had sex. But God subjected himself to celibacy (VolCel) as a human being.
Also suffering is not 100% bad. Suffering can be good as well. Suffering creates character, and molds a man. If a man suffers due to bad choices in like his actions to escape suffering teach him perseverance, and other qualities.
Edit: I think God allows people to be ugly so that they will be more humble, and have a higher chance of salvation.
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God don't have enjoyment by this. It is not fun or boring to it. It is a simple coincidence. Humans overthink about it.
We're incels because evil won this fight. The universe is a playfield of good versus evil. The divine source of goodness breathed life into us, but evil corrupted our minds and bodies and made us into what we are. The loneliness and isolation of inceldom is hell on earth.
God didn't make beauty standards.
There most likely is no god and everything is random generated luck or misfortune, depending on what you get
I was brought up in the Christian church from when I was a young boy all the way up until now. Now that I am 25, I no longer have to stick to my faith. My parents pressured me to go as a child. I’ve just never been fully dedicated to being a Christian. I don’t pray outside of church and I haven’t even read the Bible. The only reason I truly go is because I’m involved in music activities there and that I have made acquaintances/friends with some members of the congregation
I realize now that Christianity is not truly helping me in my struggles in life. Atheism to me is just an empty realization that God doesn’t exist and it’s not something I can dedicate my moral principles to. But then I came up with the idea of looking into Satanism and now I am reading about it. I don’t believe in the devil it’s the religious ideas behind it. Maybe I will give that a chance. I feel as if the Devil was a reject in the kingdom of God. He is hated, despised, neglected, undesirable etc. He was kicked out of Heaven for not worshiping God and for deciding he wanted to be a God himself.
I think we may have something in common with this ideology.
I realize now that Christianity is not truly helping me in my struggles in life. Atheism to me is just an empty realization that God doesn’t exist and it’s not something I can dedicate my moral principles to. But then I came up with the idea of looking into Satanism and now I am reading about it. I don’t believe in the devil it’s the religious ideas behind it. Maybe I will give that a chance. I feel as if the Devil was a reject in the kingdom of God. He is hated, despised, neglected, undesirable etc. He was kicked out of Heaven for not worshiping God and for deciding he wanted to be a God himself.
I think we may have something in common with this ideology.
Believing in a merciful, loving god, absolute cope.
Believing that all of this is some kind of creation/simulation - high IQ.
Believing that all of this is some kind of creation/simulation - high IQ.
Jfl at believing in God as unwanted genetic shit. There is no God just this bullshit existence
Allah yok Din yalan
There is no God. We’re all just floating around in space aimlessly trying to find some sense from this chaotic existence.
Are you implying that they are cultural
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