Serious Why do normies like the idea of self improvement so much?

[Yunoo]

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Normies treat Inceldom as a moral failing. They think that if you struggle with making friends and finding a partner there must be something wrong with your morals and you have to self improve.

Self improvement is a scam.
Most people are able to make friends without any self improvement. Most incels have already tried self improvement and therapy anyways.

In my opinion, like how some people are naturally predisposed to be good at basketball, some are predisposed to be sociable and likable.

On the other hand, incels are predisposed to be unlikable and have bad social skills. Personality is strongly influenced by genetics and it’s very hard to change it when you’re an adult.

On top of that most incels are physically unattractive. That’s why incels struggle with making friends and finding a partner.

 

[VanGobbel]

Because of their bluepilled worldview, they actually take foids reasons for rejecting them seriously. They think they can "improve" their appearance to adhere to what foids are looking for.

But they fail to realise that foids are just looking for genetically gifted Chads. Homeless, unwashed, messy haircut Chad still gets foids easily just by existing.

 

[Rapistcel]

Because of their bluepilled worldview, they actually take foids reasons for rejecting them seriously. They think they can "improve" their appearance to adhere to what foids are looking for.

But they fail to realise that foids are just looking for genetically gifted Chads. Homeless, unwashed, messy haircut Chad still gets foids easily just by existing.

"I just want to focus in my studies "
The studies: getting fucked by chad.

 

[Leon98]

This retard doesn’t know anything, I wish I could punch them in the face.

 

[VanGobbel]

"I just want to focus in my studies "
The studies: getting fucked by chad.

 

[Yunoo]

This retard doesn’t know anything, I wish I could punch them in the face.

Tbf he’s only trying to help. He did ‘self improvement’ and to some extent it improved his life, so he wants to share it with others. I’m not mad at this Redditor but he’s certainly wrong

 

[End Hypergamy]

All the self-improvement in the world isn't going to convince La Gordita or Shaniqua to sleep with you, sweaty...

I consider it real self-improvement when you remove women from your personal life. So much peace in not putting up with their bullshit.

 

[Yunoo]

All the self-improvement in the world isn't going to convince La Gordita or Shaniqua to sleep with you, sweaty...

I consider it real self-improvement when you remove women from your personal life. So much peace in not putting up with their bullshit.

I agree giving up dating and women and finding happiness in something else sounds amazing

 

[Manlet]

Because it's human nature, humans need to feel like things are within their control so they have an incentive to get up everyday and actually try.
The average normie can't comprehend the blackpill without losing all will to live and try, even most people here can't which is why this place is full of neets and rotters, so they must make up ideologies to defend against it.
Admitting that the majority of things in your life are outside of your control is a very counterintuitive thing to have to accept.

 

[NormieCelll]

Looksmaxxing is the only form of "self improvement" that isn't cope
NTmaxxing also makes sense if the person is at least LTN but has autism and/or social ineptitude

 

[LowIQ loner]

Tbf he’s only trying to help. He did ‘self improvement’ and to some extent it improved his life, so he wants to share it with others. I’m not mad at this Redditor but he’s certainly wrong

he does not want to help us. He just wants to gaslight us and seek normie approval on reddit for his self improoovement

 

[autisticsoy]

Just view world fallacy which is especially strong for them on dating. Plenty of redditors will believe that the world is unfair but yet have a difficult time that this can also apply dating.

 

[NearestNeighbor]

so they can blame you for "not doing enough" and deny blackpill

 

[andrej]

Normies are actually very low on the consciousness plain

 

[nice to NEET you]

They do? I thought they hated it because it became assosiated with people like Andrew Tate who aren't hecking wholesome

 

[Paperman]

so they can blame you for "not doing enough" and deny blackpill

This. And normies think they have more talent than they really do; they think they can learn anything fast.

 

[Grodd]

Because they aren't all that smart.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

It makes them believe that they are in charge and can control things

 

[LostSoulUK]

Exactly, normies don't fuckin understand and they never will. They're also ignorant towards mental health in general.

Trucels like us don't fit in anywhere. Even if we're friendly, we're still outcast by ignorant normies. Yet a pretty girl can bat her eyelids and the whole room will flock like seagulls and treat her like a fuckin princess, even if she is the most stuck up person in the room.

 

[GreerTech Creations]

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Normies treat Inceldom as a moral failing. They think that if you struggle with making friends and finding a partner there must be something wrong with your morals and you have to self improve.

Self improvement is a scam.
Most people are able to make friends without any self improvement. Most incels have already tried self improvement and therapy anyways.

In my opinion, like how some people are naturally predisposed to be good at basketball, some are predisposed to be sociable and likable.

On the other hand, incels are predisposed to be unlikable and have bad social skills. Personality is strongly influenced by genetics and it’s very hard to change it when you’re an adult.

On top of that most incels are physically unattractive. That’s why incels struggle with making friends and finding a partner.

"Just World" Fallacy
It's a cope from people who can't or don't want to accept that people have misfortune. Therefore, any misfortune is just a failing on the victims part. It's a very pervasive fallacy. Of course, in some cases, some people do deserve/create their misery. And self-improvement for your own sake is a good thing.

Just-world fallacy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Belief in a just world

Belief in a just world (BJW) is a psychological tendency wherein individuals assume that the world functions fairly, with outcomes generally aligning with moral desert—rewarding the virtuous and penalizing the culpable—to foster a perception of order and predictability amid uncertainty. This...

grokipedia.com

 

[Caichan]

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Normies treat Inceldom as a moral failing. They think that if you struggle with making friends and finding a partner there must be something wrong with your morals and you have to self improve.

Self improvement is a scam.
Most people are able to make friends without any self improvement. Most incels have already tried self improvement and therapy anyways.

In my opinion, like how some people are naturally predisposed to be good at basketball, some are predisposed to be sociable and likable.

On the other hand, incels are predisposed to be unlikable and have bad social skills. Personality is strongly influenced by genetics and it’s very hard to change it when you’re an adult.

On top of that most incels are physically unattractive. That’s why incels struggle with making friends and finding a partner.

Slave mindset

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

"I was a retarded shut in who didn't get women because I stayed inside all day and that means if you don't get women either you must be like that too!" Very telling that this normalfag cannot comprehend that there are people living a different life experience then him, that there are indeed people who have improved themselves and still cannot get women. In essence he was a fakecel in spirit the kind of guy who posts here for about a month and then announces to the whole forum that he got a girlfriend because he started trying for once in his life.

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

Notice how this guy never says he was ugly/is ugly or had/has any mental issues? The only real negative trait he lists is his height as if he's just a failed normalfag who stopped being a failed normalfag because he actually started trying.

 

[The Judge]

For the same reason why some attempt to cure their woes through prayer.

Most human beings cannot accept that there is no hope for them, so they cling to various falsehoods in order to put their minds at ease. "You can easily find a girlfriend with a little self-improvment!" is far easier to digest than "Attractiveness is determined entirely by your genetics."

We are the only ones willing to accept the harsh, uncomfortable truth.

 

[Pikacel]

Self criticism and external criticism doesn’t work

Look at me for example. I doompost on Lounge every single day yet where has that gotten me in life?

I’m pretty sure every incel is aware of their issues, it’s not as simple as ‘they just don’t want to work on themselves’ like normies make it out to be.

 

[sadmanlet5629]

Because it upholds the narrative. You can technically always IMPROVEEE. And they can say that if you don't get what you want, you haven't IMPROVED enough

 

[sadmanlet5629]

Because it upholds the narrative. You can technically always IMPROVEEE. And they can say that if you don't get what you want, you haven't IMPROVED enough

Here is a visual representation of my point:
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/vB3eyTnUZPY?si=deWi5r4gW-8Cme9q

 

[Pikacel]

These kinds of reddit normieposts only serve to show off and punch down on incels

‘Look at me, I made all the right decisions in life. While you did fucking nothing what a loser’

They’re clearly trying to stress you out and make you out to be a hopeless loser. Especially with all the micro-criticisms to make you come off as fundamentally and wholly dysfunctional. Plus the ‘my whole life’ to make it seem as if you’re too far behind and doomed

No wonder incels become so mentally ill. People will literally commit suicide over shit like this

 

[hunter x atomics]

Nietzsche spoke of this when it comes to peasant morality. most of their moral basis comes from viewing themselves as weak and disadvantaged people and so 'good' people however this creates an issue where someone has to fill the role of the superior and oppressor role this tends to be straight men. in order for their world view to stay consistent straight men need to continously be in power and capable of altering their situation if they cant or worse they are in a worse situation than them. the straight men becoming the good people. so to presever this they need to inheritly deny any form of struggles possible faced by straight men
note: i've kinda talked about this before but the points still stand