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Discussion What happened to the Zodiac?

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His last cipher has never been solved. Did he just die in a mundane way? suicide? His last 340 cipher is still unsolved.

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I have the highest respect for serial killers like Zodiac that are never caught. It's kind of unfortunate that as technology improves and we become a 1984 big brother surveillance society serial killers are becoming increasingly rare and almost always get caught. Mass shootings are all the rage these days but it's kinda like it takes so much less effort, like spawn camping in a FPS game.
 
I have the highest respect for serial killers like Zodiac that are never caught. It's kind of unfortunate that as technology improves and we become a 1984 big brother surveillance society serial killers are becoming increasingly rare and almost always get caught. Mass shootings are all the rage these days but it's kinda like it takes so much less effort, like spawn camping in a FPS game.
There are still serial killers at large today. I mean, not as popular as they once were, but they're out there.
 
Just draw random symbols theory.
 
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I have the highest respect for serial killers like Zodiac that are never caught. It's kind of unfortunate that as technology improves and we become a 1984 big brother surveillance society serial killers are becoming increasingly rare and almost always get caught. Mass shootings are all the rage these days but it's kinda like it takes so much less effort, like spawn camping in a FPS game.
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Did he just die in a mundane way?
Probably. Arthur Leigh Allen was the main suspect, but I think it was never fully proven that he was the Zodiac, maybe he wasn't.
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I have the highest respect for serial killers like Zodiac that are never caught. It's kind of unfortunate that as technology improves and we become a 1984 big brother surveillance society serial killers are becoming increasingly rare and almost always get caught. Mass shootings are all the rage these days but it's kinda like it takes so much less effort, like spawn camping in a FPS game.
Nobody can deny he was a genius, a criminal genius. Of course, serial killers still exist but they don't receive that much attention by the media as decades ago.
 
Arthur Leigh Allen was the main suspect, but I think it was never fully proven that he was the Zodiac, maybe he wasn't.
Have you seen the film?
 
Yeah I did. They imply that he might have been the real Zodiac.
Yeah, it's based off of the book by Robert Graysmith. Ever looked into the Long Island serial killer? It's a very interesting story.
 
Became a politician
 

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They already caught him. Its ted cruz
 
First time I've heard about him. Not long ago I read about the Cleveland Torso Murderer, another infamous serial killer who never got caught.
The freeway phantom is another VERY interesting serial killer that was never caught. I think the police even released the phone call he had one of the little girls he abducted make to her family.
 
They should release the message if it's been cracked. Fed fags as usual take credit for everything and provide nothing of value.
 
They should release the message if it's been cracked. Fed fags as usual take credit for everything and provide nothing of value.
Was released. He says that it wasn't him on the TV, but a fake caller. He says that he isn't afraid of dying, because the people that he killed await him as slaves in "paradice" (he liked to deliberately introduce different spellings of words and "paradice" was also used with the same spelling in previous letters). The last parts of the cypher are a mess: "I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH." Ultimately, the message contains nothing new, because in previous letters he already said exactly the same shit.

It's not to be taken literally, but rather intended for shocking the public by larping as completely insane, he is far too organized/lucid to suffer from a psychosis. It's trolling.
His last cipher has never been solved. Did he just die in a mundane way? suicide? His last 340 cipher is still unsolved.

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I think that he stopped due to an injury, death or incarceration. He loved the fame and therefore had no interest in stopping. Other serial killers however stop when they have financially/socially more stable conditions, but for someone like him it's unlikely because he only did it for fame. But generally speaking it's a myth that serial killers don't stop.
Probably. Arthur Leigh Allen was the main suspect, but I think it was never fully proven that he was the Zodiac, maybe he wasn't.
I think he was exonaterated because the DNA didn't match, but the guy was also infamous for making others lick his letters - so make of that what you want.
Nobody can deny he was a genius, a criminal genius. Of course, serial killers still exist but they don't receive that much attention by the media as decades ago.
Yes. SKs got so much attention because the liberals had an initiative to push them because they were in their eyes pathognomonic for a patriarchal culture and preyed on minorities, right-wingers had an initiative to push them because they saw them as symptoms of pornography and social degeneration. Mass shootings have the same political dimension nowadays due to gun rights and the different narratives.

Serial killers still exist. For example: An officer was arrested for strangling many Asian women he met on Dating Platforms in Cyprus and also that faggot from Canada - serial killings (especially in the medical field) happen, but they get no attention.
A case from my country a few years ago: There was the Darkroom Killer, he was a male nurse who wanted total control over the bodies of other males and money. Therefore he poisoned men with drug cocktails to immobilize them in order to rob/abuse them, especially in homosexual darkrooms where his face couldn't be seen these deeds happened. Most of the victims died due to that, because he deliberately used an overdose. In the media nothing could be seen.
The freeway phantom is another VERY interesting serial killer that was never caught. I think the police even released the phone call he had one of the little girls he abducted make to her family.
Yes, also an interesting case. The Monster of Florence also. He targeted couples and removed the genitals of the females (probably to cannibalize them). He also sent body parts to the police and he isn't caught yet.
 
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I have the highest respect for serial killers like Zodiac that are never caught. It's kind of unfortunate that as technology improves and we become a 1984 big brother surveillance society serial killers are becoming increasingly rare and almost always get caught. Mass shootings are all the rage these days but it's kinda like it takes so much less effort, like spawn camping in a FPS game.

its not hard to get away with murder in fact cold cases are much more common than they used to be.
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this is the full solution, they havent figured out the correct wording for it yet tho.

1607851939669


Interestingly in his next cipher, he mentions 'have you cracked the last cipher i sent you? My name is..."

1607851913560


seem to imply the previous needed to be solved in order to solve his name.

Jack Mulanax of the Vallejo Police Department subsequently wrote Allen had received an other than honorable discharge from the US Navy in 1958, and had been fired from his job as an elementary school teacher in March 1968 after allegations of sexual misconduct with students. He was generally well-regarded by those who knew him, but he was also described as fixated on young children and angry at women. He apparently never had a girlfriend or wife.

also the most likely suspect was incel so probably was this guy jfl
 
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its not hard to get away with murder in fact cold cases are much more common than they used to be. View attachment 383489
It's a lot harder to be a serial killer though. A serial killer has to dispose of bodies and make sure no evidence is left behind across multiple crime scenes, whereas a one-off murder with a gun or a drive by is probably pretty easy to get away with.
 
It's a lot harder to be a serial killer though. A serial killer has to dispose of bodies and make sure no evidence is left behind across multiple crime scenes, whereas a one-off murder with a gun or a drive by is probably pretty easy to get away with.

just do like what hannible lector did, wear a plastic body suit.

find a random target in a vulnerable area with no cameras, kill with a swift blunt hit to the head so theres no blood, bury in shallow grave. Repeat in different locations, the further away the better. Reason why there arent many serial killers is because its very difficult to maintain a double life for long periods of time
 
just do like what hannible lector did, wear a plastic body suit.

find a random target in a vulnerable area with no cameras, kill with a swift blunt hit to the head so theres no blood, bury in shallow grave. Repeat in different locations, the further away the better.

The DC snipers were onto something, they would strike from a distance and flee before anyone knew what happened.


And I thought the killer in No Country For Old Men had an interesting tactic using a silent cattle bolt instead of a gun.

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I think something along these lines might be a way a serial killer could get away with it these days.
 
Quality post @Lebensmüder

Quality thread in general. Interesting to read.
 
Quality post @Lebensmüder

Quality thread in general. Interesting to read.
Thanks, man.
The DC snipers were onto something, they would strike from a distance and flee before anyone knew what happened.


And I thought the killer in No Country For Old Men had an interesting tactic using a silent cattle bolt instead of a gun.

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I think something along these lines might be a way a serial killer could get away with it these days.
Serial killers easily get away with it when they are truckers. And also when they work in medical professions. We had a serial killer called Niels Högel with far over hundred victims in my country who worked as a nurse in a hospital and he was just put on trial a few months ago. He wanted to play a hero by bringing patients into danger and then rescuing them, but as we see with his body count he probably wasn't as competent as he thought he was.
just do like what hannible lector did, wear a plastic body suit.

find a random target in a vulnerable area with no cameras, kill with a swift blunt hit to the head so theres no blood, bury in shallow grave. Repeat in different locations, the further away the better. Reason why there arent many serial killers is because its very difficult to maintain a double life for long periods of time
Doesn't even have to be so complicated. Intelligent serial killers are generally the serial killers who are the easiest to catch. Less intelligent serial killers take the longest time to catch, because they are unpredictable and police cannot see the patterns, it takes years longer on average to catch them.
I will look into that case. It looks interesting.
Hope you enjoyed it.
its not hard to get away with murder in fact cold cases are much more common than they used to be. View attachment 383489
this is the full solution, they havent figured out the correct wording for it yet tho.

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Interestingly in his next cipher, he mentions 'have you cracked the last cipher i sent you? My name is..."

View attachment 383494

seem to imply the previous needed to be solved in order to solve his name.



also the most likely suspect was incel so probably was this guy jfl
High quality post and generally an extremely good thread so far.
 
serial killers are becoming increasingly rare and almost always get caught.
I like to imagine there a still a good few out there that haven't been caught and are still killing or started killing very recently.
honestly wouldn't be surprised if in like 30-40 years when I'm old as fuck I watch a dateline episode where they detail a cold case that was recently solved of some killercel that was doing his thing while I was here posting on this Ugandan deep sea fishing form.
 
I like to imagine there a still a good few out there that haven't been caught and are still killing or started killing very recently.
honestly wouldn't be surprised if in like 30-40 years when I'm old as fuck I watch a dateline episode where they detail a cold case that was recently solved of some killercel that was doing his thing while I was here posting on this Ugandan deep sea fishing form.
The Long Island serial killer is the only one in semi recent history with a fairly high score (like 17 or so). But even he has been staying low the past 10 years probably due to the heat and and all the news coverage and movies/tv shows.

Full list here:

 
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Intelligent serial killers are generally the serial killers who are the easiest to catch. Less intelligent serial killers take the longest time to catch, because they are unpredictable and police cannot see the patterns, it takes years longer on average to catch them.
Yes, it's true that sometimes it's harder to catch unpredictable, disorganized serial killers more than the cold-blooded, calculated, organized serial killers. There was one unidentified serial killer in my city (A small city btw) that murdered about ten street hookers between 1989 and 1996, same M.O. always, never got caught. There's very little info about the case out there, it's crazy to think that maybe it's out there having a regular job and a "regular" life. At first they suspected that it could be german truckdriver Volcker Eckert, but the M.O. was quite different from one killer to another so probably it wasn't him acting in a different way.
 
Yes, it's true that sometimes it's harder to catch unpredictable, disorganized serial killers more than the cold-blooded, calculated, organized serial killers. There was one unidentified serial killer in my city (A small city btw) that murdered about ten street hookers between 1989 and 1996, same M.O. always, never got caught. There's very little info about the case out there, it's crazy to think that maybe it's out there having a regular job and a "regular" life. At first they suspected that it could be german truckdriver Volcker Eckert, but the M.O. was quite different from one killer to another so probably it wasn't him acting in a different way.
The modus operandi is what allows the criminal to commit the crime, the signature is what truly makes up the handwriting of the perpetrator, because it's what fulfills the psychological/sexual desires of the perpetrator and reflects his inner wishes. The modus operandi can easily change because it's just means to an end while the signature remains constant most of the time. Sadly, MO/signature most of the time get used interchangeably by almost everyone and only after reading the books or getting it explained the situation becomes easier/clearer.

Eckert was a trichophiliac/hair-fetishist, a sadist who liked to see his victims struggling to survive and a necrophiliac who sexually abused the corpses. He also filmed himself while killing the victims. He took the hair of his victims as trophies and he also had sex dolls in his van where he had the opportunity to relive what he had done to the victims. He killed his first victim as a teenager. What they found in his truck was extremely sickening: He made two holes in the photo of one victim and then he placed a string in the holes, so that he could pull on the string to make it seem like he strangled her again on the photo to stimulate himself. So probably the victims in your city didn't have missing hair (e.g. he licked to remove the plaits as trophies) or weren't strangled - without the characteristic signature it's unlikely that he is responsible.

It's indeed always interesting how fast they can switch to a normal life again. And some of them are then caught by chance, an example: The Strangler Of Aachen, he strangled many girls in the 80/90s, then he had a completely normal life. Almost twenty years after his last known deed he gets caught for trying to steal metal, he agrees to giving his saliva away and as they put it into the data bank they realize that the ordinary theft was/is indeed a serial killer, he died two years ago after trying electrostimulation in prison (e.g. fapping while having voltage running through his body). Or the Claremont serial killer from Australia. That serial killers don't stop is a myth: Many of them stop (at least temorarily) when they enter fulfilling relationships or gain financial stability.

For example: A SK who killed seven people for revenge/sex/money/etc.; he comitted no murders while having a GF/son and a few days after his wife left him he killed a relative in a drunken rage, then took his money, celebrated until having no money again and then he went to a female friend of his, after seeing her in a bathrobe he becomes lustful and rapes her, afterwards he kills her and burns down her flat. Then he wanted to kill himself out of shame, but police got him beforehand. Prior to entering the relationship he had already killed five people (starting with his landlord). He calls himself an "animal" and begs to be never released. He routinely attacks other inmates for minor wrongdoings like playing with his gameboy.

When everything is good in their lifes these perpetrators are completely normal and hard-working people and when something goes wrong they completely lose it (except sadists who don't stop).
 
So probably the victims in your city didn't have missing hair (e.g. he licked to remove the plaits as trophies) or weren't strangled - without the characteristic signature it's unlikely that he is responsible.
As far as I know they were strangled, and then their naked bodies were dumped away from the city.
Many of them stop (at least temorarily) when they enter fulfilling relationships or gain financial stability.
Gary Ridgway would be a good example of this type of behavior. He got married and stopped killing, at least for several years.
 
Psycho killer quest q cet.
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They already caught him. Its ted cruz
Ted Cruz suspected of bad intentions and being accused jokingly or not of being the Zodiac Killer just because he looks ugly to others is a brutal lookspill tbh
 

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