Discussion What's the next stage of redpill?

[WastedPotential]

In my memory it started with Mystery and Neil strauss (Also I just realised how similar andrew tate and neil strauss look wtf).
Either way it slowly morphed into a secret cool 'skill' men could learn to game women. PUA was born.

overtime redpill became more mainstream and the grifters started getting into it
(similar to how wheat waffles and https://www.youtube.com/@QOVESStudio .org and looksmaxxxing is becoming a cash cow right now)

I think however that the redpill is on a slow decline, so what's the next stage of the redpill?
Will it slowly decline in popularity and die in obscurity or will it rebound in a different way?

 

[AdolfRizzler]

at first i was bluepilled, then i saw andrew tate when he was quite famous, what year 2021?
then i became redpilled, i was able to see the flaws of redpill and that not everything is just like how those redpillers says, i looked around me and i analyzed!
then i saw in 2022 blackpill on tiktok and because already my mind was kinda blackpilled since i was an teenager, i ve accepted it quickly

So redpill always leads to blackpill, unless ur low iq, or some normie

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

It always will end up leading to the black-pill, but as @AdolfRizzler mentioned, normies are incapable of accepting the black-pill—at least, not in its entirety.

What I anticipate is that eventually these boys will realize that the red-pill is simply false. They'll realize that even on the occasions that their efforts finally end up bearing fruit, they often get a fickle woman who ends up cheating on them in due time anyway. Women still treat them like trash, they're still struggling to find dates, and foids still keep trying to take advantage of them again and again.

It'd burn out anyone, really. It'll finally dawn on them that perhaps, maybe, women are just genuinely impossible to deal with these days. That maybe foids don't actually feel attracted to your effort, or your discipline that you so vauntingly display through your muscles you worked endlessly to obtain. Soys also anticipate this eventual realization, but they think that it'll lead to these red-pillers deciding to become blue-pilled instead.

But in reality, they'll see their situation, and they'll just check out.

They'll realize that there is no point in wasting anymore time on trying to pursue women when they've worked so hard for such negligible gains.

You'll see a massive surge in the MSTOW crowd. These guys are going to realize that they're not wanted anyway, and that women are extremely shallow, to the point where they don't even want guys who work hard in any aspect of life. The only way they'd be able to get laid is if they dropped thousands on a girl, and they'd only get a half-hearted effort from her at best.

Still, they'll refuse to become fully black-pilled. But they're close enough, I guess.

 

[WastedPotential]

It always will end up leading to the black-pill, but as @AdolfRizzler mentioned, normies are incapable of accepting the black-pill—at least, not in its entirety.

What I anticipate is that eventually these boys will realize that the red-pill is simply false. They'll realize that even on the occasions that their efforts finally end up bearing fruit, they often get a fickle woman who ends up cheating on them in due time anyway. Women still treat them like trash, they're still struggling to find dates, and foids keep trying to take advantage of them again and again.

It'd burn out anyone, really. It'll finally dawn on them that perhaps, maybe, women are just genuinely impossible to deal with these days. That maybe foids don't actually feel attracted to your effort, or your discipline that you so vauntingly display through your muscles you worked endlessly to obtain. Soys also anticipate this, but they think that it'll lead to these red-pillers deciding to become blue-pilled instead.

But in reality, they'll see their situation, and they'll just check out.

They'll realize that there is no point in wasting anymore time on trying to pursue women when they've worked so hard for such negligible gains.

You'll see a massive surge in the MSTOW crowd. These guys are going to realize that they're not wanted anyway, and that women are extremely shallow, to the point where they don't even want guys who work hard in any aspect of life. The only way they'd be able to get laid is if they dropped thousands on a girl, and they'd only get a half-hearted effort from her.

Still, they'll refuse to become fully black-pilled. But they're close enough, I guess.

I partially agree with this, I think compared to now while yes more people will abandon the red pill and go for the blackpill.

I don't think the redpill will completely die out. As long as there are mtn to chads.
There'll be money to be made from those guys to sell to clueless teenagers and youngsters.

But I think it won't be called redpill anymore I think it'll be called different or be framed less politically incorrect to appeal to a more contemporary crowd.

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

I partially agree with this, I think compared to now while yes more people will abandon the red pill and go for the blackpill.

I don't think the redpill will completely die out. As long as there are mtn to chads.
There'll be money to be made from those guys to sell to clueless teenagers and youngsters.

But I think it won't be called redpill anymore I think it'll be called different or be framed less politically incorrect to appeal to a more contemporary crowd.

I'd agree if women's standards weren't skyrocketing. You'll soon see the vast majority of men be labeled "sub-5" in just a decade or two.

Honestly, I might write a bigger post regarding how I anticipate that men will react to their loneliness at large. I think we'll end up seeking to forge closer bonds with our friends, and establish brotherhoods between ourselves. Ultimately, men will likely find a way through it, and I think it will always lead to a brighter future, one with women becoming oppressed again.

 

[WastedPotential]

I'd agree if women's standards weren't skyrocketing. You'll soon see the vast majority of men be labeled "sub-5" in just a decade or two.

Could be tru

Honestly, I might write a bigger post regarding how I anticipate that men will react to their loneliness at large. I think we'll end up seeking to forge closer bonds with our friends, and establish brotherhoods between ourselves. Ultimately, men will likely find a way through it, and I think it will always lead to a brighter future, one with women becoming oppressed again.

Looking forward to it, tag me when it's ready

 

[AdolfRizzler]

I think it will always lead to a brighter future, one with women becoming oppressed again.

I made this statement in other thread i wrote about history and incel revolution, but my problem is that i don t care about the future, when they will become oppresed again, i will be dead, i will fucking die a virgin, i want now to fuck, i want now a foid as a ,,girlfriend" not when i will die!

so my problem is now, not when normies finally founds that only 5% - 1% of males can fucks all the foids and reproduce with them!

so basically for me still nevER began, even if the future might be better for all males, but when that will be, i m already dead

 

[WastedPotential]

I made this statement in other thread i wrote about history and incel revolution, but my problem is that i don t care about the future, when they will become oppresed again, i will be dead, i will fucking die a virgin, i want now to fuck, i want now a foid as a ,,girlfriend" not when i will die!

so my problem is now, not when normies finally founds that only 5% - 1% of males can fucks all the foids and reproduce with them!

so basically for me still nevER began, even if the future might be better for all males, but when that will be, i m already dead

I'd agree if women's standards weren't skyrocketing. You'll soon see the vast majority of men be labeled "sub-5" in just a decade or two.

Honestly, I might write a bigger post regarding how I anticipate that men will react to their loneliness at large. I think we'll end up seeking to forge closer bonds with our friends, and establish brotherhoods between ourselves. Ultimately, men will likely find a way through it, and I think it will always lead to a brighter future, one with women becoming oppressed again.

I think an incel revolution is giga cope,

And like @AdolfRizzler ssaid even if it does happen we'll be long dead before it happens. I beleive things will only get worse from now on.

 

[AdolfRizzler]

I beleive things will only get worse from now on.

100% i even made other threads where i said the same thing, it s very bad now but it only gets even worse from now on

 

[WastedPotential]

100% i even made other threads where i said the same thing, it s very bad now but it only gets even worse from now on

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

I think an incel revolution is giga cope,

And like @AdolfRizzler ssaid even if it does happen we'll be long dead before it happens. I beleive things will only get worse from now on.

I'm sort of half-half on it. At one point, I was wildly optimistic that it was a certainty. But honestly, my recent interactions with other men have led to me becoming rather disillusioned with them. I often find that I severely underestimate just how much men will actually simp for women.

And yeah, if it does happen, we'll be dead or pretty old by that point. I still would like to imagine that mankind ends up getting a hold of himself, and at least try to bring about a just world.

 

[WastedPotential]

I'm sort of half-half on it. At one point, I was wildly optimistic that it was a certainty. But honestly, my recent interactions with other men have led to me becoming rather disillusioned with them. I often find that I severely underestimate just how much men will actually simp for women.

And yeah, if it does happen, we'll be dead or pretty old by that point. I still would like to imagine that mankind ends up getting a hold of himself, and at least try to bring about a just world.

Well so far living standards going up has been a pretty stable trend, even for third world countries nowadays, but I don't know if that would translate to a better world for future incels, who knows maybe?

But yeah most men are extreme simps. just google only fans statistics or go to degenerate porn subreddits and you will be reminded by that.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I think the next redpill is fully accepted lookism for men. Accepting makeup, surgeries, whatever it takes in pathetic attempts to be attractive. Which won't work because women are drawn to genetics.

 

[WastedPotential]

I think the next redpill is fully accepted lookism for men. Accepting makeup, surgeries, whatever it takes in pathetic attempts to be attractive. Which won't work because women are drawn to genetics.

Interesting, I suppose with surgery/prosthetics and lookism theory etc. becoming more accessible and maybe acceptable, redpill could partially morph a bit with the blackpill there, but I do agree that foids at least for now only care about genetics. In the current day women make fun of men for limb lengthening surgery.
And surgery isn't at all to the point where a subhuman can look good enough.

Most likely we won't see surgerymaxxing be a thing in our lifetime to the point where it's actually something hopeful. And even then it would still cost millions anyway.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Redpill and bluepill are the same goyslop

Take the blackpill.

 

[Freixel]

Honestly, I might write a bigger post regarding how I anticipate that men will react to their loneliness at large. I think we'll end up seeking to forge closer bonds with our friends, and establish brotherhoods between ourselves. Ultimately, men will likely find a way through it, and I think it will always lead to a brighter future, one with women becoming oppressed again.

Finally, someone with hope and vision for the future in this forum of suicidal depressives.

 

[WastedPotential]

Redpill and bluepill are the same goyslop

Take the blackpill.

blackpill always comes to collect

 

[Takeyami1987]

It always will end up leading to the black-pill, but as @AdolfRizzler mentioned, normies are incapable of accepting the black-pill—at least, not in its entirety.

What I anticipate is that eventually these boys will realize that the red-pill is simply false. They'll realize that even on the occasions that their efforts finally end up bearing fruit, they often get a fickle woman who ends up cheating on them in due time anyway. Women still treat them like trash, they're still struggling to find dates, and foids still keep trying to take advantage of them again and again.

It'd burn out anyone, really. It'll finally dawn on them that perhaps, maybe, women are just genuinely impossible to deal with these days. That maybe foids don't actually feel attracted to your effort, or your discipline that you so vauntingly display through your muscles you worked endlessly to obtain. Soys also anticipate this eventual realization, but they think that it'll lead to these red-pillers deciding to become blue-pilled instead.

But in reality, they'll see their situation, and they'll just check out.

They'll realize that there is no point in wasting anymore time on trying to pursue women when they've worked so hard for such negligible gains.

You'll see a massive surge in the MSTOW crowd. These guys are going to realize that they're not wanted anyway, and that women are extremely shallow, to the point where they don't even want guys who work hard in any aspect of life. The only way they'd be able to get laid is if they dropped thousands on a girl, and they'd only get a half-hearted effort from her at best.

Still, they'll refuse to become fully black-pilled. But they're close enough, I guess.

men will shift to AI girlfriends, sex dolls and very soon robot girlfriends, which is actually good. All incel revolution fantasies are cope. AI and robotics will be the only chance to reign in hypergamy once and for all without a larp revolution