What's your opinion on VOLUNTARY celibacy?

[Jackdenswell]

I figured it out. This is the way out of suffering. This is how I can reach peace. All I have to do is remove women from my brain. No more looking at porn, at women, no more jacking off. Imagine the free time you can have once you do this. Feeling that tantalising high libido all the time rather than cooming it out. I will give it a go. Just fapped 3 times, those were the last ones ever for me. I am going celibate and will flex the muscle which makes me hate women in my brain and I will cut myself off from sexuality. Goodbye women, I'd like to thank Gianna Michaels, Lisa Ann and Sasha Grey, it's been a good ride, every other one of you can fuck off. Freedom at last, it will be just like when I was a kid. Mental castration in 3, 2, 1.....

 

[FiveThreeBlackCel]

depends if the bitch is super ugly/toxic/old i get it but if u only want a white girl u just retarded

 

[Jackdenswell]

depends if the bitch is super ugly/toxic/old i get it but if u only want a white girl u just retarded

Check this I have a lowlife chad friend I sometimes drink with. He said he can get me a slut of his to fuck for 1000 bucks. Told me he hates her the most because her pussy is too tight and their sex is too slow. Would you take this deal? (she is a gypsy but very pretty, skinny and not black)

 

[FiveThreeBlackCel]

Check this I have a lowlife chad friend I sometimes drink with. He said he can get me a slut of his to fuck for 1000 bucks. Told me he hates her the most because her pussy is too tight and their sex is too slow. Would you take this deal? (she is a gypsy but very pretty, skinny and not black)

if i got the money yeah

 

[AutistSupremacist]

I can understand if an incel who is economically self sufficient doesn't want to have sex as all romantic scenarios would be the woman seeking to leech off of his wealth. I can also understand if one is religious but if you're some Chadlite who doesn't want to ascend then FUCK YOU.

 

[ZX888]

pay a whore

 

[Jackdenswell]

pay a whore

Would make me too depressed to know what normies experience. I'd rather live in blissful ignorance. If sex is out of reach why not let it out of reach. I get hard on the bus for fuck sake just standing near women. You guys ever tried losing weight to get a girl? I never tried it. What if I shred off 40 pounds? Fuck knows what could happen

 

[Emba]

Volcel if you don't

 

[pauseforever]

Maybe it's possible for monks, but I'm not a monk

 

[Jackdenswell]

Maybe it's possible for monks, but I'm not a monk

It's undeniable that there will be suffering at first. Then I heard the energy goes up to your brain and you basically feel it as blissful rather than as some itching of wanting to fuck, which technically I experienced all the time while being drunk so there's that. I will do this with the aid of alcohol nonetheless. Fuck women. I miss when I was 21 or so I was so depressed from 17 to 21 that I didnt have time to be attracted to women so when I would see those pretty women on the street I couldnt care less, I want to go back to that. Becoming a monk, fuck it.

 

[pauseforever]

It's undeniable that there will be suffering at first. Then I heard the energy goes up to your brain and you basically feel it as blissful rather than as some itching of wanting to fuck, which technically I experienced all the time while being drunk so there's that. I will do this with the aid of alcohol nonetheless. Fuck women. I miss when I was 21 or so I was so depressed from 17 to 21 that I didnt have time to be attracted to women so when I would see those pretty women on the street I couldnt care less, I want to go back to that. Becoming a monk, fuck it.

For some, deprivation of sex makes them desire sex less. For some, it just makes them hornier, to the point of neurosis and perversion. The priests make a good example after they are required to be celibate. So listen to your body and use common sense

 

[Violet loner]

Willingly carry celibate is kinda respectful thing. Whitepill is less respectful, but still cool because guy could shut down his pain from inceldom. I couldn't do that, it's always ache

 

[Caichan]

daaaas funi

 

[Aspiring Janitor]

All I have to do is remove women from my brain. No more looking at porn, at women, no more jacking off.

The only way you will achieve this is through castration.

 

[SilentScream]

You as an incel can by definition never be a volcel. Only sexhavers can be. It doesn't matter if you manipulate yourself into thinking you don't want or need female attention and sex. You do, on a biological level, even. I can sit in my room and try to convince myself, the second you step outside and see a hot chick in skimpy clothes your body will literally take over command and make you crave more than food and water. This is not something that will ever go away until you become old and impotent. The desire for sex is imprinted. It is non negotiable. To breathe is to yearn for women, for sex and intimacy. You don't get to opt out. You don't get to not care. If it was that easy, men wouldn't live lifetimes in pure agony until they kill themselves. You must and you will suffer as an incel as it is the very core of our existence.

There is no peace, ever.

 

[ThanostheGOAT]

I can understand if an incel who is economically self sufficient doesn't want to have sex as all romantic scenarios would be the woman seeking to leech off of his wealth. I can also understand if one is religious but if you're some Chadlite who doesn't want to ascend then FUCK YOU.

 

[Jackdenswell]

The only way you will achieve this is through castration.

You as an incel can by definition never be a volcel. Only sexhavers can be. It doesn't matter if you manipulate yourself into thinking you don't want or need female attention and sex. You do, on a biological level, even. I can sit in my room and try to convince myself, the second you step outside and see a hot chick in skimpy clothes your body will literally take over command and make you crave more than food and water. This is not something that will ever go away until you become old and impotent. The desire for sex is imprinted. It is non negotiable. To breathe is to yearn for women, for sex and intimacy. You don't get to opt out. You don't get to not care. If it was that easy, men wouldn't live lifetimes in pure agony until they kill themselves. You must and you will suffer as an incel as it is the very core of our existence.

There is no peace, ever

I am still going along well but thoughts of "i will do it one more time" are constant. I acknowledge the suffering part. See it's insane how much the nervous system can change in such little time, now after 2 days of celibacy I looked at porn and fel5lt disgusted especially by the cock and naked male present, but I am perfectly aware in 10 days or so I could stumble upon porn and prematurely jizz. But this also kinda proves my point? Making celibacy or not cooming everyday way more natural than being a coomer addict. I am actually excited to have porn feel the same as it did when I discovered it at 7 years old. I remember I used to prematurely jizz just looking at female faces, this would be a very rough journey for me because I might have some mental disease where I am overly attracted to women like waaaay over any treshold of normalcy. I came prematurely just a few weeks ago when some gypsy stacy hugged me back. Do keep in mind the reason I want to try celibacy is because I suffer from jealousy and envy. It breaks my heart and makes me pale and I have heart palpitations and extreme sharp pain in my stomach and tears in my eyes when I see my loser highschool friends have a sex life. And they have plenty slutty girlfriends. Even watching something like Euphoria breaks my heart. Sex is so much more glamorous there seeing all those gorgeous women get fucked is too much for me. Castration is right, I want to do it myself. fuck it i dont care how much ill suffer. I will do it a few more times this sunday night and after that I'm done. Will do mortification by drinking and working a construction job.

 

[Dregster]

For some, deprivation of sex makes them desire sex less. For some, it just makes them hornier, to the point of neurosis and perversion. The priests make a good example after they are required to be celibate. So listen to your body and use common sense

Most of those priests in the past became literal pedophiles

Voluntary celibacy is not a good thing to be embracing as a man who has an average sexual urge.

And that monk mode shit is one of the stupidest redpill copes I ever heard. Most guys aren't celibate if they can get it, what you see is coping retards who cant get laid but won't admit that they cant get laid.

 

[gluttony]

Don't really care about them tbh, they can live their own lives however they wish.

 

[Jackdenswell]

Most of those priests in the past became literal pedophiles

Voluntary celibacy is not a good thing to be embracing as a man who has an average sexual urge.

And that monk mode shit is one of the stupidest redpill copes I ever heard. Most guys aren't celibate if they can get it, what you see is coping retards who cant get laid but won't admit that they cant get laid.

I just cant handle the thought of others having sex. The texts they send each other, the way they can casually talk and meet after they fuck and then maybe just say "come over i want to fuck" to each other. This is too much for me, going celibate can remove this pain. I can watch gore better than I can handle the thought of people having sex especially with girls I like.

 

[TooSomething]

Some types of voluntary celibacy make sense to me.

For example, say an incel wants to ascend with a foid with whom he can also make a family.

Should an incel accept a 30+ foid for that?
Should he accept a single mother?

Another example. The foid is still young, but she has some bad disease, that can be passed on to the kids.

Should an incel still go for that if he wants more than just sex and being together?

You can just say volcel if you wouldn't in every case.

Of course, if you as an incel call escortcels fakecels because they've had sex with a whore, then your definition of ascension differs from theirs and you are in fact a volcel by your own definition, because you refuse to pay a whore for sex.

What is true ascension? Apparently that is debatable here on this forum.

What is inceldom and what is volceldom? Apparently that too is debatable here on this forum.

 

[Dregster]

I just cant handle the thought of others having sex. The texts they send each other, the way they can casually talk and meet after they fuck and then maybe just say "come over i want to fuck" to each other. This is too much for me, going celibate can remove this pain. I can watch gore better than I can handle the thought of people having sex especially with girls I like.

But you're not actually being voluntary celibate, you want to supress the urge after experiencing involuntary solitude.

 

[Cuckoja]

daaaas funi

Basically this, doesn't exists

 

[Jackdenswell]

But you're not actually being voluntary celibate, you want to supress the urge after experiencing involuntary solitude.

How am I not voluntarily abstaining from jacking off? It's literally one of the hardest things to do ever.

 

[Dregster]

How am I not voluntarily abstaining from jacking off? It's literally one of the hardest things to do ever.

Yeah I guess. But you're just wasting mental energy obsessing over this.

 

[Jackdenswell]

Yeah I guess. But you're just wasting mental energy obsessing over this.

I figured maybe you meant to tell me that the reason I am trying to go fully celibate jacking off related aswell compared to the involuntary celibate related to women does in fact stem involuntarily or from a place of suffering/involuntary exertion of will to do so. And you might be just right. I want to be like the people who can watch a deepthroat throatgoat video where the guy passes out from how good it feels or the hottest porn scene (i cant find this one Gianna Dior scene, it ruined me) and they don't feel 1 twinge of "i will never have that". I would take that over a million bucks.

 

[elltom]

I can see the reason

 

[Jackdenswell]

I can see the reason

To escape suffering.

 

[Ricecel Sungnodius]

Can't, because I'm sexually attracted to women.

 

[Paladin]

Legit volcels are based tbh but they aren't that common. A lot of people that claim to be volcels are incels in denial that are just trying to feel better about themselves.

The world would be a better place if there were more volcels because the fact that normies will fuck just about anything inflating women's egos is part of the problem.

 

[xxectrapieces]

I can understand if an incel who is economically self sufficient doesn't want to have sex as all romantic scenarios would be the woman seeking to leech off of his wealth. I can also understand if one is religious but if you're some Chadlite who doesn't want to ascend then FUCK YOU.