Whether it’s Islam, Christianity, Confucianism, or Philosophers it’s apparent men long ago and even across cultures came to similar conclusions about what women were like as a group.
> “Women and people of low birth are very hard to deal with. If you are friendly to them, they get out of hand, and if you keep your distance, they resent it.”
—Confucius
> “While I was still searching but not finding— I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.”
—Ecclesiastes 7:28
> “Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what God would have them guard.”
—Quran 4:1
> “Sahih al-Bukhari 29
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful."
Schopenhauer below (and there is a ton more of course, we’ve had whole threads of ancient views showing what people thought). And of course anytime you see this stuff discussed on mainstream forums or places like Reddit everyone dismisses it as the ramblings of an irrational people.
> “The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.”
—Arthur Schopenhauer
> “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
—Arthur Schopenhauer
I included that last one to show that being part of the majority doesn’t mean you’re right. Incels very well may simply be ahead of the curve.
Anyway, I think the answer is just that the way men are raised now were taught different things. And women raise men in school by and large not other men. And if men tried to say anything like this western societies immediately dish out consequences whether or social or financial. Isn’t it interesting how different societies and religions all came to more or less the same conclusions? But I guess they’re just dumb bigots
Seriously what a weak cop out. It’s as if every redditor never stopped to ask themselves if that’s actually what matters. Well, it doesn’t. What matters is whether it’s true or to what extent.
> “Women and people of low birth are very hard to deal with. If you are friendly to them, they get out of hand, and if you keep your distance, they resent it.”
—Confucius
> “While I was still searching but not finding— I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.”
—Ecclesiastes 7:28
> “Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what God would have them guard.”
—Quran 4:1
> “Sahih al-Bukhari 29
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful."
Schopenhauer below (and there is a ton more of course, we’ve had whole threads of ancient views showing what people thought). And of course anytime you see this stuff discussed on mainstream forums or places like Reddit everyone dismisses it as the ramblings of an irrational people.
> “The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.”
—Arthur Schopenhauer
> “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
—Arthur Schopenhauer
I included that last one to show that being part of the majority doesn’t mean you’re right. Incels very well may simply be ahead of the curve.
Anyway, I think the answer is just that the way men are raised now were taught different things. And women raise men in school by and large not other men. And if men tried to say anything like this western societies immediately dish out consequences whether or social or financial. Isn’t it interesting how different societies and religions all came to more or less the same conclusions? But I guess they’re just dumb bigots
Seriously what a weak cop out. It’s as if every redditor never stopped to ask themselves if that’s actually what matters. Well, it doesn’t. What matters is whether it’s true or to what extent.
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