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Why are Slavs So Terrible at War?

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Ukraine got hundreds of billions of dollars in arms, more than any other military in history and they still can’t defeat the Russians who are mostly using almost 50 year old Cold War era planes and armored vehicles. This is almost more embarrassing than when Gaddafi lost to technicals in Chad.
 
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Technology.

Modern warfare is mostly technological.

Russians just struggle with the chips and producing stealth aircraft and accurate radars. They also struggle at logistics.

I'd also pit Russia and Ukraine as near peers, in terms of (imported) weaponry.
 
Ukraine got hundreds of billions of dollars in arms, more than any other military in history and they still can’t defeat the Russians who are mostly using almost 50 year old Cold War era planes and armored vehicles. This is almost more embarrassing than when Gaddafi lost to technicals in Chad.
It's impossible to defeat someone who outnumbers you and doesn't care about casualties.
 
Militarywarfareexperts.is
 
modern warfare is stagnant like this between to equal forces it's nothing inherent to race
 
They don't have my hate
 
Considering that they were universally predicted to be destined to fall in weeks if not days and that absolutely nobody ever believed they could survive an all-out Russian invasion and be anything else than a stepping stone for further Russian advance, the fact that they are still standing three years in after getting military aid worth less than 1% of US' GDP is nothing less than impressive.

There's only one country that is completely humiliating itself in this war through it's extreme ineptitude and massively lower capabilities than it had advertised for years, and that is Russia. Even if they won tomorrow, nothing will ever change the fact that they were stalemated for over three years by fucking Ukraine of all countries:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:.

It's impossible to defeat someone who outnumbers you and doesn't care about casualties.
 
Russia's only using motorcycle brigades because it somehow lost most of its armored forces already
 
Also this

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This is what happens when most of the country is drinking Putin's brand of vodka
 
Considering that they were universally predicted to be destined to fall in weeks if not days and that absolutely nobody ever believed they could survive an all-out Russian invasion and be anything else than a stepping stone for further Russian advance, the fact that they are still standing three years in after getting military aid worth less than 1% of US' GDP is nothing less than impressive.

There's only one country that is completely humiliating itself in this war through it's extreme ineptitude and massively lower capabilities than it had advertised for years, and that is Russia. Even if they won tomorrow, nothing will ever change the fact that they were stalemated for over three years by fucking Ukraine of all countries:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:.
To add to insult, Ukraine is a flat country too, there is a reason why Kursk was a big tank battle.

The reason why Poland got invaded so much is because it's flat.

But Russians can't even hold W.
 
modern warfare is stagnant like this between to equal forces it's nothing inherent to race
Modern warfare is technological, which is tied to how good a race is when it comes to developing technology and maintaining logistics.

An military division of Africans would be very hard to organize/get it to obey orders as well.
 
It's impossible to defeat someone who outnumbers you and doesn't care about casualties.
Very true, maybe you should tell that to the braindead pro Ukrainian mainstream media consumers, who still think victory is possible. Idiots like Jake Broe for example.

we have seen this with the Wehrmacht. Conservative estimates place Soviet military deaths between 8 to 11 million, compared to 4 to 5 million for the Axis on the Eastern Front. That’s nearly a 2:1 kill ratio in favor of the Germans. Even while they were fighting a two front war btw, outgunned logistically, and eventually abandoned by strategic resources. Germans had everything, generations ahead in terms of technological advancements. But a willingness to annihilate their own people in the name of ideology can outweigh tactical and technological superiority. The Bolsheviks could afford to bleed endlessly. The Reich could not. Quantity triumphed over quality. Stains quote was something along the lines of 'quantity is a quality of its own'
 
No offense to slavcels there, you guys are cool, but the current performance of Slavic militaries do follow the historical patterns
 
Very true, maybe you should tell that to the braindead pro Ukrainian mainstream media consumers, who still think victory is possible. Idiots like Jake Broe for example.

we have seen this with the Wehrmacht. Conservative estimates place Soviet military deaths between 8 to 11 million, compared to 4 to 5 million for the Axis on the Eastern Front. That’s nearly a 2:1 kill ratio in favor of the Germans. this, even while they were fighting a two front war, outgunned logistically, and eventually abandoned by strategic resources. Germans had everything, generations ahead in terms of technological advancements. But a willingness to annihilate their own people in the name of ideology can outweigh tactical and technological superiority. The Bolsheviks could afford to bleed endlessly. The Reich could not. Quantity triumphed over quality. Stains quote was something along the lines of 'quantity is a quality of its own'
One needs to consider that with modern weaponry, the rudimentary "mongol" style warfare will cause exceptionally more causality.
 
One needs to consider that with modern weaponry, the rudimentary "mongol" style warfare will cause exceptionally more causality.
Yes but it's an oversimplification I guess. Modern weaponry does make high casualty tactics costlier, but history shows such strategies remain viable when a regime can absorb the losses. Iran in the 1980s or Russia recently illustrate this clearly. 3 years later and they're still shouting ZOV, Z, Davai jfl. Advanced arms raise the price of attrition warfare, but don’t eliminate it. If one side prioritizes victory over human life and has the political will to sustain it, quantity can still overwhelm quality.
 
Militarywarfareexperts.is
The standard for "expertise" is very low these days. News journalists literally call Glocks as Aks. Save for a few, you'd get more accurate analysis from incels (those interested in a given topic ofc)

And we won't lie about African militaries struggling becausd of le poor le culture. We known it's low IQ and this is more accurate than most experts.
 
Very true, maybe you should tell that to the braindead pro Ukrainian mainstream media consumers, who still think victory is possible. Idiots like Jake Broe for example.

we have seen this with the Wehrmacht. Conservative estimates place Soviet military deaths between 8 to 11 million, compared to 4 to 5 million for the Axis on the Eastern Front. That’s nearly a 2:1 kill ratio in favor of the Germans. Even while they were fighting a two front war btw, outgunned logistically, and eventually abandoned by strategic resources. Germans had everything, generations ahead in terms of technological advancements. But a willingness to annihilate their own people in the name of ideology can outweigh tactical and technological superiority. The Bolsheviks could afford to bleed endlessly. The Reich could not. Quantity triumphed over quality. Stains quote was something along the lines of 'quantity is a quality of its own'
Yes, but Russia has always used the number of soldiers rather than the quality. This was also the case during the Tsarist era. It's simply that human life in Russia has never been valued, and as a result, despite being technologically backward compared to Western Europe, Russia has always relied on its numerical superiority and the fact that its enemies value their soldiers more, making their losses psychologically more significant. In fact, the only enemy that Russia has successfully defeated throughout most of its history is the Ottoman Empire, as they were even more technologically backward than Russia itself.
 
One needs to consider that with modern weaponry, the rudimentary "mongol" style warfare will cause exceptionally more causality.
Losses don't matter when it comes to a tyrannical state where human life is worth nothing. The entire United States was psychologically shattered by the loss of 60,000 soldiers in Vietnam over a 10-year period, leading the country to rely on technological means of killing rather than infantry. In contrast, Russia has lost approximately one million soldiers over a 3.5-year period, and no one seems to care.
 
Very true, maybe you should tell that to the braindead pro Ukrainian mainstream media consumers, who still think victory is possible. Idiots like Jake Broe for example.

we have seen this with the Wehrmacht. Conservative estimates place Soviet military deaths between 8 to 11 million, compared to 4 to 5 million for the Axis on the Eastern Front. That’s nearly a 2:1 kill ratio in favor of the Germans. Even while they were fighting a two front war btw, outgunned logistically, and eventually abandoned by strategic resources. Germans had everything, generations ahead in terms of technological advancements. But a willingness to annihilate their own people in the name of ideology can outweigh tactical and technological superiority. The Bolsheviks could afford to bleed endlessly. The Reich could not. Quantity triumphed over quality. Stains quote was something along the lines of 'quantity is a quality of its own'
Secondly, the Russian armed forces have always suffered from low morale, as most peasants were forced to fight against their will. Approximately one in four Russian soldiers surrendered during World War I. During the First World War, 66 generals of the Tsarist army were captured by the enemy (according to other sources, 73 generals were captured). In contrast, only two German generals were captured by the Russians.
The only reason the USSR defeated the Germans in World War II was that Stalin was a greater despot than Nicholas II. Stalin literally ordered soldiers to shoot in the back those who fled the battlefield, and if a soldier surrendered, his family was deprived of all benefits and payments, leading to a long and painful death from starvation. According to the book "Everything for the Front," there were more than 2 million deserters and about 2.5 million draft evaders during the Great Patriotic War. About 1 million deserters were sentenced, and 150,000 of them were executed.
 
Very true, maybe you should tell that to the braindead pro Ukrainian mainstream media consumers, who still think victory is possible. Idiots like Jake Broe for example.

we have seen this with the Wehrmacht. Conservative estimates place Soviet military deaths between 8 to 11 million, compared to 4 to 5 million for the Axis on the Eastern Front. That’s nearly a 2:1 kill ratio in favor of the Germans. Even while they were fighting a two front war btw, outgunned logistically, and eventually abandoned by strategic resources. Germans had everything, generations ahead in terms of technological advancements. But a willingness to annihilate their own people in the name of ideology can outweigh tactical and technological superiority. The Bolsheviks could afford to bleed endlessly. The Reich could not. Quantity triumphed over quality. Stains quote was something along the lines of 'quantity is a quality of its own'
For Ukrainians, as for Finns, the mere survival of their state will be considered a victory in this war. Even if the Finns lost 15% of their territory in the Winter War, and the Ukrainians lose 25% of their territory. This is still a victory.
 
Losses don't matter when it comes to a tyrannical state where human life is worth nothing. The entire United States was psychologically shattered by the loss of 60,000 soldiers in Vietnam over a 10-year period, leading the country to rely on technological means of killing rather than infantry. In contrast, Russia has lost approximately one million soldiers over a 3.5-year period, and no one seems to care.
Modern Russia isn't Russia back then. There's no vast Soviet population and resources. There's so much lose you can take before the society stops functioning and population gets angry.

The fact theyre importing lots of jeets and nigs is a evidence of this
 
Modern Russia isn't Russia back then. There's no vast Soviet population and resources. There's so much lose you can take before the society stops functioning and population gets angry.

The fact theyre importing lots of jeets and nigs is a evidence of this
Yes, she can spend her population freely, because the basis of Russia's economy is raw materials, namely oil, gas, diamonds, and coal, and it doesn't require a large population to extract them. Margaret Thatcher once said that Russia only needs 25 million people to extract oil, gas, coal, timber, diamonds, and so on, and transport them for sale to the West.
 
Ukraine got hundreds of billions of dollars in arms, more than any other military in history and they still can’t defeat the Russians
It seems that neither side has a goal to win. Like RF for example, which had all the opportunities to kill most of Ukraine leadership, destroy all bridges across Dnipro river to collapse AFU logistics, attack in the least protected areas between Chernigov and Sumy regions, instead, they deliberately grind the most protected Donbass agglomeration where AFU defense lines have been built since 2014 and has the most experienced and powerful part of it's military there. Everything that the leadership of Russia does seems like deliberate sabotage, aimed at demilitarizing themselves.
 
Russia must be finished just like Iraq in 2003.
 
It seems that neither side has a goal to win. Like RF for example, which had all the opportunities to kill most of Ukraine leadership, destroy all bridges across Dnipro river to collapse AFU logistics, attack in the least protected areas between Chernigov and Sumy regions, instead, they deliberately grind the most protected Donbass agglomeration where AFU defense lines have been built since 2014 and has the most experienced and powerful part of it's military there. Everything that the leadership of Russia does seems like deliberate sabotage, aimed at demilitarizing themselves.
Yeah they lost (significant damage to themselves, civic and military) the war when they failed to seize the early advantage.

When the western countries began building the arrangement for logistics/manufacturing of weaponry it was over.

They should have just sent some Su-57 (shit plane or not, a stealth is still stealth) and send some missiles to AFU leadership and be done with it.
 
Because this war is about wiping out slavs not winning/losing anything.
New Khazaria eradication genocide of slavic people fake made up russian ukrainian war
 
when they failed to seize the early advantage.
small number of troops and equipment dispersed in all directions (again, deliberate sabotage) then at the very beginning (late febuary-march) they started to conduct negotiations in Belarus which resulted in withdrawal of all the forces from the north of Ukraine.
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When the western countries began building the arrangement for logistics/manufacturing of weaponry it was over.
in early 2014 Ukraine military was a joke, kind of like modern day Belarus but worse, instead of finishing them off in that perfect moment they let them rearm, modernize their military. also gave them combat experience they needed so much.
Even sent military equipment to AFU from Crimea.
They should have just sent some Su-57 (shit plane or not, a stealth is still stealth) and send some missiles to AFU leadership and be done with it.
RF has comparable air force to Israel when it comes to quantity, but Israel is sovereign state doing whatever they want, they have demonstrated complete dominance in the skies over Iran, dropping anything they want at them from above and refueling over their territory.
 
It's impossible to defeat someone who outnumbers you and doesn't care about casualties.
Considering that they were universally predicted to be destined to fall in weeks if not days and that absolutely nobody ever believed they could survive an all-out Russian invasion and be anything else than a stepping stone for further Russian advance, the fact that they are still standing three years in after getting military aid worth less than 1% of US' GDP is nothing less than impressive.

There's only one country that is completely humiliating itself in this war through it's extreme ineptitude and massively lower capabilities than it had advertised for years, and that is Russia. Even if they won tomorrow, nothing will ever change the fact that they were stalemated for over three years by fucking Ukraine of all countries:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:.
 
Russia and ukraine are like two drunkards fighting in slow motion. A sore to everyone's eyes, both pompous and pathetic.
 
Russia and ukraine are like two drunkards fighting in slow motion. A sore to everyone's eyes, both pompous and pathetic.
Aptly put
 
I suspect that outside of the Russian empire and the Ottoman empire that haunted the Balkans until WW 1. Eastern Europe just does not have the military for defeating larger countries .No Eastern European country ever had power they have been bullied by Russia , Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans since medieval times

It was their rage at being pushed around that started WW1
 

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