I would Need to Change my face and Body drastically to ascend
I cant Keep it somewhat natural, since almost everything on me sucks
I cant Keep it somewhat natural, since almost everything on me sucks
if i had the money id chop up my face like gary numan
Who the fuck cares about being natural or ethical when the alternative is to live in an endless state of pain
the answer is more nuanced; it depends on the individual. Surgery is good at correcting gross deformities, but will not fix overall mediocrity.
I'm interested in getting plastic surgery. My therapist even recommended it to me!
But! I see so much shit plastic surgery that it's a bit scary. Also, I'm already 36 years old so I'm at the point where.... I dunno. I'm ready to die.
But! I see so much shit plastic surgery that it's a bit scary. Also, I'm already 36 years old so I'm at the point where.... I dunno. I'm ready to die.
Neither of those options reflect my opinion on that subject tbh.
I say surgery is legit, it can't save everyone and it doesn't work every time but it's a valuable resource. But I particularly think the idea of having to pay serious money to have my bones and meat mutilated so that foids would perhaps be pleased by them enough to let me penetrate their used-up holes is revolting.
I say surgery is legit, it can't save everyone and it doesn't work every time but it's a valuable resource. But I particularly think the idea of having to pay serious money to have my bones and meat mutilated so that foids would perhaps be pleased by them enough to let me penetrate their used-up holes is revolting.
Females cannot tell whatsoever the difference between a naturally good looking guy, and a good looking guy who has achieved it through facial surgeries. Zettacucked if you don't believe in the power of facial surgeries and don't strive towards them as your primary goal and method of ascension.
Pretty much. We've already been denied a natural society through matriarchal governing. Naturally, as low SMV men, we should use tools that are equally as unnatural as the ones society/nature has used to fuck us over with against itself.
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Were not going to be attractive, but hopefully enough to where were just invisible instead of being circus freaks people gawk at in public.
Obviously it depends on your predicament and which surgeries we're talking about. If you are normie tier a nose job or jaw implants probably won't do much.
If you are sub4 it will change your world but these are major surgeries that require Osteotomy (bone splitting) which are incredibly risky and complicated procedures.
Whatch some videos of the procedure before you decide to do it. After watching the procedure and reading up on the risks and statistics I no longer want BSSO.
Easier to just beardfraud and hide the recession.
If you are sub4 it will change your world but these are major surgeries that require Osteotomy (bone splitting) which are incredibly risky and complicated procedures.
Whatch some videos of the procedure before you decide to do it. After watching the procedure and reading up on the risks and statistics I no longer want BSSO.
Easier to just beardfraud and hide the recession.
lefort iii osteo or bust tbhtbh ngl tbh.
I can't grow any facial hair so I can't even jawfraud
Me either. I am using minoxidil, it can help with this.
I've heard it can make your skin look like shit though.
It just makes it dry. You can use Aleo Vera or any kind of moisturizing cream and it will likely look better than all natural skin. I used to have a lot of skin problems including psoriasis and eczema; none have resurfaced after I started this threatment.
I think Surgery is good. I am very excited about my upcoming nose operation.
surgery for height and frame? if you increase height, you also have to proportionally increase every other portion of the body like limb length, size, shoulder width, skull size etc. You don't want to look like a freak. Only limited application for facial deformities. Major cope for everything else.
Better hurry and get the money
I've had a rhinoplasty this year and will continue to have plastic surgery, it's the best cope any of us are offered.Were not going to be attractive, but hopefully enough to where were just invisible instead of being circus freaks people gawk at in public.
surgery won't help me
it would need to be the most expensive surgery ever but if I could do it I would
It's a trap.
What about your onittis on the Germay nudist beach boyo?
Minoxidil can give you facial wrinkles. Give it a try but keep an eye on it.
It's over for me with her for a plethora of reasons regardless of whether I butcher my bones or not. I don't get the soy reference also.
Never give up the fight boyo. I just like posting soy pics. Nothing personal boyo.
Oh, ok then
I mostly forgot about her already. As they say in German, "Aus den Augen, aus dem Sinn".
Worth every shekels.
I regret I didn't start sooner.
I regret I didn't start sooner.
loooool doubting that super hard, a genio for example is unspottable if not overdone and executed well
overall I must say that I thought surgery is cope a couple years ago. thought that my genetic worth wont go up and its just a waste of money. but once you hate your face enough you simply wont care about those 2 points and just go for it. anybody here who dislikes facial surgery is just a coping fakecel that has not yet gone down the path of truecels
I plan to do chin implant, cheekbones implant and cheek liposuction + maybe hair transplant in future. If it elevates me even to high tier normie level it's much better than being subhuman chincel
anyone who discourages the ONLY way for ascension is evil or jelly
anyone who discourages the ONLY way for ascension is evil or jelly
Surgerycel here. Surgery is great and is one of the 2 factors a true incel can ascend
addiction to surgery might be possible, but its just a cope like addiction to video games, nothing special.
Its true that it is way more expensive though
Assuming that a lot of surgeries = fucked up face is very naive, that only happens if you do a certain type of surgery which would have to be executed very poorly.
Surgery is able to give an incel a lot more confidence.
Which live would you rather live?
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A hair transplant would give me my life back
And LL would make me a slayer
Surgery is extremely important..
And LL would make me a slayer
Surgery is extremely important..
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If you spend money, society wins.
I long ago chose to be ugly and proud. Let the women feel visceral disgust when they gaze upon my visage.
More chuckles and masturbation material for later.
I long ago chose to be ugly and proud. Let the women feel visceral disgust when they gaze upon my visage.
More chuckles and masturbation material for later.
Ive had extensive facial operations which have improved my face, but i still have shit tier skin riddled with stretch marks so it was barely worth the money that it cost and suffering that i went through. its over
Fighting success and money are both important. They serve both parts of the dual mating strategy. Having resources gets you sexual access just the same way as looks, but the foid gains 2 diff things from it.
Foids have no outward indicators of fertility and are receptive to getting fucked even when they’re infertile. This way everybody fucks and nobody knows who’s kid it is.. all the males think the kid is theirs so they all refrain from committing infanticide and they provide resources to the foid. Beta males are useful idiots. When she’s fertile, alpha fucks her for the sperm. When she’s infertile, beta fucks her for the resources.
When foids are picking out a husband, they’re basically looking for the highest combined looks + money they can get without going so high that either the guy won’t commit or he’ll cheat. That’s basically why you hear foids complaining about where all the good men are.. a foid’s pool to pick husbands out of is incredibly small.
both are bad options. it certainly isnt the only way to ascend but label it as cope would be too harsh
Well nice for you if only female validation influences your confidence and not looks. Will probably change if you become more blackpilled. Every user who has ever gotten surgery will disagree with you.
Females rely on being fake. If anyone should be blamed for their genetics and offspring it should be them. Females on average arn't really better looking than a lot of average guys. Even female models alot look like trash without their makeup! They literally paint on a new face!
I can put on conceiler to hide my large pores and redness, but i cant change my face. i do believe that it's not all genetics for men. We can all change from kid to adult but Like my mother said I was a 'fat or chubby' baby. Then i stopped drinking milk. Ate like shit as a kid and was a RUNT. I also believe that things like mewing and jaw posture could of corrected my crappy jaw posture. Just like braces, if i did it right over time my jaw could of looked better. If i didnt look so vacant and messed up my eyes would be better as i have more resting 'hunter' eyes yet often notice myself opening them wide like some sort of delirious fish.
Females fake it to the grave if they 'cheat their face' then so should we be able to. This can't be one sided and it has been one sided for so long.
Not every tall well framed powerful man has a model face.
So I'm all for surgery if it helps improve our shell.
Any rich-cels wanna pay for my jaw procedure I'd be all for it.
I can put on conceiler to hide my large pores and redness, but i cant change my face. i do believe that it's not all genetics for men. We can all change from kid to adult but Like my mother said I was a 'fat or chubby' baby. Then i stopped drinking milk. Ate like shit as a kid and was a RUNT. I also believe that things like mewing and jaw posture could of corrected my crappy jaw posture. Just like braces, if i did it right over time my jaw could of looked better. If i didnt look so vacant and messed up my eyes would be better as i have more resting 'hunter' eyes yet often notice myself opening them wide like some sort of delirious fish.
Females fake it to the grave if they 'cheat their face' then so should we be able to. This can't be one sided and it has been one sided for so long.
Not every tall well framed powerful man has a model face.
So I'm all for surgery if it helps improve our shell.
Any rich-cels wanna pay for my jaw procedure I'd be all for it.
i already have chronic pains in various parts of my body, tinnitus and other typical stress ailments, so i'm fearful of losing even more basic comfort from a botched procedure. main reason i'm shying away from painful and/or risky looks maxing.
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