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Why do we blame foids more than Chads?

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@Feargin
If your wife cheats on you, who is at fault?

A. The guy who tempted her
B. Your wife

The answer is obvious, its not another man's job to preserve the "sanctity" of your relationship, its the job of the parties involved in said relationship/agreement

The male collective has been betrayed by the female collective, they are accountable for the effect their collective actions has on the dating market, and the men they deem undesirable due to their unrealistic standards

I can never blame the tempter, there will always be temptation, its the job of each individual to resist, its the job of those in an agreement to not violate a contract (in this case the social contract between men and women)

We don't go out and rape, pillage, murder and we have a fair chance to gain access to sex and reproduce, that has always been the contract, its the reason why societies and civilizations were formed to begin with, and that contract is no longer being adhered to BY WOMEN, Chad's aren't violating the contract, they are doing what they always did and were allowed to do, as it didn't matter much because when the contract was being adhered to the average man still had a chance

If women were forced to have realistic standards again, and hypergamy was quelled, Chad's existence would not even matter, he'd get snatched up off of the dating market and that would be it, he would be left to eternally be on the prowl grabbing up other men's future wives, the loss of religion in society led to the loss of enforced monogamy, which is why the dating market is fucked, I'm not even a remotely religious person, but I can say without a doubt religion is the most important social institution EVER

That's why I have some disdain for atheists as a whole, if they had merely just STFU things wouldn't have gotten this bad, but no they just couldn't stop trying to secularize society, congratufuckinglations

Which reminds me of another thread I made

The real issue I feel is that foid mating selection is stuck in 20000 BC, perhaps older. All religion did was put a bandaid on the wound. The wound never healed and was allowed to fester and rot. Foids are simply not designed for modern society. Tinder did something similar. It removed the foolish notions of female sexual individuality. They all want one kind of man. We can prove this now thanks to tinder. Atheism and Tinder showed us the truth, and while the truth is ugly, it can be fixed.

They need to evolve or be replaced.
 
The real issue I feel is that foid mating selection is stuck in 20000 BC, perhaps older. All religion did was put a bandaid on the wound

Can't we say the same about any restriction, aren't laws against murder, theft, etc just bandaids on the wound of the human condition. So I don't see how that is "the real issue", else why stop at female mating selection, we should just rewrite everything in our DNA then that makes us violent, etc, but that's dangerous because those things may be psychologically linked to our will to live, our ingenuity, etc

Your words just seem like an attempt to downplay religion by labelling it a "band aid", why don't you apply the same logic to all laws then, you wouldn't, because you know how dangerous that would be, one could quite literally ruin everything about humanity that makes us human (if we go the genetic engineering route)

Nothing needs to evolve or be replaced, it just needs to be controlled, coerced and threatened, if technology like from the anime psycho pass became a norm, like magic crime would fall to like 2% or something, and in a few years 0%

The moment we go down the road of genetically engineering hypergamy out of existence there's no reason to stop there and scientists won't stop there
 
coz we dont want chads to love us, only foid, i guess its pretty straight logic
 
Because chad's behavior doesn't defy reason. Sure, chad is a massive asshole for being an easy whore and screwing the bottom 80%'s chances, but he is not irrational in doing so.
It's immoral to
This

@Feargin
If your wife cheats on you, who is at fault?

A. The guy who tempted her
B. Your wife

The answer is obvious, its not another man's job to preserve the "sanctity" of your relationship, its the job of the parties involved in said relationship/agreement

The male collective has been betrayed by the female collective, they are accountable for the effect their collective actions has on the dating market, and the men they deem undesirable due to their unrealistic standards

I can never blame the tempter, there will always be temptation, its the job of each individual to resist, its the job of those in an agreement to not violate a contract (in this case the social contract between men and women)

We don't go out and rape, pillage, murder and we have a fair chance to gain access to sex and reproduce, that has always been the contract, its the reason why societies and civilizations were formed to begin with, and that contract is no longer being adhered to BY WOMEN, Chad's aren't violating the contract, they are doing what they always did and were allowed to do, as it didn't matter much because when the contract was being adhered to the average man still had a chance

If women were forced to have realistic standards again, and hypergamy was quelled, Chad's existence would not even matter, he'd get snatched up off of the dating market and that would be it, he wouldn't be left to eternally be on the prowl grabbing up other men's future wives, the loss of religion in society led to the loss of enforced monogamy, which is why the dating market is fucked, I'm not even a remotely religious person, but I can say without a doubt religion is the most important social institution EVER

That's why I have some disdain for atheists as a whole, if they had merely just STFU things wouldn't have gotten this bad, but no they just couldn't stop trying to secularize society, congratufuckinglations

Which reminds me of another thread I made

Actually, if your wife cheated on you in the 19th century you could sue the man she cheated on you with for the costs of the divorce. Are you saying the guy fucking the married woman has no responsibility whatsoever? Temptation goes both ways, Chads can totally choose to not fuck more than 1 woman in their lifetimes so incels can have a chance at a normal life, they just don't want to due to pride and lust.

An appeal to precedent is not an argument. And I don't think it's even true. It was never okay to fuck a woman married to someone else, for example.

I will agree on the atheist part- despite claiming to stand for reason and evidence, atheists have become total tools for progressives. They destroyed the moral framework of religion without replacing it with anything else.
 
Are you saying the guy fucking the married woman has no responsibility whatsoever?

Depends, he's only responsible if he knows she's married, so you have to prove without a doubt he was aware she was married and she wasn't hiding it for him to actually be legitimately responsible, if a guy has a one night stand with your wife he is not responsible at all, its not his job to try and figure out if every woman trying to fuck him is married

Chads can totally choose to not fuck more than 1 woman in their lifetimes so incels can have a chance at a normal life

You can choose to take half of your pay every month to donate to charity so people who are worse off can have a better life, please go ahead and do that to validate this BS argument, its not the job of another person (who isn't contractually obligated) to facilitate other peoples shortcomings, you are forgetting the main point of this scenario, the social contract that exists between men and women
 
Depends, he's only responsible if he knows she's married, so you have to prove without a doubt he was aware she was married and she wasn't hiding it for him to actually be legitimately responsible, if a guy has a one night stand with your wife he is not responsible at all, its not his job to try and figure out if every woman trying to fuck him is married
What about not having one-night stands with random women?

"It isn't chads fault he's a horny arrogant POS" - you.
You can choose to take half of your pay every month to donate to charity so people who are worse off can have a better life, please go ahead and do that to validate this BS argument, its not the job of another person (who isn't contractually obligated) to facilitate other peoples shortcomings, you are forgetting the main point of this scenario, the social contract that exists between men and women
Guess what dude? We pay taxes. That is the problem. Society forces themselves to some amount of utility from us, and we're not getting anything in return.
 
Guess what dude? We pay taxes. That is the problem. Society forces themselves to some amount of utility from us, and we're not getting anything in return.

Wrong, what you get in return is that you get to live in society, go be homeless and don't pay taxes, or go live "off of the land" for a few years and then say you aren't getting anything in return, getting to exist within society is the utility you get from it

This is common sense, you are messaging me on a computer, that would not be possible outside of a society, the technology wouldn't exist, and the safety and ease to use it "in the comfort of your home" would not exist, you are basking in the utility of society yet saying you get nothing in return, I've never seen so much lack of self awareness

What about not having one-night stands with random women?

"It isn't chads fault he's a horny arrogant POS" - you.

Ironically like a feminist you want equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity, Chad will always have more opportunities due to his looks, you don't seem to get you are arbitrarily focusing on sex, which is why I brought up you giving away half of your pay to charity, but you still didn't get the point, if you can't get it after my following examples you are complete idiot

On average taller handsome men get bigger promotions and promoted more often
"What about not taking every promotion you get offered?" - you

Most CEO's are above average height
"What about not aiming to become a CEO" - you

WHY ARE YOU ARBITRARILY FOCUSING ON SEX WHEN IT COMES TO THE PERKS OF BEING CHAD, I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW FULL WELL YOUR ARGUMENT BECOMES RIDICULOUS AND RETARDED IF WE CARRY IT TO ITS LOGICAL CONCLUSION

"What about not trying to have an enjoyable life" - you


This is pretty much your argument, why stop at sex, if you are going to be logically consistent why not apply it to other aspects of being Chad, in the same way that he should avoid one night stands with women to not steal the future wives of low tier males, why shouldn't he avoid promotions that he's basically stealing from shorter men, why shouldn't he push for a short guy to become CEO and not take advantage of his height, why should he do anything at all that is to his benefit when by default its going to be at the expense of a low tier male

Your argument is ridiculous

At the end of the day WOMEN ARE THE GATE KEEPERS, if a woman says no and the man still advances its rape, so it makes no logical sense to me, to blame the chaser, when all the gate keeper has to do is refuse, just like it refuses so many others every day

This is why the blame falls on women and not Chad, THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY

Lets say Chad just shows up to a bar to drink and doesn't approach any women, what happens if the woman is approaching Chad and throwing herself at him, are you saying its still his fault, he has to spend all night holding himself back, and refuse, would you do the same?. At the end of the day its the woman who has the final say

Chad approaches and women refuse - nothing happens
Chad doesn't approach and women don't approach - nothing happens
Chad approaches and women don't refuse - sex
Chad doesn't approach and women approach - sex

The male libido is not the same thing as the female libido, you are comparing women and men and saying - "well Chads are accountable too like women" when they aren't both resisting the same level of sexual urges, there's a reason why most rapists are men, there's a reason why porn is basically marketed towards men, you are magically forgetting that reason when its convenient

A woman can decide on a whim to end a sexual interaction and if the man continues its rape, how the fuck are you going to act like there's equal responsibility in that scenario

YOU DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE HOW IRONICALLY FEMINIST YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE, ACT AS IF MEN AND WOMEN ARE THE SAME
 
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Wrong, what you get in return is that you get to live in society, go be homeless and don't pay taxes, or go live "off of the land" for a few years and then say you aren't getting anything in return, getting to exist within society is the utility you get from it

This is common sense, you are messaging me on a computer, that would not be possible outside of a society, the technology wouldn't exist, and the safety and ease to use it "in the comfort of your home" would not exist, you are basking in the utility of society yet saying you get nothing in return, I've never seen so much lack of self awareness
If society is so crucial to one's ability to be safe, why would people not voluntarily contribute to support it?
"What about not trying to have an enjoyable life" - you

This is pretty much your argument, why stop at sex, if you are going to be logically consistent why not apply it to other aspects of being Chad, in the same way that he should avoid one night stands with women to not steal the future wives of low tier males, why shouldn't he avoid promotions that he's basically stealing from shorter men, why shouldn't he push for a short guy to become CEO and not take advantage of his height, why should he do anything at all that is to his benefit when by default its going to be at the expense of a low tier male
Nothing you said matters because you're arguing against a strawman. I never claimed Chads can't have an enjoyable life- I said they shouldn't destroy others. I'm feeling real bad for all these poor Chads, not being able to chainfuck virgins anymore.

I think you're making the logical error of confusing is with ought. I'm not denying that Chads do fuck multiple women, I'm saying they shouldn't. I'm not denying reality, I'm prescribing a better one.
At the end of the day WOMEN ARE THE GATE KEEPERS, if a woman says no and the man still advances its rape, so it makes no logical sense to me, to blame the chaser, when all the gate keeper has to do is refuse, just like it refuses so many others every day

This is why the blame falls on women and not Chad, THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY

Lets say Chad just shows up to a bar to drink and doesn't approach any women, what happens if the woman is approaching Chad and throwing herself at him, are you saying its still his fault, he has to spend all night holding himself back, and refuse, would you do the same?. At the end of the day its the woman who has the final say

Chad approaches and women refuse - nothing happens
Chad doesn't approach and women don't approach - nothing happens
Chad approaches and women don't refuse - sex
Chad doesn't approach and women approach - sex

The male libido is not the same thing as the female libido, you are comparing women and men and saying - "well Chads are accountable too like women" when they aren't both resisting the same level of sexual urges, there's a reason why most rapists are men, there's a reason why porn is basically marketed towards men, you are magically forgetting that reason when its convenient

A woman can decide on a whim to end a sexual interaction and if the man continues its rape, how the fuck are you going to act like there's equal responsibility in that scenario

YOU DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE HOW IRONICALLY FEMINIST YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE, ACT AS IF MEN AND WOMEN ARE THE SAME
Do you think young women make good choices? You don't think it's possible they may have been mislead by a generation of Marxist teachers and public schools that encourage underage promiscuity and degeneracy?

Imagine defending promiscuous Chads despite claiming to be blackpilled xxdddd.
 
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I never claimed Chads can't have an enjoyable life- I said they shouldn't destroy others

Dude you are a fucking retard, I literally spelt it out for you and you still didn't get it

EVERYTHING CHAD DOES, NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE LIFE OF A LOW TIER MALE

JUST BY EXISTING CHAD MAKES LOW TIER MALES LIVES HARDER, HE TAKES JOB OPPURTUNITIES, PROMOTIONS, CEO POSITIONS, AND YES, WOMEN


The only way for him to have an enjoyable life, is to negatively impact and destroy other men's lives, that's how the world works, when you win in the stock market you didn't magically get money from nowhere, somebody else lost on the market, you are taking somebody elses money, just as in all things in life
 
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Male sex havers have always been more of a problem than females because of the simple fact that females lack the mental capability to make the same logical decisions men do. Their minds are more akin to children than grown adults, and it's men who are able to have sex who pump and dump women, which in turn increases hypergamy and makes it harder for the rest of us. The same goes for escortcels/anyone who is actively having sex. If you are participating in the sex addiction you are an enemy of Incels because its promiscuity and degeneracy that is a direct cause of it.

Sex havers belong on a cross.
 
I hate white-knights and cucks more than anything tbh.
 

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