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This quick and easy chart accounts for day to day life interactions and attractiveness to females. Also i will mention that just keep in mind that the wider your shoulders are, the more robust frame (but with a narrow waist) you have the better at any height. You need physical presence as a man. you need to take up as much space as possible.
NOTE: please read the second section of the thread below the height chart breakdown, it is very important for understanding human psychology and why almost every man in the world will always want to be taller, even if he is already tall. Heavily inspired by a couple of @Fed_911 posts and replies.
1. Height chart:
1. Below 5'7: over unless you have a legit 8/10 face (1/7500 face) or rare cases of jbw in SEA. over in this case means it will be pretty much impossible to get into a relationship unless you get lucky with the things mentioned above. At this height no female ever will feel true attraction towards you because chances are you look like a kid with shit proportions. you will also get disrespected quite often by taller people, if you are unlucky enough you might get laughed at for your height. life will be a constant uphill battle.
2.5'7-5'8: over, but less over than <5'7. still complete joke tier height, height of a average 13-14 yo, or of an unlucky short guy. although at 5'7-5'8 you look human. yes, short, but there is nothing really wrong with the body proportions, head size, etc. its just that you are short, that is the main limiting factor. on a scale of 1/10 this height range is like a 3.5/10 in terms of day to day life and a 0.25/10 regarding dating.
3. 5'9 -5'10: first of all for some reason, 5'9 looks much shorter than 5'10, and i have metioned this many times, in my last year's height chart as well. but basically at these heights you should feel like a normal human. you are not tall by any means, short actually (in 2025 at least), but what i have noticed is hollywood for example (especially late 90/early to mid 2000s and 2010s) is filled with famous actors of these heights, and , dont get me wrong, while i am not saying these are good heights to be, you should feel close to no pressure from people surrounding you in your day to day life. regarding dating, on the other hand, yeah, still over tier. regarding your mental health, still over tier, because almost every 14-16 yo is this height, and those are literal kids, their voices haven't matured yet, they (usually) have close to no facial hair, etc. so it will seem like you are gettingg mogged by literal freaking kids and that takes a toll on your mental health for sure. TLDR: over without a good face
4.5'11: proportion wise - typical male height. even if you live in the netherlands where the average height for high class males (young especially) is around 6'1 (statistically proven data), you should not feel like a manlet. proportions will usually be there. on a scale 1/10 this height in 2025 is like a 5/10 in terms of day to day life and anywhere from 2/10 to 5.5-5.75/10 dating wise, depending on where you live.
5. 6'0: same as 5'11, usually legs are a bit longer. would be a good height if it wasnt average/shorter than average in almost every european country nowadays (among zoomers at least), USA and Canada incuded. Day to day life - 5-6/10 , dating wise - 3/10 to 7/10 depending on your location and surroundings.
6.6'1: looks a lot taller than 6'0 for some reason, the same stuff as with 5'9 and 5'10. can, and usually you will look solid at this height anywhere. like even if you are standing near a 6'7 mogger you will look human. the door frames havent really changed since the 1980-1990s, the regular office/house furniture is still the same, and trust, if you are a solid 6'1 (like 187-187.2 afternoon barefoot) you should feel OK everywhere. now i am not saying this is good regarding women. but at least you should be able to live your lfe peacefully.
7. 6'2-6'3: solid heights. with wide shoulders and a overall good build, you can even mog at these heights, somewhere in the asia probably for the most part, but still. overall like 7.5-8/10 , dating wise these heights are the usually EXPECTED heights nowadays. so 5-7.5/10 should be it, once again, depending on your location.
8. 6'4: just like 6'3 but better. this is kind of the typical tall guy height but not quite. if wide shoulders, narrow waist, good arms/hands/skull, you should be able to mogg quite frequintly. probably still mogger height in SEA, not sure. this is a like a 8.5-9/10 height overall and like a 6-8.5/ dating wise.
9. 6'5: the typical tall guy height. great height, nothing else to say. you should feel at least comfortably taller than average everywhere in the world. mogger height if good proportions. overall a 9.25-9.33/10, dating wise 7.25-9.5/10.
10. 6'6: ultra mogger height. if you have wide shoulders, and a good build you can look like a tank. this is tall everywhere in the world,taller by at least 5.5 inches accounting for older generations of people and at least 5 inches among the wealthiest group of young people in the world (young wealthy native dutch). this is mogger height. 9.8-10/10 overall and a 8-9.5/10 dating wise. Also, should mention that this height for some reason looks taller than 6'5 although the difference is marginal. have noticed this a couple of times.
11. 6'7: like 6'6 but either a bit better or a bit worse depending on the situation. you see, at 6'7 in shoes, you will be bumping your head on plenty of doorways, things like that. but at the same time it is still a mogger NBA nigger height. and dont tell me this is nichemaxxed height. not at all. this height is believe it or not, expected by many women nowadays. i am being deadly serious now.overall a 9.5-10/10 , dating wise 8.5-8.75/10.
12. 6'8+: freakish territory. not entirely freak tier, but getting there. maybe some diminishing returns after 6'7 here and there at 6'8, starts to get obvious at like 6'9.5-6'10. but please note, that tall height , even if execessively tall , can never be worse than around 5'10. never. it is always better to be a 7'6 ogre than to be 5'10 or below. just take this for granted.
2. Why it is never enough:
Basically, you need to be certain height by a certain age. I had never thought of this until saw a couple of @Fed_911 postings. now obviously i am not going to go out of my way to go and find the exact quotes, you can do that yourself if you want to, but basically what has really stuck with me is the understanding that you need to be around 6'1 at 13.5-14 yo, prefferably. You see, thats when the tall kids usually start getting their massive growth spurts, and the teen love is the most fucking important thing regarding women, it should be common knowledge that they hit the wall at 16, 17 max. So basically, if you are getting mogged left and right by tall puberty kids its over. if you are a kid yourself, do every thing you can to grow taller. i am serious. certain things are only worth it during a certain freaking period of time. And so just like that we get to why it is never enough: Because newer generations will in long term always be taller the the previous ones. and everyone knows this on a subconsious level. People want to keep growing their whole life, they want to be permanently stuck in puberty because they understand that there will always be a bigger fish, that females get bored with men really fast, even with the top tier men.
TLDR: it is over for most men, matter of fact, it has always been over for most men. for some of us it never even began.
NOTE: please read the second section of the thread below the height chart breakdown, it is very important for understanding human psychology and why almost every man in the world will always want to be taller, even if he is already tall. Heavily inspired by a couple of @Fed_911 posts and replies.
1. Height chart:
1. Below 5'7: over unless you have a legit 8/10 face (1/7500 face) or rare cases of jbw in SEA. over in this case means it will be pretty much impossible to get into a relationship unless you get lucky with the things mentioned above. At this height no female ever will feel true attraction towards you because chances are you look like a kid with shit proportions. you will also get disrespected quite often by taller people, if you are unlucky enough you might get laughed at for your height. life will be a constant uphill battle.
2.5'7-5'8: over, but less over than <5'7. still complete joke tier height, height of a average 13-14 yo, or of an unlucky short guy. although at 5'7-5'8 you look human. yes, short, but there is nothing really wrong with the body proportions, head size, etc. its just that you are short, that is the main limiting factor. on a scale of 1/10 this height range is like a 3.5/10 in terms of day to day life and a 0.25/10 regarding dating.
3. 5'9 -5'10: first of all for some reason, 5'9 looks much shorter than 5'10, and i have metioned this many times, in my last year's height chart as well. but basically at these heights you should feel like a normal human. you are not tall by any means, short actually (in 2025 at least), but what i have noticed is hollywood for example (especially late 90/early to mid 2000s and 2010s) is filled with famous actors of these heights, and , dont get me wrong, while i am not saying these are good heights to be, you should feel close to no pressure from people surrounding you in your day to day life. regarding dating, on the other hand, yeah, still over tier. regarding your mental health, still over tier, because almost every 14-16 yo is this height, and those are literal kids, their voices haven't matured yet, they (usually) have close to no facial hair, etc. so it will seem like you are gettingg mogged by literal freaking kids and that takes a toll on your mental health for sure. TLDR: over without a good face
4.5'11: proportion wise - typical male height. even if you live in the netherlands where the average height for high class males (young especially) is around 6'1 (statistically proven data), you should not feel like a manlet. proportions will usually be there. on a scale 1/10 this height in 2025 is like a 5/10 in terms of day to day life and anywhere from 2/10 to 5.5-5.75/10 dating wise, depending on where you live.
5. 6'0: same as 5'11, usually legs are a bit longer. would be a good height if it wasnt average/shorter than average in almost every european country nowadays (among zoomers at least), USA and Canada incuded. Day to day life - 5-6/10 , dating wise - 3/10 to 7/10 depending on your location and surroundings.
6.6'1: looks a lot taller than 6'0 for some reason, the same stuff as with 5'9 and 5'10. can, and usually you will look solid at this height anywhere. like even if you are standing near a 6'7 mogger you will look human. the door frames havent really changed since the 1980-1990s, the regular office/house furniture is still the same, and trust, if you are a solid 6'1 (like 187-187.2 afternoon barefoot) you should feel OK everywhere. now i am not saying this is good regarding women. but at least you should be able to live your lfe peacefully.
7. 6'2-6'3: solid heights. with wide shoulders and a overall good build, you can even mog at these heights, somewhere in the asia probably for the most part, but still. overall like 7.5-8/10 , dating wise these heights are the usually EXPECTED heights nowadays. so 5-7.5/10 should be it, once again, depending on your location.
8. 6'4: just like 6'3 but better. this is kind of the typical tall guy height but not quite. if wide shoulders, narrow waist, good arms/hands/skull, you should be able to mogg quite frequintly. probably still mogger height in SEA, not sure. this is a like a 8.5-9/10 height overall and like a 6-8.5/ dating wise.
9. 6'5: the typical tall guy height. great height, nothing else to say. you should feel at least comfortably taller than average everywhere in the world. mogger height if good proportions. overall a 9.25-9.33/10, dating wise 7.25-9.5/10.
10. 6'6: ultra mogger height. if you have wide shoulders, and a good build you can look like a tank. this is tall everywhere in the world,taller by at least 5.5 inches accounting for older generations of people and at least 5 inches among the wealthiest group of young people in the world (young wealthy native dutch). this is mogger height. 9.8-10/10 overall and a 8-9.5/10 dating wise. Also, should mention that this height for some reason looks taller than 6'5 although the difference is marginal. have noticed this a couple of times.
11. 6'7: like 6'6 but either a bit better or a bit worse depending on the situation. you see, at 6'7 in shoes, you will be bumping your head on plenty of doorways, things like that. but at the same time it is still a mogger NBA nigger height. and dont tell me this is nichemaxxed height. not at all. this height is believe it or not, expected by many women nowadays. i am being deadly serious now.overall a 9.5-10/10 , dating wise 8.5-8.75/10.
12. 6'8+: freakish territory. not entirely freak tier, but getting there. maybe some diminishing returns after 6'7 here and there at 6'8, starts to get obvious at like 6'9.5-6'10. but please note, that tall height , even if execessively tall , can never be worse than around 5'10. never. it is always better to be a 7'6 ogre than to be 5'10 or below. just take this for granted.
2. Why it is never enough:
Basically, you need to be certain height by a certain age. I had never thought of this until saw a couple of @Fed_911 postings. now obviously i am not going to go out of my way to go and find the exact quotes, you can do that yourself if you want to, but basically what has really stuck with me is the understanding that you need to be around 6'1 at 13.5-14 yo, prefferably. You see, thats when the tall kids usually start getting their massive growth spurts, and the teen love is the most fucking important thing regarding women, it should be common knowledge that they hit the wall at 16, 17 max. So basically, if you are getting mogged left and right by tall puberty kids its over. if you are a kid yourself, do every thing you can to grow taller. i am serious. certain things are only worth it during a certain freaking period of time. And so just like that we get to why it is never enough: Because newer generations will in long term always be taller the the previous ones. and everyone knows this on a subconsious level. People want to keep growing their whole life, they want to be permanently stuck in puberty because they understand that there will always be a bigger fish, that females get bored with men really fast, even with the top tier men.
TLDR: it is over for most men, matter of fact, it has always been over for most men. for some of us it never even began.
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