Serious Why are hostage situations never resolved by making the hostage-taker's friends and family counter-hostages?

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

For real. Something tells me those incidents would be resolved much closer if there were actual stakes for the retards who do that. And if there weren't, at least the relatives of the victims could deal with their trauma easier, knowing that the perpetrators also saw their loved ones threatened and murdered for no reason, and that while they will face years of sadness and regret, the loved ones of those retards who didn't do anything to stop them will also have a lot of trauma to deal with, that they won't be the only ones who truly lost in that situation and that their dead were avenged.

Now:

Cops: "P-P-Please don't shoot, don't kill anyone, we'll give you whatever you want."

Hostage-taker: "That's right, I'm the God in this situation, I alone hold the power of life and death here. I face no stakes here, I alone am at no risk of dying, I'm in full control of the situation, this ends whenever I choose and it ends with me being arrested while whoever I decide to kill will be simply gone. My friends and relatives can deal with the aftermath of this simply by moving away and changing their names, while the loved ones of my victims could never deal with it in that way, and at the end, they will watch me walk out smiling after I've had my fun, looking at the screen crying for their loved ones they didn't know they saw the last time."

In an ideal world:

Hostage-taker: "D-D-Do as I say! I have a gun and hostages, and if you won't give me what I want, I'll make the gun go pew-pew at them!"

Cops: "We've rounded up all your friends and relatives. You know, the people whose lives you obviously value, since you haven't taken them hostage and aren't threatening them. Well, guess what, we aren't you and don't value them. You'll execute one hostage every hour until you get what you want? We can make you the same promise until you surrender, plus we'll kill one more for every one you've killed. You aren't in the control of the situation here, bucko."

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Society really be like "Don't go ER, Chud!" but it never puts actual stakes into going ER.

 

[pizzamaxxer]

that's quite smart but that would hinder ER

 

[psyop]

Scripted events + crisis actors. Follow the numbers

 

[Morphine]

People who take civilians hostage are already crazy and have the nothing to lose mentality. Most of them won't give up even after doing what you suggested above.

Also, they're very aware the police won't harm their family/friends/relatives because the police don't touch innocent civilians, especially when in front of the public eyes.

 

[Chromium]

Because they know that the police won't actually kill them lol, that would be stupid

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

People who take civilians hostage are already crazy and have the nothing to lose mentality. Most of them won't give up even after doing what you suggested above.

That's why I pointed out that, however gone they might be mentally, they still didn't take the people they like hostage and instead did so to random civilians. Revealed preferences, you might say.

But more importantly, even if we discount that, there's also the factor I mentioned, the loved ones of the victims getting at least some justice in seeing the people the attackers obviously love also going through hell and knowing that they aren't the only people losing in that situation, plus the effect it might have on prevention, with people maybe becoming quicker to call the authorities on their relatives who they suspect could do that if they knew that this was the preferred method to resolve those situations.

Also, they're very aware the police won't harm their family/friends/relatives because the police don't touch innocent civilians, especially when in front of the public eyes.

Yeah, IRL they wouldn't, that's why I was comparing that to a theoretical world where the cops would do that and there would be no problem with it.

 

[Sir Waco]

Probably cuz it would be hard to determine the hostage taker's identity and track his family down in time (if he even has one).

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Identifying the criminal and his entourage, which may be valuable to him, takes time, and a criminal who has weapons and random hostages has the opportunity to set a deadline for fulfilling his demands.
He can only give you 24 hours during which no one will have time to find out his identity ( if he uses a mask) but also to find out his surroundings and take his loved ones hostage.