Which perpetually victimized group of gaslighting whiners is more annoying?

[Deleted member 2798]

Time to get to the bottom of this. Which of these two spiritually female advocacy groups is worse?

Strong women: Entire Western world caters to their delusions and inferiority complexes, public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner. Accuses others of institutional privilege by using the tools and tortuous concepts developed by these same institutions. Claim to be under the thumb of "White male supremacy" despite being favored, helped, and coddled like children by a preponderance of this same group. Will accuse White incels of holding out for "Stacy" because it doesn't get exactly what it wants (Chad) and needs a way to cope and assign the blame to a marginal group adjacent to the unresponsive party. Thinks all of its supremely embarrassing failures that it's racked up on KidMode are ultimately the fault of White males.

Pieces of "Color": Entire Western world caters to their delusions and inferiority complexes, public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner. Accuses others of institutional privilege by using the tools and tortuous concepts developed by these same institutions. Claim to be under the thumb of "White male supremacy" despite being favored, helped, and coddled like children by a preponderance of this same group. Will accuse White incels of holding out for "Stacy" because it doesn't get exactly what it wants (White Stacy) and needs a way to cope and assign the blame to a marginal group adjacent to the unresponsive party. Thinks all of its supremely embarrassing failures that it's racked up on KidMode are ultimately the fault of White males.

Can't decide tbh.

 

[guerillahubris]

Only whites can be low iq enough to deny jbw. I dare you to live in a multicultural city and go outside

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Only whites can be low iq enough to deny jbw.

Of course it's always "low IQ" to contradict a shitnik's greedy, deluded scheming. Pretty much the textbook definition of stupidity to not be reeled in by deeply stupid muds and their correspondingly baseless "theories" that they use as a weapon against you, really.

I dare you to live in a multicultural city and go outside

Ook ook ook how much will u gibs me if I do it??

(I already do dumbass lol. Pay up.)

 

[guerillahubris]

Of course it's always "low IQ" to contradict a shitnik's greedy, deluded scheming. Pretty much the textbook definition of stupidity to not be reeled in by deeply stupid muds and their correspondingly baseless "theories" that they use as a weapon against you, really.



Ook ook ook how much will u gibs me if I do it??

(I already do dumbass lol. Pay up.)

Ok then do you not see all the white guys with ethnic girls every day. I go past hundreds if not thousands of people every day and i see more wmaf than wmwf. I wouldnt be so vehement about jbw if it wasnt shoved in my face every single day

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Ok then do you not see all the white guys with ethnic girls every day. I go past hundreds if not thousands of people every day and i see more wmaf than wmwf. I wouldnt be so vehement about jbw if it wasnt shoved in my face every single day

Your eyes are wired for it at this point. Guarantee you're picking all of the WMEF out of the crowd, especially since I see the opposite all too often.

Whatever you happen to think about things, you shouldn't be agitating against other posters here just to give yourself some cheap peace of mind. As it stands, Whites here will need to start making counter-ethnicoper threads until they start to grow weary of "race"-obsession ("ethnic" is not a race).

I wasn't exactly thinking of you when I made this thread (I've barely seen you post). This was meant to be a pretty direct riff on the thread one of the moderators made today pretending "BBC" spamming was a legitimate problem here (ignoring the 3 racepilk threads a day of a rather different variety).

 

[DoomedCel]

Only whites can be low iq enough to deny jbw. I dare you to live in a multicultural city and go outside

Please tell me what city you live in. We should switch places. I live in one of the most multicultural cities in the UK (It's about 50% ethnic, which is fucked for it's own reasons), and white girls almost exclusively date ethnics, even Indians, JFL.

I'd say it's ten to one at this point. You'll see ten ethnics with a white woman for each white man you see with an ethnic.

So your theory breaks down, at least in the UK.

 

[BitterCel]

Only whites can be low iq enough to deny jbw. I dare you to live in a multicultural city and go outside

 

[YungCell]

You're confusing ethnics with blacks (and Latinos) when talking about the wealth sucked from the welfare state. Most (virtually all) ethnics who move to west from across the Atlantic make more money in the west and are much less likely to go on welfare than whites. And we are indeed under the thumb of white male supremacy when it comes to lookism, absolutely pathetic if you actually think ethnics have it easier in the west, or are on any kind of "kidmode." We are not helped or coddled in any way, as even the BS affirmative action implemented only helps WHITE women. Even in the small pockets of leftest cities where people like to virtue signal how woke they are ethnics are looked down upon for their subhuman traits. We non-spic ethnics have ot by far the worst on the west. Obviously women are worse in every way.

-im referring to the US in this but I'm sure the same applies to the rest of the west.

 

[tooth monster]

At this point I just laugh and move on. Let the man cope.

 

[ReallyRice]

Women, because JBW spammers actually have a point.
Are you tall and white? Volcel confirmed, get a noodlechick
Just white? Go to SEA
Neither? Go ER

 

[Hate_my_life]

, and white girls almost exclusively date ethnics, even Indians, JFL.

I'd say it's ten to one at this point. You'll see ten ethnics with a white woman for each white man you see with an ethnic.

I live in the UK and can say this is not true.

If you're regarding any guy who's not from the UK but is white as ethnic then yeah perhaps that true.

Although strictly speaking about blacks and curries, that is not the trend for white foids to be dating them.

Also I dont get why people assume ethics don't have it harder. Just look at the stereotypes around curries. Literally everyone on this forum calls them "street shitters" and "thirsty cucks on the internet that ask for bobs and vagene".

Do you really think such a reputation would help them in the dating game?

This was even backed up by the response rate/matches ethnics got compared to white males.

 

[Deleted member 8206]

Tough call tbh but both groups could be put in their place quite quickly if white males wake up one day

 

[guerillahubris]

Please tell me what city you live in. We should switch places. I live in one of the most multicultural cities in the UK (It's about 50% ethnic, which is fucked for it's own reasons), and white girls almost exclusively date ethnics, even Indians, JFL.

I'd say it's ten to one at this point. You'll see ten ethnics with a white woman for each white man you see with an ethnic.

So your theory breaks down, at least in the UK.

I do remember when i visited birmingham once there were a lot of brown guys and i noticed some of them had females which surprised me. Im in melbourne, the amount of wmaf here is insane. Its also a hellhole for brown people in general, we are hated a lot by basically every one here

 

[voiceoftreason]

Women by far.
At least jbw copers can gather around and focus on one issue.
Foids have been whining for the past 100 years and the complaints are getting more and more stupid as each generation passes.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Women by far. JBW can actually be backed up by statistics that whites are more preferred. Women cant be rational; they are all emotion. I do agree some ethnics take JBW out of proportion but all its saying is you have an advantage compared to your ethnic counterparts. If everything else is the same, women will choose the white guy over the ethnic. a 6/10 white guy will do better than a 6/10 ethnic

Women by far.
At least jbw copers can gather around and focus on one issue.
Foids have been whining for the past 100 years and the complaints are getting more and more stupid as each generation passes.

exactly this. They make up stuff to complain about (especially white foids in the west) because they have it so good

 

[Kirito3]

The western world doesn’t really cater to most ethnics. Blacks and Latino/Hispanics tend to derive benefit in USA, and blacks and middle easterners derive benefits in Europe. Indians and Asians are generally disadvantaged in the west, at least institutionally.

 

[Sans]

I think we all know the answer: women. I don’t know why 6 people voted JBW coppers - yes, they may be annoying and all but those goddamn feminists... 90% of the world’s population bows down to their feet and society is in favor of them yet they still have the gall to claim “patriarchy”.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

as even the BS affirmative action implemented only helps WHITE women.

You mean the most privledged demographic in the west? Thats just insane. Meanwhile affirmative action does more damage to curries than even whites in the US. And I think arabs usually have to checkmark "white" in the census.

Indians and Asians are generally disadvantaged in the west, at least institutionally.

This. Both disadvantaged in the dating scene and affirmative action is against us

 

[Teutonic Knight]

White men who support the West are the worst.

All the other groups are just out there trying to get something for themselves, while the pro-Western white men want to change the world to fit their disgusting materialistic secularist ideology.

 

[GoonCel]

JBW spammers/"Ethnics"
i dont have anything to do with women so yeah

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Time to get to the bottom of this. Which of these two spiritually female advocacy groups is worse?

Strong women: Entire Western world caters to their delusions and inferiority complexes, public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner. Accuses others of institutional privilege by using the tools and tortuous concepts developed by these same institutions. Claim to be under the thumb of "White male supremacy" despite being favored, helped, and coddled like children by a preponderance of this same group. Will accuse White incels of holding out for "Stacy" because it doesn't get exactly what it wants (Chad) and needs a way to cope and assign the blame to a marginal group adjacent to the unresponsive party. Thinks all of its supremely embarrassing failures that it's racked up on KidMode are ultimately the fault of White males.

Pieces of "Color": Entire Western world caters to their delusions and inferiority complexes, public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner. Accuses others of institutional privilege by using the tools and tortuous concepts developed by these same institutions. Claim to be under the thumb of "White male supremacy" despite being favored, helped, and coddled like children by a preponderance of this same group. Will accuse White incels of holding out for "Stacy" because it doesn't get exactly what it wants (White Stacy) and needs a way to cope and assign the blame to a marginal group adjacent to the unresponsive party. Thinks all of its supremely embarrassing failures that it's racked up on KidMode are ultimately the fault of White males.

Can't decide tbh.

I hate foids more since they start from the beginning with higher SMV

 

[Deleted member 2798]

You're confusing ethnics with blacks (and Latinos)

They call themselves "ethnic" too, buddy, however much you might be opposed to it. It's just an artificial status available to any non-White who wants to lay claim to gibs and a choice spot in the inverted hierarchy of the ruling elite's victim vassals.

when talking about the wealth sucked from the welfare state. Most (virtually all) ethnics who move to west from across the Atlantic make more money in the west and are much less likely to go on welfare than whites.

63% of Non-Citizens Access Welfare Programs

Now, yes it's skewed because of those coming through the permeable Southern border, but you'd have to be coping hard to shoulder off the blame entirely on them.

And we are indeed under the thumb of white male supremacy when it comes to lookism, absolutely pathetic if you actually think ethnics have it easier in the west, or are on any kind of "kidmode."

Nah, you pretty much do. "Ethnics" might look worse on average, but the rampant propaganda in their favor definitely helps them along from where they'd be without constant affirmation and artificial "representation".

One things certain: they're definitely doing better over in the White man's country than in their ancestral societies, because otherwise you'd imagine they'd all be rushing back to escape the brutal, crushing regime of sexual and economic discrimination instituted by a cabal of White supremacists (Whites, that notoriously clannish group hellbent on the furtherance of their race(1)) instead of fattening themselves on his resources. @tehgymcel69420XD, for instance, refuses to go back to Egypt because "Egyptian girls are ugly and everyone is inbred and the all believe in the sky guy XD there's no updoots in Egypt."

We are not helped or coddled in any way, as even the BS affirmative action implemented only helps WHITE women.

They are the primary beneficiaries, not the "only". Just because

Strong women: public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner. Accuses others of institutional privilege by using the tools and tortuous concepts developed by these same institutions.

is true

doesn't mean

Pieces of "Color": public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner. Accuses others of institutional privilege by using the tools and tortuous concepts developed by these same institutions.

isn't

The western world doesn’t really cater to most ethnics. Blacks and Latino/Hispanics tend to derive benefit in USA, and blacks and middle easterners derive benefits in Europe. Indians and Asians are generally disadvantaged in the west, at least institutionally.

Nah, it's just a two pronged attack, which is even worse. One side existing as a perennially dependent group of beggars, the other . Both are self-interested fifth columns who dishonestly weaponize the rhetoric of "White supremacy" to get even more than they're already given. Indians and Asians earn more than Whites in America and still want to claim membership in the subaltern shock troops. I have to find the table later, but there's a good one showing that, relative to the total proportion of high achieving students within each demographic, Asians are still admitted to selective universities at a higher clip than non-Jewish Whites.

White men who support the West are the worst.

All the other groups are just out there trying to get something for themselves, while the pro-Western white men want to change the world to fit their disgusting materialistic secularist ideology.

Jfl at taking that from this

Pieces of "Color": Entire Western world caters to their delusions and inferiority complexes, public funds are siphoned from productive citizens and inordinately pooled in their corner.

You are such an ass-kissing cuckold that every time you post something I agree with, I start to reconsider it. Despite the fact that the tendrils of feminism, secularism, etc. are rapidly strangling the whole world (East Asia already, wait for the Middle East, it's coming), you're still going to genuflect before the brown bodies and worship their self-interest. Shitniks living in developed countries are crucial parts of the deranged patchwork of the modern West. When Poland inevitably caves to international pressure and opens its borders to the global hordes, you might reconsider your facile "points" once you've had a chance to actually interact with them.

Lol @ coping with the universal Christianity as well. Why don't you ask the Copts and Assyrians about the based Muslims XD






1.

 

[IncelDisciple]

Please tell me what city you live in. We should switch places. I live in one of the most multicultural cities in the UK (It's about 50% ethnic, which is fucked for it's own reasons), and white girls almost exclusively date ethnics, even Indians, JFL.

I'd say it's ten to one at this point. You'll see ten ethnics with a white woman for each white man you see with an ethnic.

So your theory breaks down, at least in the UK.

British women are human pond scum. They're doing you a favor.

All the other groups are just out there trying to get something for themselves, while the pro-Western white men want to change the world to fit their disgusting materialistic secularist ideology.

All other groups are trying to leech off of and cuck white men. Fuck them.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

You found a a creative way to flame ethnics and get your racist vitriol off your chest, good job

 

[Teutonic Knight]

You are such an ass-kissing cuckold that every time you post something I agree with, I start to reconsider it. Despite the fact that the tendrils of feminism, secularism, etc. are rapidly strangling the whole world (East Asia already, wait for the Middle East, it's coming), you're still going to genuflect before the brown bodies and worship their self-interest. Shitniks living in developed countries are crucial parts of the deranged patchwork of the modern West. When Poland inevitably caves to international pressure and opens its borders to the global hordes, you might reconsider your facile "points" once you've had a chance to actually interact with them.

Lol @ coping with the universal Christianity as well. Why don't you ask the Copts and Assyrians about the based Muslims XD

Christianity IS universal, that's the whole point of it, the Catholic Church is universal, it's in the very name. The concept of race has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of Christianity and is materialistic and anti-Christian by default. I have absolutely nothing in common with these so-called "white people" who are -in Europe- mostly apostates and pagans who actually attack my religion.

Racism is a sign of degeneracy, a materialistic ideology, a form of paganism.

Identifying yourself with the concept of "white race" is being a cuck in itself, because the entire concept of "white race" is based on serving the Western states and their elites. Being a Christian means serving the Lord and not the state.

And if we're speaking about race purely biologically, then those Muslims you speak about are "white" (Caucasoid) too. There is no such thing as "brown" race, most Muslims coming into Europe are whites so you should worship them.

The majority of the Muslim world is white/Caucasoid

By your own logic, you should be glad that WHITE people from the Middle East and north Africa are coming into Europe.

And if you identify white as purely Nordic/Germanic, then I'm not white anyway so why should I care.

 

[Salustio]

I chose “ethnkis” but I want to explain why I am not doing this in an ironical way.

First off, the entire JBW thing is divisive and useless. War against other incels for nothing. It’s dumb.

Second, JBW spammers are not funny anymore. Ok, it was funny the first 1000 times, but after a while hearing that these “incels” have nothing to say apart from blaming other incels for their inceldom is becoming boring.

Third. Ok, we got it, women have a racial preference, that’s interesting to debate this issue. But ethnics are not helping with their way of arguing.

4. If there’s something useful to say about this whole situation, ethnic people are just vulgarizing serious issues. It’s a shame that an important thing is reduced to a group of incel idiots blaming other incels for something they have not done to them.

 

[Grotesque]

At least in the areas that I've lived in, JBW exists. Nobody wants to be where the niggers are, and if you pretend otherwise everyone know you're a virtue signaling liar. It might be different in Europe and UK especially, I don't know.

 

[YungCell]

They call themselves "ethnic" too, buddy, however much you might be opposed to it. It's just an artificial status available to any non-White who wants to lay claim to gibs and a choice spot in the inverted hierarchy of the ruling elite's victim vassals.



63% of Non-Citizens Access Welfare Programs

Now, yes it's skewed because of those coming through the permeable Southern border, but you'd have to be coping hard to shoulder off the blame entirely on them.



Nah, you pretty much do. "Ethnics" might look worse on average, but the rampant propaganda in their favor definitely helps them along from where they'd be without constant affirmation and artificial "representation".

One things certain: they're definitely doing better over in the White man's country than in their ancestral societies, because otherwise you'd imagine they'd all be rushing back to escape the brutal, crushing regime of sexual and economic discrimination instituted by a cabal of White supremacists (Whites, that notoriously clannish group hellbent on the furtherance of their race(1)) instead of fattening themselves on his resources. @tehgymcel69420XD, for instance, refuses to go back to Egypt because "Egyptian girls are ugly and everyone is inbred and the all believe in the sky guy XD there's no updoots in Egypt."



They are the primary beneficiaries, not the "only". Just because

1. Sure I guess you could call blacks ethnic but they clearly have more guilt points on society over everyone else
2. I shoulder the blame entirely on them because that's where it belongs, just look at median income by race, practically every ethnicity from across the Atlantic makes more than whites.
3. You must legitametly have the IQ of a cabbage if you think "Propaganda" will make ethnic men any more appealing in any way to foids, it's a BS argument, we all know lookism is ingrained into our minds. White foids are the most loyal of any race and practically all ethnic women perfer white men.
4. Not only are white women the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action but us ethnics who are wither white by law or get our chances worsened by affirmative action get screwed.

 

[Deleted member 4760]

Only whites can be low iq enough to deny jbw. I dare you to live in a multicultural city and go outside

 

[Michael15651]

Foids are the worst known to existence.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

creative

thx

Christianity IS universal, that's the whole point of it, the Catholic Church is universal, it's in the very name. The concept of race has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of Christianity and is materialistic and anti-Christian by default. I have absolutely nothing in common with these so-called "white people" who are -in Europe- mostly apostates and pagans who actually attack my religion.

The Tower of Babel in the Book of Genesis:

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Pretty clear injunction against multiculti utopianism honestly.

The Catholic Church is universal in its pretensions, but there are two parties involved in the interaction here. Do you think you're going to make common cause with existential enemies of your religion because you're both "based and traditionpilled XD"? You spend your time defending "muh based noble shining Muslims " online despite the rich history of persecution they've visited on Christian minorities. Again, do you not take any lessons from the treatment "enjoyed" by the Copts, Assyrians, Chaldeans, etc. in Muslim-ruled lands? Absurd that you suck these people off when they deny your savior and contorted your metaphysics to suit the needs of an ideological quasi-religion.

The perspective has also been offered that liberalism is born out of corrupted Christian tenets (does "universal" stoke any connections for you here?) and is in effect another direct heresy. It's not a product of the "cucked European spirit" or whatever ridiculous assertion you make here. It is not Christianity, but it is genealogically much closer to it than European paganism. The rise of Europe and the rise of Christianity are inseparable moreover. If it weren't for "Western cucks" like Constantine adopting the religion and ensuring its spread throughout Europe, you in all your professed Slavic non-Whiteness wouldn't be calling yourself a Catholic and the religion as such wouldn't even exist. Christianity would have remained an obscure desert cult akin to Mandaeism if it never found its way into Europe.

Now just imagine what syncretic cult will develop within the walls of Western Europe and America become a VIP refugee camp; when these two heresies merge in promiscuous union. You have to be seriously retarded to think the noble savages will tear down entrenched liberal society or do anything but try to advance their own positions within it. They will just adopt it for their own ends and give it a yet more nauseating outward form, as they already have been doing.

The future is ambiguously brown thots lisping "music is haram" in between sucking cocks and you clapping your hands like a seal thinking it's Sharia law.

Racism is a sign of degeneracy, a materialistic ideology, a form of paganism.

Just sounds like you're repeating "race idolatry" memes without understanding what they mean. Do you have any real reasoning against this contention - that it's a decent idea to keep a collective body served by a single state and occupying the same territory ethnically homogeneous?

Lol @ the bagans as well. How much of a shut-in LARPer do have to be to think that pagans have been a serious threat to European Christians since Diocletian? Ridiculous to get mad about a small group of Atheists insincerely claiming the religion of the Vikings and Greeks while supporting the people who are actually attacking and suppressing yours.

Identifying yourself with the concept of "white race" is being a cuck in itself, because the entire concept of "white race" is based on serving the Western states and their elites. Being a Christian means serving the Lord and not the state.

Why do you believe this? Is it "being cucked" when nog magogs vote for the Democratic Party, at the vanguard of degeneracy and exploitative capitalism, at a rate of 90%? Are you so stupid as to think that "White nationalism" is a major platform of "White supremacist" governments in Europe and that the type of person calling themselves a National Socialist in 2019 serves the Western states and their elites?

Better yet, should a person have no interest that those who govern him are hostile leeches?

I know you've read a history book or two "Teutonic Knight", but this is deeply stupid and ridiculous stuff. I would expect you to have learned a few lessons from the past at this point in your education.

And if we're speaking about race purely biologically, then those Muslims you speak about are "white" (Caucasoid) too. There is no such thing as "brown" race, most Muslims coming into Europe are whites so you should worship them.

The majority of the Muslim world is white/Caucasoid

By your own logic, you should be glad that WHITE people from the Middle East and north Africa are coming into Europe.

And if you identify white as purely Nordic/Germanic, then I'm not white anyway so why should I care.

"Ackthshthchshually, Arabs and Kurds are caucasoid so they're basically exactly the same as the peoples of Europe. Btw I'm not White because I'm from Poland"

Race is not reducible to zoological concepts of genotype and phenotype. Even if it were, it exists meaningfully at finer resolutions than "caucasoid", "negroid", and "mongoloid". You are not talking to a Strmnazlercuck straw man who "worships the white race". Do some reading here before you try to posture as enlightened.

JFL at calling yourself a hapa or something because you're a Slav btw. Like it or not, you are a White European and that even more so if you were to immigrate to America, Canada, etc. where the descendants of Europeans have no ethnic connections or networks. I figured I'd let this point lie last time you brought it up, but really you've been under the Russian yoke as much as the German, from the partitioning of Poland in the 18th century to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact (le evil irredentist Germans never gave you a Katyn btw). Your "asiatic" half is as much against you as your European one is. If that's not good enough for you, how about when you were sacked by the boyfucking Ottoman degenerates in the 17th century?

1. I shoulder the blame entirely on them because that's where it belongs, just look at median income by race, practically every ethnicity from across the Atlantic makes more than whites.

Nah. Indians and Asian, who have succeeded very rapidly under the auspices of "White supremacy" it seems, make more than Whites (and still want to have their cake and eat it too(1). They ook just as hard about being "disadvantaged"). All manner of other immigrants are mostly on the dole or in HR sinecures if they aren't the cream of the crop of their native countries shipped over here to work as engineers.

You must legitametly have the IQ of a cabbage if you think "Propaganda" will make ethnic men any more appealing in any way to foids, it's a BS argument, we all know lookism is ingrained into our minds. White foids are the most loyal of any race and practically all ethnic women perfer white men.

Doesn't make them "more attractive", but it absolutely has some kind of influence. To relate this to the dogpill, Chad is the dog they bang, "ethnics" are the teacup poodles in their purses that they use for status, Whites are the dogs they use to do things like rabbit hunting (they'll shoot the dog if he doesn't perform well btw).

Not only are white women the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action but us ethnics who are wither white by law or get our chances worsened by affirmative action get screwed.

Are Arabs and Iranians white? Census says yes, but many disagree

'For young people, with 9/11 and now with Trump, whiteness means something specific.'

www.latimes.com

Arab and Iranian communities for years have lobbied the bureau to create a separate category for people of Middle Eastern or North African descent.

Now why would they want to do something like that? What benefit could it possibly be to have designations for "Arab" on government forms in AmeriKKKa? I just don't understand.

1. (read the whole thread, the hole originally posted "shut the fuck up" in response to an article about dying rural communities of Whites)

 

[Smallondick]

Can't decide tbh.

You are such an ass-kissing cuckold that every time you post something I agree with, I start to reconsider it. Despite the fact that the tendrils of feminism, secularism, etc. are rapidly strangling the whole world (East Asia already, wait for the Middle East, it's coming), you're still going to genuflect before the brown bodies and worship their self-interest. Shitniks living in developed countries are crucial parts of the deranged patchwork of the modern West. When Poland inevitably caves to international pressure and opens its borders to the global hordes, you might reconsider your facile "points" once you've had a chance to actually interact with them.

I hope this happens ... I do not want something unilateral.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

It's universal in its pretensions, but there are two parties involved in the interaction here. Do you think you're going to make common cause with existential enemies of your religion because you're both "based and traditionpilled XD"? You spend your time defending "muh based noble shining Muslims " online despite the rich history of persecution they've visited on Christian minorities. Again, do you not take any lessons from the treatment "enjoyed" by the Copts, Assyrians, Chaldeans, etc. in Muslim-ruled lands? Absurd that you suck these people off when they deny your savior and contorted your metaphysics to suit the needs of an ideological quasi-religion.

The perspective has also been offered that liberalism is born out of corrupted Christian tenets (does "universal" stoke any connections for you here?) and is in effect another direct heresy. It's not a product of the "cucked European spirit" or whatever ridiculous assertion you make here. It is not Christianity, but it is genealogically much closer to it than European paganism. The rise of Europe and the rise of Christianity are inseparable moreover. If it weren't for "Western cucks" like Constantine adopting the religion and ensuring its spread throughout Europe, you in all your professed Slavic non-Whiteness wouldn't be calling yourself a Catholic and the religion as such wouldn't even exist. Christianity would have remained an obscure desert cult akin to Mandaeism if it never found its way into Europe.

Now just imagine what syncretic cult will develop within the walls of Western Europe and America become a VIP refugee camp; when these two heresies merge in promiscuous union. You have to be seriously retarded to think the noble savages will tear down entrenched liberal society or do anything but try to advance their own positions within it. They will just adopt it for their own ends and give it a yet more nauseating outward form, as they already have been doing.

The future is ambiguously brown thots lisping "music is haram" in between sucking cocks and you clapping your hands like a seal thinking it's Sharia law.

You're bringing up some false dilemma where you either support this imaginary "white race" or you're going to be swarmed by some ISIS-like Muslims, like there's nothing in between. This is the same garbage that the right wing neocon cucks promote when they keep presenting themselves as the only thing that separates the West from becoming some sort of sharia-controlled territory.

It's especially ridiculous since I never even once mentioned Muslims here in this thread, I never said I supported the refugees or whatever. I am simply against the West, against the EU and against NATO and everything that these entities stand for. The problem with Islam is a result of what the West did and I don't need nor want any help from Westerners against it.

But of course, to someone like you I'm supposedly aiding some Muslim takeover just because I don't identify with this forced identity of the "white race" and "the West", even though it's the West that caused all the problems.

Our societies are already ruined and destroyed, there is literally nothing Muslims and other non-European immigrants could possibly destroy anyway.

It was the West that destroyed my actual culture and tradition and it's the West that is waging the war against Christianity. Islam is pretty irrelevant in the bigger picture, and I'm not expecting it to save anything nor to ruin anything significant.

The majority of what you call "white people" are apostates or descendants of apostates who support the enemies of Christianity. I have absolutely zero intentions to ally with them in front of some (real or imaginary) "Muslim threat". They made their own bed. I have my own Catholic community, and I have confidence and patience in God's plan. The "white race" is simply getting punished for abandoning Christianity.

Just sounds like you're repeating "race idolatry" memes without understanding what they mean. Do you have any reasoning to support this contention - that it's a decent idea to keep a collective body served by a single state and occupying the same territory ethnically homogeneous?

Racism is a materialistic concept that is anti-Christian to the core, a modern invention that was enabled by the degenerate West and its degenerate philosophical currents.

Just because the majority of people complaining about racism these days are cucked SJWs (who are mostly racist in their own way), it doesn't make racism in itself legit.

People who worship their race are idol worshippers. German Nazis were actually openly pagan.

None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are "as a drop of a bucket"

http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html

Racists are also feminists who worship women and fertility. They don't like celibate lifestyle and virginity.

Lol @ the bagans as well. How much of a shut-in LARPer do have to be to think that pagans have been a serious threat to European Christians since Diocletian? Ridiculous to get mad about a small group of Atheists insincerely claiming the religion of the Vikings and Greeks while supporting the people who are actually attacking and suppressing yours.

The current West is pagan. Paganism isn't just polyteism, there are different types of paganism.

Why do you believe this? Is it "being cucked" when nog magogs vote for the Democratic Party, at the vanguard of degeneracy and exploitative capitalism, at a rate of 90%? Are you so stupid as to think that "White nationalism" is a major platform of "White supremacist" governments in Europe and that the type of person calling themselves a National Socialist in 2019 serves the Western states and their elites?

White Nationalists worship the West and they represent the same materialistic degenerate worldview. They're also feminists and are constantly talk about white women this white women that. Basically their main argument is that Muslims are bad because they "rape" "white women".

WNs simply want a slightly different West (with less illegal immigration or whatever), but they still want the West. They are essentially offering themselves to the Western elites.

The entire concept of "white race" is part of the modern West and comes from 19th century materialism and naturalism. The identity of being white was formed around being loyal to the West and spread its "culture" (liberalism and degeneracy) over the world.

WNs and their kind are best examplified by the likes of Breivik and Tarrant - they go against the weak, irrelevant targets and then peacefully surrender themselves to the police and the laws. They don't dare to go against the elites.

JFL at calling yourself a hapa or something because you're a Slav btw. Like it or not, you are a White European and that even more so if you were to immigrate to America, Canada, etc. where the descendants of Europeans have no ethnic connections or networks.

"White European" is a made up imaginary identity that never existed in history. Literally no one of my ancestors considered himself as such, ergo it has nothing to do with me or my culture.

It's a meaningless concept from colonial times in America that is now pushed by the SJWs because of their own ideological obsession.

You sound like SJWs with your obession with "white males" and trying to force this retarded concept to everyone. Yeah, I would be considered "white male" in the cucked USA, but that's because of their ideological fanaticism.

 

[Joelossus]

Foids obviously

 

[Deleted member 15737]

I hate foids and ethnic whining, but at least I don’t have to put up with foids here.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

You're bringing up some false dilemma where you either support this imaginary "white race" or you're going to be swarmed by some ISIS-like Muslims, like there's nothing in between. This is the same garbage that the right wing neocon cucks promote when they keep presenting themselves as the only thing that separates the West from becoming some sort of sharia-controlled territory.

Hilarious to see you calling anything a "false dilemma" when the content of all your posts concerning nationalism is a scandalous mangling of intellectual currents in modern history, conflating avowedly distinct groups, and inserting your own weak understandings of nationalist movements in place of what they actually are.

Almost everything below this quote is more or less patterned off of this template:

"Actually, basically, essentially stormcopers are evil racists and neocons and they conspired together with SJWs to destroy Catholicism. Basically, actually, they're pretty much SJWs because they are all pagans, which is anything I don't like. They worship this dude called 'the state' and are his friend when they do racism, which he invented."

It's especially ridiculous since I never even once mentioned Muslims here in this thread, I never said I supported the refugees or whatever.

If I had to limit myself to the content of only what you said in this particular thread, I couldn't have nearly as much fun whipping you with your own inconsistencies.

The other two times I've seen you post (in your "Which Nationalist Are Coppers??" thread and in the Tarrant thread), you've been happily and naïvely defending the based and peaceful Mooslims. It's a rich vein to mine because there's an immense history of conflict between them and

my own Catholic community

The problem with Islam is a result of what the West did and I don't need nor want any help from Westerners against it.

But of course, to someone like you I'm supposedly aiding some Muslim takeover just because I don't identify with this forced identity of the "white race" and "the West", even though it's the West that caused all the problems.

Man alive, you are an unbelievable cuckold. Between your superficial familiarity with history and your subservience to modern universalist ideology (all while claiming to reject modernity ), the only thing keeping you from a tenured professorship in a US university is your White skin.

As if it wasn't populated by warring tribes of bandits and characterized by ceaseless interethnic conflict before le evil Anglo-Saxons did racism to them after World War I and conjured strife out of thin air. Your stupidity is perfectly in line with the dominant perspective hammered home by academic liberal hegemony and you think you have any place to accuse the pariahs of Western countries of "worshipping the elites".

Our societies are already ruined and destroyed, there is literally nothing Muslims and other non-European immigrants could possibly destroy anyway.

Jfl, Poland is going to have to be overrun before you stop cucking; things can always get worse. The luxury of being a shut-in who's doubly ensconced in a dank apartment within a monoethnic country and thinks "racism" is a more serious issue than getting stabbed in the grocery store.

It was the West that destroyed my actual culture and tradition and it's the West that is waging the war against Christianity. Islam is pretty irrelevant in the bigger picture, and I'm not expecting it to save anything nor to ruin anything significant.

Way to ignore the most interesting parts of my last post.

The majority of what you call "white people" are apostates or descendants of apostates who support the enemies of Christianity. I have absolutely zero intentions to ally with them in front of some (real or imaginary) "Muslim threat". They made their own bed. I have my own Catholic community, and I have confidence and patience in God's plan. The "white race" is simply getting punished for abandoning Christianity.



Racism is a materialistic concept that is anti-Christian to the core, a modern invention that was enabled by the degenerate West and its degenerate philosophical currents.

Just because the majority of people complaining about racism these days are cucked SJWs (who are mostly racist in their own way), it doesn't make racism in itself legit.

People who worship their race are idol worshippers. German Nazis were actually openly pagan.

None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are "as a drop of a bucket"

http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html

Racists are also feminists who worship women and fertility. They don't like celibate lifestyle and virginity.



The current West is pagan. Paganism isn't just polyteism, there are different types of paganism.



White Nationalists worship the West and they represent the same materialistic degenerate worldview. They're also feminists and are constantly talk about white women this white women that. Basically their main argument is that Muslims are bad because they "rape" "white women".

WNs simply want a slightly different West (with less illegal immigration or whatever), but they still want the West. They are essentially offering themselves to the Western elites.

The entire concept of "white race" is part of the modern West and comes from 19th century materialism and naturalism. The identity of being white was formed around being loyal to the West and spread its "culture" (liberalism and degeneracy) over the world.

All of this:

"Actually, basically, essentially stormcopers are evil racists and neocons and they conspired together with SJWs to destroy Catholicism. Basically, actually, they're pretty much SJWs because they are all pagans, which is anything I don't like. They worship this dude called 'the state' and are his friend when they do racism, which he invented."

You think you're qualified to explain the positions and motives of all these different groups of people with your tike-tier analysis? None of this is correct.

I will note here though:

The entire concept of "white race" is part of the modern West and comes from 19th century materialism and naturalism. The identity of being white was formed around being loyal to the West and spread its "culture" (liberalism and degeneracy) over the world.

Yeah, the concept of race had absolutely nothing to do with exposure to previously isolated and strikingly different populations during the Colonial Age. It also had nothing to do with the development of taxonomic systems or natural science. Instead it was naturalism that the White cucks used to make people worship the state.

The material conception of race is not a mere invention of the political mind (though it does have important political consequences, which we'll get to). It is perfectly concordant with real differences between groups and describes the radiation of genetic and phenotypic diversity throughout the world. Materialist "racism" might not a tenable "philosophy", but few people are trying to treat it that way, dummy. Racial differences are empirically observable phenomena, have led to interethnic strife long before muh 18th century, and have real consequences for cosmopolitan societies. I would have liked you to answer this from last time:

Just sounds like you're repeating "race idolatry" memes without understanding what they mean. Do you have any real reasoning against this contention - that it's a decent idea to keep a collective body served by a single state and occupying the same territory ethnically homogeneous?

WNs and their kind are best examplified by the likes of Breivik and Tarrant - they go against the weak, irrelevant targets and then peacefully surrender themselves to the police and the laws. They don't dare to go against the elites.

"They don't dare go against the elites". Lol what are you, 13 years old? Let's look at this logically there, Immortal Technique.

Those two did what tactically made sense to them within the confines of what they were actually able to achieve. You weep crocodile tears for le peaceful innocents, then you think that blasting at some cops is equivalent to "challenging the system". "They didn't go ham on a UN conference because they like them and worship the West". Real dumb.

Yo yo yo bring down imperialism. The I-M-F. Anti-Zionism ain't anti-Semitism. We be killing brown people for oil. 9/11. Maeks you think... Usually shitniks are guilty of this kind of adolescent dreaming and contextless buzzword bombing, but I'd expect something a little better from someone with an IQ of 110 tbh.

"White European" is a made up imaginary identity that never existed in history. Literally no one of my ancestors considered himself as such, ergo it has nothing to do with me or my culture.

It's a meaningless concept from colonial times in America that is now pushed by the SJWs because of their own ideological obsession.

Doesn't have to be an "identity" for you to be phenotypically indistinct from most American Whites to most people and to be more genetically (and culturally, due moreover to close proximity geographically, socially, and politically) similar to a German than an ookpiller who wants your JBW privilege.

You sound like SJWs with your obession with "white males" and trying to force this retarded concept to everyone. Yeah, I would be considered "white male" in the cucked USA, but that's because of their ideological fanaticism.

"Basically, you are essentially an SJW because you are conscious of the grounds on which they (and I) attack you."

The last ditch effort of the floundering debater is just to dump out unflattering comparisons even if they don't make any sense at all.

 

[Ritalincel]

Claim to be under the thumb of "White male supremacy" despite being favored, helped, and coddled like children by a preponderance of this same group

 

[HostileWaters]

High IQ as fuck. I'm sick of ethnic copers and that poll made me laugh too

Ikr God those copers always reminding us of the clear advantage majority of white men have over majority of ethnic men with statistics and not bullshit anecdotal ethnic models that are half white are soooooo annoying

At this point I just laugh and move on. Let the man cope.

Fuck. You

 

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3rd option: jbb copers.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Hilarious to see you calling anything a "false dilemma" when the content of all your posts concerning nationalism is a scandalous mangling of intellectual currents in modern history, conflating avowedly distinct groups, and inserting your own weak understandings of nationalist movements in place of what they actually are.

Almost everything below this quote is more or less patterned off of this template:

"Actually, basically, essentially stormcopers are evil racists and neocons and they conspired together with SJWs to destroy Catholicism. Basically, actually, they're pretty much SJWs because they are all pagans, which is anything I don't like. They worship this dude called 'the state' and are his friend when they do racism, which he invented."

You're doing nothing but using strawmen and then build your aggressive and triggered monolouges on them. You didn't counter a single one of the points I made. The fact that you need to constantly resort to insults shows that you're really desperate.

It's ridiculous how racists like you get triggered when people don't want to take part in your imaginary concept of this so-called "white race" that was never relevant in history before modernity and still isn't relevant where I come from and never will be.

The other two times I've seen you post (in your "Which Nationalist Are Coppers??" thread and in the Tarrant thread), you've been happily and naïvely defending the based and peaceful Mooslims. It's a rich vein to mine because there's an immense history of conflict between them and

The big conflict was always between Catholicism and all types of paganism. Muslims are a step above paganism because they at least have a conception of God. It's more like a Christian "heresy" than anything else, I view them in similar light as Protestants to be honest.

When it comes to Islam, nobody was more aware about its dangers than Catholics, that's why Hilaire Belloc wrote a chapter on
The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed in 1938, back when the arrogant Westerns thought that Islam was a thing of the past and were about to go to war with each other over the subtle differences in their own pathetic pagan idolatry.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT

Belloc predicted the rise of Islam. At the same time, if you read about what he said, it would be ridiculous to think that Islam is a greater enemy than the West, since the West caused this current rise of Islam that Belloc predicted.

But obviously according to you just because I don't support the degenerate Tarrant and his actions and because I don't support the racist WNs (who are completely anti-Christian) and I don't identify with the imaginary "white race", an identity forced onto me by Western SJWs, I'm somehow naively defending Muslims LOL. You sound like Tommy Robinson or some other neocon.

Supporting the degenerate West against Islam is the biggest cuckery. You have to be a GIGAcuck to do something like this, especially as an incel.

Man alive, you are an unbelievable cuckold. Between your superficial familiarity with history and your subservience to modern universalist ideology (all while claiming to reject modernity ), the only thing keeping you from a tenured professorship in a US university is your White skin.

So Catholicism is a modern universalist ideology? LOL. The concept of "white race" is a modernist universalist ideology, pushed by the SJWs continuing the narrative of "white man's burden" to push liberalism and so-called "civilization" to everybody on the planet.

Racists like you are just their useful idiots because you keep yapping on about this "white race" and giving the concept legitimacy, creating some shallow materialist view of history and society in which the modern liberalism thrives.

If you identify with this imaginary concept of white race you're just doing what the Western liberals want. Why do you think they're so obsessed with talking about "white males"? Because the concept of being white is an integral part of their ideology (which also happens to be only successful in the white areas of the world).

You're an incel and yet you still bow down to the West and worship your degenerate society which looks down on you and supports the very system that makes you post on this forum. And then I'm a "cuck" for not accepting this? LMAO.

As if it wasn't populated by warring tribes of bandits and characterized by ceaseless interethnic conflict before le evil Anglo-Saxons did racism to them after World War I and conjured strife out of thin air. Your stupidity is perfectly in line with the dominant perspective hammered home by academic liberal hegemony and you think you have any place to accuse the pariahs of Western countries of "worshipping the elites".

Typical neoconnish garbage.

You don't even realize that what you wrote here can be perfectly used to describe the West too: the West was populated by tribes of degenerates and characterized by ceaseless ideological fanaticism and conflict before le evil Muslims did sharia to them and conjured strife out of thin air.

Jfl, Poland is going to have to be overrun before you stop cucking; things can always get worse. The luxury of being a shut-in who's doubly ensconced in a dank apartment within a monoethnic country and thinks "racism" is a more serious issue than getting stabbed in the grocery store.

What part of racism is anti-Christian you aren't able to understand? I'm supposed to abandon my religion because of some POTENTIAL threat which isn't even happening?

As a Catholic, I only feel connection to other Catholics, the white Westerners are not only 99% non-Catholic but most of them are actually aggressively anti-Catholic. They are traitor apostates who spit on the religion of their ancestors. Between the apostate and the Muslim, the latter would be preferable. Just like Muslims themselves would prefer a Christian over an apostate/murtad, because the apostate will generally be much more hostile to religion.

As for Eastern Europe supposedly being overrun soon, I keep hearing this for decades now. It's not going to happen, there's literally nothing the migrants could get here that Western Europe couldn't get them. They don't want to be here neither, the refugees all explicitely said that they want Germany or nothing.

Ethnicities and nations are meaningless MODERNIST identities that were created in the 19th century. The only community that matters is the universal res publica Christiana. It's hilarious how you racist would be persecuted by your own "white" Christian ancestors for being racist. Catholicism is the universal brotherhood, and it was always intended to be the universal brotherhood.

Way to ignore the most interesting parts of my last post.

There are no interesting parts in your post. You're just bringing up a false dilemma, strawmen and scaremongering, just like typical neoconnish "muh Islamic threat" WN cuck.

The material conception of race is not a mere invention of the political mind (though it does have important political consequences, which we'll get to). It is perfectly concordant with real differences between groups and describes the radiation of genetic and phenotypic diversity throughout the world. Materialist "racism" might not a tenable "philosophy", but few people are trying to treat it that way, dummy. Racial differences are empirically observable phenomena, have led to interethnic strife long before muh 18th century, and have real consequences for cosmopolitan societies.

So now you're trying to bring up some biological definition of race instead of going with your "white European" cultural definitions where Slavs and Italians are somehow "white" yet Syrians and Iranians aren't. There are differences in skin tone and phenotype and there is a caucasoid race to which the majority of Muslims belong too. So if we're going in this direction, why the hell are you even against Muslims who are mostly of your own race? Osama bin Laden is caucasoid too.

As for 19th century racism, it is a degenerate materialistic ideology that overplayed those differences and tried to construct some narrative that the West is superior becuase of the white race when in reality, the only reason why West got this far was because of the historic Christian (not "Western") civilization that existed before that and which build everything.

Without Christianity, the West is nothing and not worth defending, and if the Muslims will be the ones to put it down, so be it (not realistic though). To be honest I wish that the neocons would be right and Islam would actually be this big threat to the West, but unfortunately, it isn't. The West is really a complex and vile enemy and it causes a lot of damage worldwide, it pollutes the entire World with its degeneracy. So ANYTHING would be preferable.

Those two did what tactically made sense to them within the confines of what they were actually able to achieve. You weep crocodile tears for le peaceful innocents, then you think that blasting at some cops is equivalent to "challenging the system". "They didn't go ham on a UN conference because they like them and worship the West". Real dumb.

Their decisions not to shoot at the cops after being willing to shoot dozens of random people show everything about their mentality. As Western "white men", they have been disciplined to respect the state, to be loyal servants of its institutions, to respect the pathetic national flags and other pagan idolatry, to respect the laws, the procedures, the legal system. They are nothing but servants to the West and its elites, just like the majority of these so-called white people that you worship. All the WNs have their own political correctness where you're not allowed to criticize certain aspects of the West.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

You're doing nothing but using strawmen and then build your aggressive and triggered monolouges on them.

They're only monologues because you don't actually read them thoroughly. I will show this to you one more time in response to your jumbled mess of misunderstandings below.

Straw men? All of your posts are effectively you arguing with a "stormcuck WN" effigy you've dreamed up from nowhere.

This is only the most odious of many examples:

There is no such thing as "brown" race, most Muslims coming into Europe are whites so you should worship them.

By your own logic, you should be glad that WHITE people from the Middle East and north Africa are coming into Europe.

Who ever mentioned anything about "worship an White race". "By your logic". What is "my logic"? "U liek White people so u wanet moar of them because pagan put worship race and 'muh white woman'".

Now why don't you show me a clear example of me misrepresenting your "ideas". I exaggerated and mocked part of your last post because I'm not going to comb through your duels with imaginary opponents point by point. But where have I done the "basically I'm pretty much going to create a stereotype of my liking and then argue with it" routine?

See what I mean about 'gaslighting'? Are you sure you're not a shitnik? You think if you accuse me of doing all the things you're doing that it's going to stick?

You didn't counter a single one of the points I made. The fact that you need to constantly resort to insults shows that you're really desperate.

They were all specious. Here is an example of the kind of dumb shit you say:

White Nationalists worship the West and they represent the same materialistic degenerate worldview. They're also feminists and are constantly talk about white women this white women that. Basically their main argument is that Muslims are bad because they "rape" "white women".

"Basically, essentially, so-called White nationalizers are feminists because I told you they are. I'm going to totalize a movement I know nothing about and provide no evidence for my whacked out assertions."

"...now disprove them"

I'm not going to waste my time picking through all the unfounded smears you riddled your post with, because I'd be spending all day at your behest analyzing your delusions and having you come away learning nothing. If you want these fictions addressed seriously, do more than state isolated bits of slander and cough up an argument for once. You strike me as a midwit who read Moldbug or something a few years back but can't follow the development of his ideas; you say things like "liberal West basically thinks 'the state' is God" without having any idea why you're saying it. You know a few cute taxonomic descriptions of historical Western philosophy ("liberalism", "secularism", "nationalism") but are completely unable to connect them rigorously.

Don't cry at me about "insults". You're a whiny dumbfuck who came in here in the first place opening with:

pro-Western white men want to change the world to fit their disgusting materialistic secularist ideology.

I always make a point to match the tone used with me.

It's ridiculous how racists like you get triggered when people don't want to take part in your imaginary concept of this so-called "white race" that was never relevant in history before modernity and still isn't relevant where I come from and never will be.

"I racist" are not "triggered". I just think you're a smug and confused fag prone to counterproductive copes.

The big conflict was always between Catholicism and all types of paganism. Muslims are a step above paganism because they at least have a conception of God. It's more like a Christian "heresy" than anything else, I view them in similar light as Protestants to be honest.

When it comes to Islam, nobody was more aware about its dangers than Catholics, that's why Hilaire Belloc wrote a chapter on
The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed in 1938, back when the arrogant Westerns thought that Islam was a thing of the past and were about to go to war with each other over the subtle differences in their own pathetic pagan idolatry.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT

Belloc predicted the rise of Islam. At the same time, if you read about what he said, it would be ridiculous to think that Islam is a greater enemy than the West, since the West caused this current rise of Islam that Belloc predicted.

Main piece of evidence that you didn't read this post. I pointed this out myself. If you'd kindly go back and actually read what I've written, maybe you wouldn't have to blame me for your intellectual handicaps:

There are no interesting parts in your post. You're just bringing up a false dilemma, strawmen and scaremongering, just like typical neoconnish "muh Islamic threat" WN cuck.

But obviously according to you just because I don't support the degenerate Tarrant and his actions and because I don't support the racist WNs (who are completely anti-Christian) and I don't identify with the imaginary "white race", an identity forced onto me by Western SJWs, I'm somehow naively defending Muslims LOL.

Lol stop downplaying the level of cucked genuflection you operate on. I've seen you bow down to le based browns far beyond "I don't support the degenerate Tarrant TEEHEE".

You sound like Tommy Robinson or some other neocon.

I sound like bad buzzword man because I point out to you that you flutter your eyes like a preening girl at people who have been hostile to you throughout history? You have so much to say about historical events when it's "Renaissance humanism -> degenerate SJW snowflake liberals XD" or some other kind of convoluted indictment of "the West"; I'm surprised you're mute here.

Supporting the degenerate West against Islam is the biggest cuckery. You have to be a GIGAcuck to do something like this, especially as an incel.

Earlier:

It was the West that destroyed my actual culture and tradition and it's the West that is waging the war against Christianity. Islam is pretty irrelevant in the bigger picture, and I'm not expecting it to save anything nor to ruin anything significant.

"Lol I don't care" is now "muh based Mooslims fight the White!!" just like it was before.

You are constantly shifting ground. It's pretty obvious what you're doing, which is why I'm not letting you off the hook for your posts outside of this thread. Illustrative of you being a standard online character: you LARP as a traditionalist Catholic reactionary (who posts on a forum with porn ads in the banner), but your principles are ultimately spectacular caprice and your conviction totally lacking. Just another sad online degenerate trying to purify himself by the weak, lukewarm flame of a half-believed religion.

So Catholicism is a modern universalist ideology? LOL.

No, dumbo. Explicit "anti-racism" and egalitarianism certainly is though.

The concept of "white race" is a modernist universalist ideology, pushed by the SJWs continuing the narrative of "white man's burden" to push liberalism and so-called "civilization" to everybody on the planet.

Racists like you are just their useful idiots because you keep yapping on about this "white race" and giving the concept legitimacy, creating some shallow materialist view of history and society in which the modern liberalism thrives.

If you identify with this imaginary concept of white race you're just doing what the Western liberals want. Why do you think they're so obsessed with talking about "white males"? Because the concept of being white is an integral part of their ideology (which also happens to be only successful in the white areas of the world).

I'm going to totalize a movement I know nothing about and provide no evidence for my whacked out assertions.

Perfect example. Why should I waste my time with stuff like this? Where is your reasoning behind all of this? From here, it seems like you're operating on the level of:

"Liberals created Whiteness in the 19th century because they are RACIST and so you will serve them because you have that in common. Doesn't it seem like a COINCIDENCE that SJWs talk about White males so much?? - it's because you help their ideology when you are White and they secretly like to be White too because liberalism invented it."

You're an incel and yet you still bow down to the West and worship your degenerate society which looks down on you and supports the very system that makes you post on this forum. And then I'm a "cuck" for not accepting this? LMAO.

Strawman, dumbo. The only thing I like about the modern West is that maladjusted copelords like you are totally unable to function within it. Stopped clock right twice a day, etc.

Typical neoconnish garbage.

You don't even realize that what you wrote here can be perfectly used to describe the West too: the West was populated by tribes of degenerates and characterized by ceaseless ideological fanaticism and conflict before le evil Muslims did sharia to them and conjured strife out of thin air.

You're really reaching here. The two situations are not remotely equivalent; one's a basket case of incessant warfare and pretty much always has been, the other was the cradle of high culture even throughout its war-ravaged history. Faustian culture is just dying right now and at the end of its productive lifetime. You need to read Spengler and stop worshipping le based browns. Magian (Arabian) culture was in the same place 1500 years ago and has for that long been sunken in the state the West is just now entering.

What part of racism is anti-Christian you aren't able to understand? I'm supposed to abandon my religion because of some POTENTIAL threat which isn't even happening?

You seem to have no sense of the fact that the world and the people in it need to be arranged somehow. "States" are unavoidable. You're just dreaming about a world that doesn't exist and is never going to, where people are able to obey only the Church with no concern for how their lives are organized, their resources are managed, or how their safety is guaranteed, then passing it all off as spiritual courage. Assuming you know what you're doing and aren't just prone to living through whimsical fantasy: incredibly dishonest.

As a Catholic, I only feel connection to other Catholics,

That definitely sounds very "Christian", my man.

the white Westerners are not only 99% non-Catholic but most of them are actually aggressively anti-Catholic. They are traitor apostates who spit on the religion of their ancestors. Between the apostate and the Muslim, the latter would be preferable. Just like Muslims themselves would prefer a Christian over an apostate/murtad, because the apostate will generally be much more hostile to religion.

hmmmmmmmmmm

Ancestor worship are RACIST. Plus THE WEST WERE ALWAYS CUCKED.

You've got nice little things like this nested within a lot of your traditionaLARP diatribes that make a nice bouquet of contradictions altogether.

As for Eastern Europe supposedly being overrun soon, I keep hearing this for decades now. It's not going to happen, there's literally nothing the migrants could get here that Western Europe couldn't get them. They don't want to be here neither, the refugees all explicitely said that they want Germany or nothing.

Jfl why even bring this up? Unless it's somehow significant...

Could it be that you think you're insulated from these problems and react with smug scorn to the people who will actually have to deal with them?

You're not insulated by the way. The global favela will visit your door, maybe within your lifetime.

Ethnicities and nations are meaningless MODERNIST identities that were created in the 19th century. The only community that matters is the universal res publica Christiana. It's hilarious how you racist would be persecuted by your own "white" Christian ancestors for being racist. Catholicism is the universal brotherhood, and it was always intended to be the universal brotherhood.

Dumb, dumb, dumb. More incoherence.

How stupid do you have to be to think that Lutheran peasants in 1600 were "anti-racist" ideologically committed antifa warriors and part of your "universal Catholic brotherhood"? Faggy concepts like "anti-racism" are the most modern thing in the world. Do I really need to go combing through books with character descriptions of "negroes" and "savages"? Say, what did the Catholic Spaniards end up doing when they visited the Americas anyway? I forgot.

There are no interesting parts in your post. You're just bringing up a false dilemma, strawmen and scaremongering, just like typical neoconnish "muh Islamic threat" WN cuck.

No, actually.

So now you're trying to bring up some biological definition of race instead of going with your "white European" cultural definitions where Slavs and Italians are somehow "white" yet Syrians and Iranians aren't. There are differences in skin tone and phenotype and there is a caucasoid race to which the majority of Muslims belong too. So if we're going in this direction, why the hell are you even against Muslims who are mostly of your own race? Osama bin Laden is caucasoid too.

More evidence you didn't actually read the last post or the post before that; more delusion.

As for 19th century racism, it is a degenerate materialistic ideology that overplayed those differences and tried to construct some narrative that the West is superior becuase of the white race when in reality, the only reason why West got this far was because of the historic Christian (not "Western") civilization that existed before that and which build everything.

More evidence you didn't read the post before the last.

Without Christianity, the West is nothing and not worth defending, and if the Muslims will be the ones to put it down, so be it (not realistic though). To be honest I wish that the neocons would be right and Islam would actually be this big threat to the West, but unfortunately, it isn't. The West is really a complex and vile enemy and it causes a lot of damage worldwide, it pollutes the entire World with its degeneracy. So ANYTHING would be preferable.

Oh so this is how you rationalize the based Muslim coping. "They're not a threat but I wish they were".

Also more evidence you didn't read my other posts along with all you invocations of "fear mongering" and "Sharia law" throughout this mess of a post. The ones being pumped into Western countries are not religious fanatics and insurrectionists for the most part. They are "gibs me dat" beggars who add their own unique flavor to the stew of modern degeneracy. Lol @ thinking they're going to remove the "degeneracy" part of "Western degeneracy" when they're just smudging out the "Western" and bolstering the latter.

Now next time do not accuse me of "not making interesting points" when you ignore 3/4 of each of my posts to argue with yourself about things I've already answered.

Their decisions not to shoot at the cops after being willing to shoot dozens of random people show everything about their mentality. As Western "white men", they have been disciplined to respect the state, to be loyal servants of its institutions, to respect the pathetic national flags and other pagan idolatry, to respect the laws, the procedures, the legal system. They are nothing but servants to the West and its elites, just like the majority of these so-called white people that you worship. All the WNs have their own political correctness where you're not allowed to criticize certain aspects of the West.

Nah.

"He kill people, but he respect the police. IT BECAUSE HE LOVE THE WEST. IT BECAUSE OF NOBLESSE OBLIGE RACISM."

Did you catch any excerpts of the manifesto or even read a synopsis of the contents? The guy accomplished exactly what he set out to do. The shooting was a spectacle that was meant to produce the bulk of its effect through media wars. The actual, physical violence component was nothing but bait. He succeeded in getting milquetoast cuckservative figures like Candace Owens and Martin Sellner hounded by the authorities and provided the impetus for legislative crackdowns in New Zealand, all meant to polarize the public and incite enmity.

And homos like you fall right in line too with all the facile talk of "HE A WN COWARD WHO HURT THE INNOCENT".

Last thing:

I don't even call myself a White Nationalist or keep the same circles. You've spent so many words talking about "you racist WN" like a blue haired sex defender. Then think you're being strawmanned. You are a deeply confused cuckold coper and I can only hope that you're personally acquainted with "diversity" sometime soon.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

They're only monologues because you don't actually read them thoroughly. I will show this to you one more time in response to your jumbled mess of misunderstandings below.

Straw men? All of your posts are effectively you arguing with a "stormcuck WN" effigy you've dreamed up from nowhere.

This is only the most odious of many examples:




Who ever mentioned anything about "worship an White race". "By your logic". What is "my logic"? "U liek White people so u wanet moar of them because pagan put worship race and 'muh white woman'".

Now why don't you show me a clear example of me misrepresenting your "ideas". I exaggerated and mocked part of your last post because I'm not going to comb through your duels with imaginary opponents point by point. But where have I done the "basically I'm pretty much going to create a stereotype of my liking and then argue with it" routine?

See what I mean about 'gaslighting'? Are you sure you're not a shitnik? You think if you accuse me of doing all the things you're doing that it's going to stick?



They were all specious. Here is an example of the kind of dumb shit you say:



"Basically, essentially, so-called White nationalizers are feminists because I told you they are. I'm going to totalize a movement I know nothing about and provide no evidence for my whacked out assertions."

"...now disprove them"

I'm not going to waste my time picking through all the unfounded smears you riddled your post with, because I'd be spending all day at your behest analyzing your delusions and having you come away learning nothing. If you want these fictions addressed seriously, do more than state isolated bits of slander and cough up an argument for once. You strike me as a midwit who read Moldbug or something a few years back but can't follow the development of his ideas; you say things like "liberal West basically thinks 'the state' is God" without having any idea why you're saying it. You know a few cute taxonomic descriptions of historical Western philosophy ("liberalism", "secularism", "nationalism") but are completely unable to connect them rigorously.

Don't cry at me about "insults". You're a whiny dumbfuck who came in here in the first place opening with:



I always make a point to match the tone used with me.



"I racist" are not "triggered". I just think you're a smug and confused fag prone to counterproductive copes.



Main piece of evidence that you didn't read this post. I pointed this out myself. If you'd kindly go back and actually read what I've written, maybe you wouldn't have to blame me for your intellectual handicaps:





Lol stop downplaying the level of cucked genuflection you operate on. I've seen you bow down to le based browns far beyond "I don't support the degenerate Tarrant TEEHEE".



I sound like bad buzzword man because I point out to you that you flutter your eyes like a preening girl at people who have been hostile to you throughout history? You have so much to say about historical events when it's "Renaissance humanism -> degenerate SJW snowflake liberals XD" or some other kind of convoluted indictment of "the West"; I'm surprised you're mute here.



Earlier:



"Lol I don't care" is now "muh based Mooslims fight the White!!" just like it was before.

You are constantly shifting ground. It's pretty obvious what you're doing, which is why I'm not letting you off the hook for your posts outside of this thread. Illustrative of you being a standard online character: you LARP as a traditionalist Catholic reactionary (who posts on a forum with porn ads in the banner), but your principles are ultimately spectacular caprice and your conviction totally lacking. Just another sad online degenerate trying to purify himself by the weak, lukewarm flame of a half-believed religion.



No, dumbo. Explicit "anti-racism" and egalitarianism certainly is though.





Perfect example. Why should I waste my time with stuff like this? Where is your reasoning behind all of this? From here, it seems like you're operating on the level of:

"Liberals created Whiteness in the 19th century because they are RACIST and so you will serve them because you have that in common. Doesn't it seem like a COINCIDENCE that SJWs talk about White males so much?? - it's because you help their ideology when you are White and they secretly like to be White too because liberalism invented it."




Strawman, dumbo. The only thing I like about the modern West is that maladjusted copelords like you are totally unable to function within it. Stopped clock right twice a day, etc.



You're really reaching here. The two situations are not remotely equivalent; one's a basket case of incessant warfare and pretty much always has been, the other was the cradle of high culture even throughout its war-ravaged history. Faustian culture is just dying right now and at the end of its productive lifetime. You need to read Spengler and stop worshipping le based browns. Magian (Arabian) culture was in the same place 1500 years ago and has for that long been sunken in the state the West is just now entering.





You seem to have no sense of the fact that the world and the people in it need to be arranged somehow. "States" are unavoidable. You're just dreaming about a world that doesn't exist and is never going to, where people are able to obey only the Church with no concern for how their lives are organized, their resources are managed, or how their safety is guaranteed, then passing it all off as spiritual courage. Assuming you know what you're doing and aren't just prone to living through whimsical fantasy: incredibly dishonest.



That definitely sounds very "Christian", my man.



hmmmmmmmmmm

Ancestor worship are RACIST. Plus THE WEST WERE ALWAYS CUCKED.

You've got nice little things like this nested within a lot of your traditionaLARP diatribes that make a nice bouquet of contradictions altogether.



Jfl why even bring this up? Unless it's somehow significant...

Could it be that you think you're insulated from these problems and react with smug scorn to the people who will actually have to deal with them?

You're not insulated by the way. The global favela will visit your door, maybe within your lifetime.



Dumb, dumb, dumb. More incoherence.

How stupid do you have to be to think that Lutheran peasants in 1600 were "anti-racist" ideologically committed antifa warriors and part of your "universal Catholic brotherhood"? Faggy concepts like "anti-racism" are the most modern thing in the world. Do I really need to go combing through books with character descriptions of "negroes" and "savages"? Say, what did the Catholic Spaniards end up doing when they visited the Americas anyway? I forgot.



No, actually.






More evidence you didn't actually read the last post or the post before that; more delusion.



More evidence you didn't read the post before the last.



Oh so this is how you rationalize the based Muslim coping. "They're not a threat but I wish they were".

Also more evidence you didn't read my other posts along with all you invocations of "fear mongering" and "Sharia law" throughout this mess of a post. The ones being pumped into Western countries are not religious fanatics and insurrectionists for the most part. They are "gibs me dat" beggars who add their own unique flavor to the stew of modern degeneracy. Lol @ thinking they're going to remove the "degeneracy" part of "Western degeneracy" when they're just smudging out the "Western" and bolstering the latter.

Now next time do not accuse me of "not making interesting points" when you ignore 3/4 of each of my posts to argue with yourself about things I've already answered.



Nah.

"He kill people, but he respect the police. IT BECAUSE HE LOVE THE WEST. IT BECAUSE OF NOBLESSE OBLIGE RACISM."

Did you catch any excerpts of the manifesto or even read a synopsis of the contents? The guy accomplished exactly what he set out to do. The shooting was a spectacle that was meant to produce the bulk of its effect through media wars. The actual, physical violence component was nothing but bait. He succeeded in getting milquetoast cuckservative figures like Candace Owens and Martin Sellner hounded by the authorities and provided the impetus for legislative crackdowns in New Zealand, all meant to polarize the public and incite enmity.

And homos like you fall right in line too with all the facile talk of "HE A WN COWARD WHO HURT THE INNOCENT".

Last thing:

I don't even call myself a White Nationalist or keep the same circles. You've spent so many words talking about "you racist WN" like a blue haired sex defender. Then think you're being strawmanned. You are a deeply confused cuckold coper and I can only hope that you're personally acquainted with "diversity" sometime soon.

LMAO. What a hilarious monologue by yet another triggered WN coper.

It's hilarious how in all of this text you AGAIN failed to comprehend a single point I made and just attacked a strawman. It's fascinating how Westerners can type wall of texts without writing anything meaningful.

I explained my point perfectly, it's not my problem that you failed to understand what I wrote and much less respond to it in a meaningful way.

You're a typical WN NPC who is triggered by the modern West not giving much damn about you despite your eagerness to defend its ruins.

Enjoy having your generic WN rant in your thread that nobody gives shit about.

 

[Mainländer]

White men who support the West are the worst.

All the other groups are just out there trying to get something for themselves, while the pro-Western white men want to change the world to fit their disgusting materialistic secularist ideology.

This.

White cucks are worse than both. Women and nonwhites are acting in their own self-interest. White cucks are ruining things for their peers without any rational reason to do so, just out of cuckoldry and virtue-signaling. They're odious and pathetic.

Without white cucks feminism and multiculturalism would have never been possible.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

This.

White cucks are worse than both. Women and nonwhites are acting in their own self-interest. White cucks are ruining things for their peers without any rational reason to do so, just out of cuckoldry and virtue-signaling. They're odious and pathetic.

Without white cucks feminism and multiculturalism would have never been possible.

White racists are the biggest cucks. Imagine being so cucked that you worship a race simply for existing, despite the majority of people that you put under this imaginary category of "white race" being total degenerates.

WNs are basically the beta orbiters of the Western elites, craving for every little bit of attention.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

@Ledgemund is the biggest victim. The point of his rants is basically this: "Us white people are the biggest victims. You have to identify with white race, because one day you will be a victim too."

 

[Damo the incel]

Women, because JBW spammers actually have a point.
Are you tall and white? Volcel confirmed, get a noodlechick
Just white? Go to SEA
Neither? Go ER

@Grotesque is 6'4 and white, does that mean he's a fakecel according to you?

 

[ReallyRice]

@Grotesque is 6'4 and white, does that mean he's a fakecel according to you?

Yes, though the agepill is not to be underestimated, he certainly HAD the chance to go SEA and fucking SLAY, he may even be successfull now.
If that framecel manlet faggot itsOVER can do it, then Grotesque should have no troubles.
Edit: I don't know where he lives, but here I see asian women with ugly tall white men all the time and I don't think anybody denies the worshipping of white indivduals that goes on the hearts of asian looking women.

 

[HostileWaters]

Being white gives you like a 0.01% advantage, you retarded mongoloid.

Is that why a fucking ugly white guy SMV mogs an East Asian model to oblivion on SEA Tinder?

 

[HostileWaters]

Is JBW such bullshit that you have to make shit like that up? Just because there's a couple anecdotes of white people being successful in SEA (and that 0.01% advantage only applies there) does nothing to prove JBW. If we're using anecdotes, I have 100x more for you of blacks and ethnics I knew personally slaying. You have no idea what you're talking about.

it’s not a couple anecdotes. There’s multiple examples, especially in this community, of people who are utterly invisible in the west ascending outside of it purely because they’re white. Your examples of ethnics slaying (blacks don’t suffer from being ethnic in dating as much as all other non-whites) are anecdotes in and of themselves because they most likely are rare cases of ethnics with Eurocentric features. To deny the role of race in having certain features and say that being from a race unlikely to have these facial features commonly in it’s people doesn’t matter or is cope is ridiculous

 

[HostileWaters]

Nothing else in your reply was worth responding to, but

Examples examples examples

When in doubt, “that wasn’t worthy of a response”

“Race is Cope bro just have white features as an ethnic bro” jfl