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Serious Why do you think thugmaxxxing appeals over gymmaxxxing?

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A deep psychological question about the neurotypology of women .
I think it ties in with why women like tall men with angular bones rather than short men with muscles.
Hard tissue carries with it a stronger physiological implication. You didn't choose your bones. Your bones were chosen for you from the diceroll of nature which women all watn to master.
Women don't like uptight guys for it implies insecurity.

When you're thugmaxxed you're basically an urban cowboy who is baselessly confident, it's made less certain to work, baseless optimism, neurotypical value to hang with balck guys.
They only like SUCCESSFUL men, with unpredictable means. Not a cluster-hoard of produced value. You basically become like a one dimensional tank if you gymmax. Women only enjoy guys who have superior frame/ face genetics on top of muscle.

I think thugmaxxing shows higher base-value from the person. Basevaluarchy. Something that shows independence
Adptness as well, with being neurotypical, and how that can be charming, funny, interesting, etc.


Basically the rural/ masculine mindsets are gradiented based on environment. And the two main climates would be outdoor based, vs indoor based (being around cities/ infrastructure/ cultures/ etc.)

Redneck culture:
Working out, masculinity maxxxing
Rejecting hipsters, rejecting everything cultured/ civilized.


Thugmaxxing: Funny, astute, knowing culture of hipsters, more mindful, and yet also more acquiesced with where women want to be. Urban masculinity. Makkah. Even if you are well bred, stronger than thugmaxxed witticist, or meathead, you're still not relevant ot most girls.
You need some urbane complexity for that.
I think there are more airs of urbane complexity with thugmaxxers.
 
Thugmaxxing is based in women's delusional conception of status and power. Thugs look powerful but they are all bullshit. They end up in jail or victimising the women that love them. Stockholm syndrome.
 
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It ties in to the same theory that foids like psycho’s. They enjoy being around someone that makes them feel submissive. Being submissive is a comforting state for foids and since hyper aggressive thugmaxx males can induce that feeling in them they are drawn to it.

In short foids like being dominated
 
Gymmaxxing is useless for incels because no one's inceldom is caused by lack of muscles.

Don't know about thugmaxxing, maybe that won't work for incels either. Like is anyone's inceldom caused by not being thuggish enough?

Personality
 
Both don't do shit for SMV
 
Bitches love drama, thugs bring it, bitches want law breakers not law abiders, thug attitude requires you to get competent at fighting otherwise you'll get your ass beat so therefore = perceived high fighting success. Thug mentality is also highly Neurotypical & alpha in terms of not playing by the rules & having zero responsibility.
 
Thugmaxxing is based in women's delusional conception of status and power. Thugs look powerful but they are all bullshit. They end up in jail or optimising the women that love them. Stockholm syndrome.
It ties in to the same theory that foids like psycho’s. They enjoy being around someone that makes them feel submissive. Being submissive is a comforting state for foids and since hyper aggressive thugmaxx males can induce that feeling in them they are drawn to it.

In short foids like being dominated
 
Thugmaxxing: Funny, astute, knowing culture of hipsters, more mindful, and yet also more acquiesced with where women want to be. Urban masculinity.
Do you know many gangbangers or thugs OP?
 
Gymmaxxing is useless for incels because no one's inceldom is caused by lack of muscles.

Don't know about thugmaxxing, maybe that won't work for incels either. Like is anyone's inceldom caused by not being thuggish enough?

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Had this been done by an ugly guy, they'd scream "misogyny". Women's moral compass is driven by looks. They give a free pass to a man's behavior when he's good-looking, but when if he's ugly the treatment will be completely different.
 
With thugmaxxing usually follows gymmaxxing. No one is taking a skinny or fat guy seriously, so youd have to gymmaxx for muscle and such
 
Thugmaxxing is based in women's delusional conception of status and power. Thugs look powerful but they are all bullshit. They end up in jail or victimising the women that love them. Stockholm syndrome.
Newton iq
 
With thugmaxxing usually follows gymmaxxing. No one is taking a skinny or fat guy seriously, so youd have to gymmaxx for muscle and such
yeah but why do you think that having thug value outweighs being a traditional gymmaxer.
 
Gymmaxxing is useless for incels because no one's inceldom is caused by lack of muscles.

Don't know about thugmaxxing, maybe that won't work for incels either. Like is anyone's inceldom caused by not being thuggish enough?

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Thugmax is legit for blacks, the longer your rap ssheet is the more women will want to fuck you

You become a Tyrone once you get a felony on your record
 
Do you know many gangbangers or thugs OP?
some. What I notice is they have edge over traidtional males who gymmax, and are a part of the white dudebrah subculture unless the white dudebrahs have good faces/ frame.
Women tacitly know that black subculture needs wit, charm, charisma, awareness, dominance all simulataneously. Whereas rednecks you can be masculine, and only masculine, and there is no room for anything else. Both suck. Women do want to have more urbane lives though partially for fun/ style/ aesthetic and cucking society.
 
Foids are retarded and animalistic
 
wit, charm, charisma, awareness, dominance
It really doesn't. I'm hispanic, and I can tell you the hoodrats, black or otherwise, I know have little to none of what you are talking about. I have family in the penal system and outside I maintain contact with some felon friends. The vast majority are simply normies with normie sex lives.

Most of them are dumb and violent and know nothing of nuance. Idk about rednecks, but it seems like you are examining this situation via media and societal halo/falo lens and not objectively. Being thugmaxxed means fitting certain expectations/stereotypes that society sets. It is essentially a form of being hyper NT. There is nothing else required from it.
 
One of my violent criminal bullies is exactly like this. Picks the dumbest of foids and gets validation with a stupid facial hair job and basically acting as a low-inhib tough guy despite being a weak weaseling lying little coward.
 
yeah but why do you think that having thug value outweighs being a traditional gymmaxer.
You look threatening, no one is too afraid of a nice muscular guy but a angry muscular thug is threatening
 
It really doesn't. I'm hispanic, and I can tell you the hoodrats, black or otherwise, I know have little to none of what you are talking about. I have family in the penal system and outside I maintain contact with some felon friends. The vast majority are simply normies with normie sex lives.

Most of them are dumb and violent and know nothing of nuance. Idk about rednecks, but it seems like you are examining this situation via media and societal halo/falo lens and not objectively. Being thugmaxxed means fitting certain expectations/stereotypes that society sets. It is essentially a form of being hyper NT. There is nothing else required from it.
I knew redneck boomers. It's amazing how much of the methbath culture out there is hidden from view to most people with an internet connection. People forget a lot of rural america is just a high budget africa.
None of you guys ever lived in the country around bubbas and bubbettes like I had to. And my cousins all got shamed out of being intelligent and only wanted to be as masculine as possible. Boomer culture has only left suburbs, cities, places with internet. And although prgoressivism comes iwth feminism it comes with a few other good things too.

A lot of rednecks are dumbfucktards without nuance. And if you go to ghettos it's not really different but at least some of them are close enough to cities ot meet people who have personality. It being nice and quiet in rural areas is a euphemism for people being flat irritable trailer trash tists.
 

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