What's the difference between a guy going a long time without sex and an incel?

[The End]

I have a friend who didn't get laid until he was in his late twenties, and it was to some seriously crazy fat white chick. They had a kid together but didn't marry, and finally he couldn't take her anymore so split from her.

It's been about 3 years since he has gotten laid. But, I do not think he would consider himself an incel - at least the way we think of it here on this forum. He's ugly, ethnic, getting fat, and has no prospects - no dates or anything. It's likely he'll never have sex again.

So why do you think this friend of mine is just going along with being forgotten by the opposite sex, while myself (and yous guys) are livid? Why is being an involuntary celibate seen as being a fringe group, when you could say any guy who hasn't fucked in a year is basically an involuntary celibate (since he would take the chance to fuck if given the opportunity)?

We make fun of the betas/white-knights/nice-guys who vociferously condemn us, although they are more or less in the same position as we are. Wouldn't they, technically, be incels?

 

[SmugMohito]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

 

[Hunter]

if the guy goes without sex for a longtime without trying or by choice then he is volcel. if he wants to but cant then he is incel.
incel is not just a community, its a state of being.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

Wrong! It disqualifies you as a truecel but not as an incel.

 

[SmugMohito]

Wrong! It disqualifies you as a truecel but not as an incel.

He got a girl to give him the greatest achievement she could possibly offer. He might not be chad but he isn't an incel. Failed Normie is as low as he can get.

 

[VLÖ]

Wrong! It disqualifies you as a truecel but not as an incel.

Truth is, if you got laid once you can easily get laid again.

Denying this is just coping.

 

[The End]

Truth is, if you got laid once you can easily get laid again.

Denying this is just coping.

And you know this because....?

 

[FeminismsCancer]

He got a girl to give him the greatest achievement she could possibly offer. He might not be chad but he isn't an incel. Failed Normie is as low as he can get.

He's celibate and it's not by choice (involuntary) so by definition he is incel. Past lucky breaks might be due to conditions no longer available (hair is a classic) to the individual.

 

[Dopeycel]

DNA dude has already spread it, completing his mission

 

[VLÖ]

And you know this because....?

Because that shows you are not repulsive. A womyn agreed to let you near her body.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

Truth is, if you got laid once you can easily get laid again.

Denying this is just coping.

Wrong! I was younger and had hair. Hypergamy has also worsened tremendously since the late 1990s.

 

[SmugMohito]

He's celibate and it's not by choice (involuntary) so by definition he is incel. Past lucky breaks might be due to conditions no longer available (hair is a classic) to the individual.

With that theory any other Normie that's down on their luck is an incel.

 

[acnescarcel]

i believe you're an incel if you haven't had sex in a few years and the looks that got you a girl have changed i.e you got bald, got acne scars in my case, or something else. a lot of people here are virgins so of course they're going to hate on non virgins but involuntary celibate means you're trying to have sex but you can't get any not that you've never had sex ever. or else why not just call this site virgins.me?

 

[VLÖ]

Wrong! I was younger and had hair. Hypergamy has also worsened tremendously since the late 1990s.

Then it's your fault you didn't actively seek out girls in your youth and just sat on your ass waiting for oldness to tick by.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

With that theory any other Normie that's down on their luck is an incel.

What's so hard about using the term truecel for a virgin? Redefining words don't change facts.

 

[The End]

Because that shows you are not repulsive. A womyn agreed to let you near her body.

Spoiler: bragging - My reply,

You know, I thought once I got laid it would all start coming together. It didn't.

I basically tricked mentally-ill obese sluts to gimme a fuck or two. Then they wised up and left. Years later, I got one more of the same type. It's been 4 years since my last lay, and I certainly don't feel that is by choice.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

i believe you're an incel if you haven't had sex in a few years and the looks that got you a girl have changed i.e you got bald, got acne scars in my case, or something else. a lot of people here are virgins so of course they're going to hate on non virgins but involuntary celibate means you're trying to have sex but you can't get any not that you've never had sex ever. or else why not just call this site virgins.me?

This. We already have the word TRUECEL to designate what these purists mean it to be.

 

[SmugMohito]

I believe if you aren't a virgin then you are automatically a failed normie. Any one who isn't a virgin should not be able to sympathize with us because they have experienced something we crave so much and by being around us they are constantly flaunting it in our face.

Normie begone!

 

[FeminismsCancer]

Then it's your fault you didn't actively seek out girls in your youth and just sat on your ass waiting for oldness to tick by.

That's besides the point. I'm still an incel at this moment.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

involuntary celibate means you're trying to have sex but you can't get any not that you've never had sex ever. or else why not just call this site virgins.me?

High IQ answer. Listen up people! It´s in the fucking words, no need to analyse it anymore.
Involentary = out of your control
Celibate = No sex
What is so hard to understand, then it doesn´t matter what happened years ago. If you can´t get sex no matter how hard you try you´re involentary celibate! Maybe not a truecel but definitely an incel!

 

[JustNotBeingChad]

I have had sex before, under specific circumstances, fat, 2/10, younger, kinda drunk, recently dump by Chad girl.
How many years ago?? 5 years ago.
Do I want to have sex? Yes.
Do I get sex? No
By my choice? No
=Inceldom
Im not a truecel, but definitely an incel. To me, 1 year trying it and not achieving it makes you Incel

 

[MarchofthePawns]

The fact that this community fights as much as it does pretty much guarantees not much will come in the form of solutions.
Not a fan of TRP, but at least those guys are trying to figure their world out.

 

[NijuGMD]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

you mixed up incel and truecel

 

[VLÖ]

you mixed up incel and truecel

I'm sorry you are no fucking authority on this lmao.

 

[NijuGMD]

I'm sorry you are no fucking authority on this lmao.

I just read the rules lol

 

[Weirdcel]

Truth is, if you got laid once you can easily get laid again.

Denying this is just coping.

 

[VLÖ]

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No argument as usual, just trolling. Lying to people about being incels, jfl .

 

[Weirdcel]

No argument as usual, just trolling. Lying to people about being incels, jfl .

Come on, do you really believe sex is easy to come by for a sub8 man? No. Women don't put out so easily for anyone who's not Chad.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Yes the actual amount of incels are a lot higher than those who fit the elitist description that dictates here. I'd say that at around 50% of men are incels, if you tried but still can't get girls that are your looksmatch you are an incel tbh.

 

[Flabcel Repulsive]

I have a friend who didn't get laid until he was in his late twenties, and it was to some seriously crazy fat white chick. They had a kid together but didn't marry, and finally he couldn't take her anymore so split from her.

It's been about 3 years since he has gotten laid. But, I do not think he would consider himself an incel - at least the way we think of it here on this forum. He's ugly, ethnic, getting fat, and has no prospects - no dates or anything. It's likely he'll never have sex again.

So why do you think this friend of mine is just going along with being forgotten by the opposite sex, while myself (and yous guys) are livid? Why is being an involuntary celibate seen as being a fringe group, when you could say any guy who hasn't fucked in a year is basically an involuntary celibate (since he would take the chance to fuck if given the opportunity)?

We make fun of the betas/white-knights/nice-guys who vociferously condemn us, although they are more or less in the same position as we are. Wouldn't they, technically, be incels?

Of course they are incels and your loser friend is an incel. Incel = Involuntary Celibate. It's all it means. Being incel does not mean you belong to some special group with a specific agenda or ideology, nor that you're a card carrying member of the misogynist party.

The PTB on the other hand would love to transform inceldom from a social category into an ideological grouping with a very specific set of ideas that produce ER's from time to time as a consequence of the ideas held. That way the group can be isolated, fought, shown no compassion, declared terrorist, silenced and destroyed.

 

[Flabcel Repulsive]

Well it goes like this:
1 Chad: Can have sex multiple times a week if he wants. In fact even when he doesn't want to have sex females still want to have sex with him.
2 Normie: Can have sex once a month, needs to keep taking care of himself to keep fucking. Girls will not approach, he has to approach the females.
3 Beta Cuck: The females have sex with him once a year. Along that year the females use him as a wallet, basically beta cucks are the females suckers, white knights that had pussy 3 years ago and now defend the females like dogs.
4 Failed Normie: Had sex once in his life, and due to diseases, accidents or aging can't have sex again.
5 Incel: Is virgin and can't have sex, because the females avoid him for any reason.
6 Truecel: ???
I can't define a truecel very well : P give me some ideas please

While this is a pretty decent breakdown I would have to disagree about one of the points. A virgin is a virgin. A virgin can be incel, but an incel does not have to be a virgin. Incel only means "involuntary celibate". In other words, the "Failed Normie" category actually isn't needed or should have another definition. What it describes are simply incels who - by some weird fluke or extraordinary circumstances once or twice in their lives - happen not to be virgins.

I could take myself as an example. I'm close to 50, but back in my mid 20's (this was in the 90's), I managed to get laid not only once but TWICE within the span of a single month. By the time I had for years considered it impossible, but then it suddenly happened. However, this feat was never to be repeated, so while it technically does not make me a virgin, having a total score of 2 during a 47 year lifetime - during which I've had sexual yearnings since the age of 6 - it does render me the status of incel.

 

[starystulejarz]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

/thread

Normies OUT!

 

[IncelmaBinHardon]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

Disagree. Many people are relatively normal till something, such as illness or an affliction that alters their appearance, after which they become incel.

 

[NekoStance]

I thought this was going to be one of those baddum-tsh jokes

 

[whogivesafucc]

incels are forever.

 

[narcissist]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

 

[_incelinside]

Despite the opinions of other users here if he is looking to have sex for a extended period of time and unable to find it he is by definition 'involuntarily celibate'

 

[Flabcel Repulsive]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

No, that's a virgin, not an incel, although an incel can be, and often is, a virgin.

To return to the heading of this thread:

"What's the difference between a guy going a long time without sex and an incel?"

Answer: None. A guy going a long time without sex is incel (involuntary celibate) by definition.

 

[BrokenRotten]

I have a friend who didn't get laid until he was in his late twenties, and it was to some seriously crazy fat white chick. They had a kid together but didn't marry, and finally he couldn't take her anymore so split from her.

It's been about 3 years since he has gotten laid. But, I do not think he would consider himself an incel - at least the way we think of it here on this forum. He's ugly, ethnic, getting fat, and has no prospects - no dates or anything. It's likely he'll never have sex again.

So why do you think this friend of mine is just going along with being forgotten by the opposite sex, while myself (and yous guys) are livid? Why is being an involuntary celibate seen as being a fringe group, when you could say any guy who hasn't fucked in a year is basically an involuntary celibate (since he would take the chance to fuck if given the opportunity)?

We make fun of the betas/white-knights/nice-guys who vociferously condemn us, although they are more or less in the same position as we are. Wouldn't they, technically, be incels?

What's the difference between someone who has lost their virginity and someone who has never had any sort of intimacy? Think hard about your own question.

 

[FACEandLMS]

If you have had had sex at all you are automatically NOT an incel. No questions asked.

You might have sex on your 99th birthday so inceldom can only be granted after death. You are an incel-so-far. Right?
Do you autists realize that VIRGIN is the fucking word you're looking for. Or Truecel? If you are celebate against your wishes, you are INVOLUNTARILY CELEBATE. Do you need me to draw a pie chart or some shit? kek

 

[SmugMohito]

You might have sex on your 99th birthday so inceldom can only be granted after death. You are an incel-so-far. Right?
Do you autists realize that VIRGIN is the fucking word you're looking for. Or Truecel? If you are celebate against your wishes, you are INVOLUNTARILY CELEBATE. Do you need me to draw a pie chart or some shit? kek

I guess every normie that can't get any sex is an incel then.

 

[big nose bug eyes]

Truth is, if you got laid once you can easily get laid again.

Denying this is just coping.

Not even remotely true, see Sodini, the original ER.

 

[GreenCel]

@FACEandLMS you're a fakecel. I saw how normies were praising your posts in their videos and talking about your youtube channel. Stop acting incel, bitch.

 

[FACEandLMS]

Because that shows you are not repulsive. A womyn agreed to let you near her body.

Do you realize how much dating changed for men between 2007 and 2018. Tinder, etc.

Do you realize that a man's looks may worsen in that same time-period.

I am sure that you are NT enough to admit that a man who has sex in 2005, then gets his limbs blown off my a landmine in 2006, now qualifies as incel. And he is more incel than YOU. I'm sure you're levelheaded enough to recognize that fact. What you seem to miss is that being limbless is the only thing that women discriminate on.

@FACEandLMS you're a fakecel. I saw how normies were praising your posts in their videos and talking about your youtube channel. Stop acting incel, bitch.

Because I'm not an autistic schoolshooter-to-be, I don't qualify as incel? For your info, I am incel because of my FACE, not because I am a friendless autist who can't make eyecontact with members of mankind. I guarantee you I have done more to get sex than you have. If you wanna go toe-to-toe on this, let me know. We can start with how much cosmetic surgery you've had...

I guess every normie that can't get any sex is an incel then.

That would be an accurate definition pretty much. That normie may be a standardscel, volcel, mentalcel, locationcel etc, but not being able to get sex/love over a sustained period of time despite trying pretty much qualifies you as incel. I don't mean over a year. I mean like 5 years, 10 years etc.

Also, it's not as black and white as you aspies make out. On this forum a 17yo who approached 1 girl and got rejected is seen as more incel than a 45 yo who got rejected by 300 women but got sex once.

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By the defintion of "incel" by many aspies here, if BO2cel got sex ONCE at age 35, vs an aspie @Weed -lookalike was still a virgin at 17, then Weed is the incel and BO2cel isn't.

Then that would shit on looks theory.

You dumbarses.

> N U A N C E S
> SHADES OF MEANING
> NOT BLACK-AND-WHITE
> NEUROTYPICAL
> LEAVE THE BASEMENT

 

[VLÖ]

Do you realize how much dating changed for men between 2007 and 2018. Tinder, etc.

Do you realize that a man's looks may worsen in that same time-period.

I am sure that you are NT enough to admit that a man who has sex in 2005, then gets his limbs blown off my a landmine in 2006, now qualifies as incel. And he is more incel than YOU. I'm sure you're levelheaded enough to recognize that fact. What you seem to miss is that being limbless is the only thing that women discriminate on.

Except NOT A SINGLE USER HERE IS LIMBLESS. Name me one fucking user here who got laid before and now doesn't because of losing their limbs.

Honestly I can't stand it when people who used to be GL come crying to me how they're so incel now, it just shows how much of a different plane of existence they are on.

I would have fucking KILLED to be attractive when I was young, but I wasn't. And I never will be either. They are not in my league, their age means jack-fucking-shit. If I got laid at 17-18 yr old then I too would have the energy to live to be 40 years old, because I'd at least know that getting sex isn't hard for me. It's their fault if they decide not to pursue womyn then and just "wait" and then come pissing to me later.

So yeah, your arguments is pointless because we don't have anyone where who has had their limbs blown off by landmines.
The only people we have here are dumbasses who wasted their youth willingly and are now pissy about it.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

There should be a term for those guys. Like reincel or recels (return to celibacy).

 

[GreenCel]

Because I'm not an autistic schoolshooter-to-be, I don't qualify as incel? For your info, I am incel because of my FACE, not because I am a friendless autist who can't make eyecontact with members of mankind. I guarantee you I have done more to get sex than you have. If you wanna go toe-to-toe on this, let me know. We can start with how much cosmetic surgery you've had...

Did you just call every member of this site apart from yourself a potential murderer? You need to grow up. Most of the people here are those who have accepted the reality pf their lives and laugh at themselves.
Btw answer to your question, I've had no cosmetic surgery. Too poor to afford one. Did you try it though? Since you appear to be more of a rich normie guy who is worried about his face.

 

[Total Imbecile]

Incels are virgins or have had extremely limited luck (still if youre not a virgin theres a 99% chance your a fakecel)

The following disqualifies you from being incel:
-having sex with more than one partner
-losing you virginity in your teens or earlier
-having sex with a jb

 

[FACEandLMS]

Did you just call every member of this site apart from yourself a potential murderer? You need to grow up. Most of the people here are those who have accepted the reality pf their lives and laugh at themselves.
Btw answer to your question, I've had no cosmetic surgery. Too poor to afford one. Did you try it though? Since you appear to be more of a rich normie guy who is worried about his face.

It was hyperbole, sorry. But the autistic, black-and-white-thinking part is true. There are guys here who think if you have friends, you can't be incel, if you've had sex once in 45 years, you're not incel. This is the very "us vs them" mentally among the younger members here, most of whom haven't really approached women before: "Why should I approach? If they don't approach me then I'm ugly. I don't go out socially but they should cold-approach me in Walmart while I'm picking up Cheetos" - That kind of mentality disregards sexual dimorphism.

Most guys here (esp youngcels) think that a 17 yo kissless virgin who never approached a girl before is more incel than a 45 yo man who got sex in the 90s before Tinder.

Have you ever arrange to meet up with a mentally ill girl out of frustration only for her to reject you?
Have you had blepharoplasty to get rid of eyebags and lower eyelid droopiness?
Are you working a 9-6pm job to pay out of pocket for lower jaw advancement and a genioplasty?

Trust me, I would not have done/be doing these things if I could just do a few appproaches and get a gf.

Except NOT A SINGLE USER HERE IS LIMBLESS. Name me one fucking user here who got laid before and now doesn't because of losing their limbs.

@Lechuga

 

[VLÖ]

@Lechuga

I don't remember him getting laid.