In Germany Height clearly wins tbh
Blackpill Which narrowly wins in your opinion? Face vs Height
I tried to look at this from the most unbiased perspective I could, but even then, I just can't imagine that Face trumps Height in importance. I was actually kind of shocked to see that it's majorly 'Face' that was chosen. I'm 5'3 myself, so like I said, I definitely admit there could be some bias there, but my height has far surpassed my face with regards to which one has caused me trouble with anyone.
Being short as a man is really brutal, I don't think a lot of guys realize how damning it is to genuinely be genuinely short, and not just 'below-average.' You actually may as well not be considered a man to anyone but yourself, because God knows you're not going to be treated as such. You are basically subject to being a perpetual jestermaxxer for the rest of your life. There is something about you that just looks silly and out of place—and you can well be sure that women won't be fantasizing about you taking them to bed during any point of your existence.
I know for a fact that people who say "I know this short guy who's respected" are absolutely lying through their teeth, simply because whenever I wear boots or shoes that increase my height, and I see another guy who is the same height as me (which I'm actually taller than because of the shoes), it really does take me out of reality momentarily just because I can't believe that I genuinely look like that to other people. It just looks dumb, I don't know how else to put it.
This is why I resign myself to my bedroom as a Short Bum™, every time I have one of those moments outsides, it's a good dose of reality to remind me of exactly why I shouldn't even bother trying to make myself look respectable to others—it's just not feasible.
But again, that's just my perspective as a short guy, I could be biased.
Being short as a man is really brutal, I don't think a lot of guys realize how damning it is to genuinely be genuinely short, and not just 'below-average.' You actually may as well not be considered a man to anyone but yourself, because God knows you're not going to be treated as such. You are basically subject to being a perpetual jestermaxxer for the rest of your life. There is something about you that just looks silly and out of place—and you can well be sure that women won't be fantasizing about you taking them to bed during any point of your existence.
I know for a fact that people who say "I know this short guy who's respected" are absolutely lying through their teeth, simply because whenever I wear boots or shoes that increase my height, and I see another guy who is the same height as me (which I'm actually taller than because of the shoes), it really does take me out of reality momentarily just because I can't believe that I genuinely look like that to other people. It just looks dumb, I don't know how else to put it.
This is why I resign myself to my bedroom as a Short Bum™, every time I have one of those moments outsides, it's a good dose of reality to remind me of exactly why I shouldn't even bother trying to make myself look respectable to others—it's just not feasible.
But again, that's just my perspective as a short guy, I could be biased.
Ugly face locks you out of dating
Height locks you out of everything, dating, social life, work etc.
You won't ever be respected as a manlet
It's just the emasculation that comes with being short. It's literally impossible to navigate, it doesn't matter what your personal outlook on yourself is, nobody else will see you as a guy. If you're ugly, you certainly could be incel, but at least people still consider you a man.
Pretty much. I'm also 5'4 so I can relate.
Bottom10% is not burn victim monstrosity u retard
In a room of 100 random men, the ten ugliest would look like abominations
For overall life quality, height is supreme. Ugly tallfags are less likely to get targeted than a good-looking manlet. If you’re shorter than the average foid, then you can forget about getting respect.
Thanks diddy
they are just as important however if you have a large frame you can evade a lot of physical altercations. it's best to have a moderate face (5) and a moderate height (5'9, average in the UK) if you wanna be a delusional normie, however to get laid you need atleast a moderate face with tall height. if you're sub 3 face you're cooked even if you are 6'3, but if you have a 5 face with the same height you will get laid a lot
I'm 5'3 and sub2
in other words you are cooked my guy, copium for life
Faceonality
I'm extremely ugly look like a meth user i have alopecia the worst frame globally not counting medical deformities, I'm 5'3½ with severe scoliosis i sound like donald duck with the worst voice I've ever heard irl, i have a micropenis i have tourettes syndrome i have fetal alcohol syndrome and I'm severely allergic to loads of things so i need to carry an epipen everywhere
consult the graph, greycel 
Fuck is this shit
Height still moggs the majority of cases anyway so point proven
are you a lil dumdum to interpret the chart grey?
it's more like normshits can only rely on their heights to get anywhere
I don't really know but if I could choose I would choose to be a tall"cel".
Yeah
Face matters more although very slightly
thank you
careful there greyshit, you may burn yourself talking to your superiors like that
R u modcareful there greyshit, you may burn yourself talking to your superiors like that
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I feel like these "what is more important" comparisons are inaccurate. These things can't be compared in such a binary manner.
For example, having an extremely good looking face will give you a high SMV at most heights, whereas being extremely tall won't necessarily give you such a high SMV on its own (height definitely has more strongly diminishing returns than face). Therefore saying one is more important than the other leaves out a lot of important nuance.
For example, having an extremely good looking face will give you a high SMV at most heights, whereas being extremely tall won't necessarily give you such a high SMV on its own (height definitely has more strongly diminishing returns than face). Therefore saying one is more important than the other leaves out a lot of important nuance.
No face is clearly more important than voice
You can compare them you just need to find equivalent scenarios
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Yeah, obviously. But when the importance is more debatable (eg. face vs height) then a blanket statement is less accurate.
Wdym by this?
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Height >> face
Because In tinder you can't get girl if you under 5'7 even 6'3 ugly as hell can get more
Because In tinder you can't get girl if you under 5'7 even 6'3 ugly as hell can get more
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he is higher up pay respect now
Look what i said originally
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Yes, but that's just one specific scenario. I mean that making an overall statement is reductive.
You can't do a comparison where top0.001% face with bottom15% height oh wow he's clearly mogger so face is more important
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. You can't just focus on specific comparisons to make a blanket statement like "face is more important than height", there's more nuance involved.
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Unless you're in the bottom 5% of height (<=5'4), face and NT are significantly more important factors. The height halo is severely exagerated, 5'10-6'4 is female gaze, not being excessively short is significantly more beneficial than being tall is, being 6'4+ might provide a niche minority of foids who're height fetishist and will date you primarily for height even if you're below average facially, but that's it.
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You're delusional, there's stats I can find to support my position.
DICK > face > height
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