What Framecel222 was trying to get across

[CopingGymcel]

the fact there are fakecels here proves how retarded girls standards are

Or maybe they're socially retarded? Seeing as uglier guys than them are getting laid.

 

[NeverSubmit]

It is if you're in a bad location and especially if you're ethnic.

 

[Deleted member 60]

blame it more on access to social media tbh, i cant rly deny the changing dynamics of society's sexual preferences

i still think women would still settle rather than being alone, maybe harems r coming back but im not betting on it til i see hollywood to start promoting it (women are the targgeted audience which means they like monogamy)

you're out of touch if you don't see it. Did you see the latest promo from netflix? 

A relationship that involves "settling" will not be fulfilling. See my initial post ITT. Lol, you act like we should look forward to being a betabux for Chad's leftovers. No thanks jeff. Would rather fuck whores tbh

 

[SeifEsteem]

blame it more on access to social media tbh, i cant rly deny the changing dynamics of society's sexual preferences
i still think women would still settle rather than being alone, maybe harems r coming back but im not betting on it til i see hollywood to start promoting it (women are the targgeted audience which means they like monogamy)

you're out of touch if you don't see it. Did you see the latest promo from netflix?
A relationship that involves "settling" will not be fulfilling. See my initial post ITT. Lol, you act like we should look forward to being a betabux for Chad's leftovers. No thanks jeff. Would rather fuck whores tbh

no i didnt, link me some major works that include polygamous relationships where they're happy and shit bc clearly being an incel means being in touch with reality and society in the first place lul

 

[ghostcell]

Or maybe they're socially retarded? Seeing as uglier guys than them are getting laid.

probably but nobody becomes socially retarded for no reason, external influences aggravate the abnormal behavior (myself as an example)

if i weren't bullied from ages 6-18 i wouldn't have been socially retarded, now my appearance got rated between 5/10, 6/10 after 5 years of gymcel, years of acne medication and eye surgery. yes, there are uglier guys than me in a relationship. but where does that leave me? there is literally no hope for me.

every conversation i start with girls gets ignored,ghosted, etc. no matter how i act. if u are not good looking, nobody will put up with your bullshit and pretend to be interested. i learned how disgusting people can be during every single year of my childhood and teens, my intense hatred towards people is apparent in every single honest human interaction i have. all i can do is be a fake, wear a mask and pretend to be normal, but that never works in the long run.

 

[CopingGymcel]

probably but nobody becomes socially retarded for no reason, external influences aggravate the abnormal behavior (myself as an example)

if i weren't bullied from ages 6-18 i wouldn't have been socially retarded, now my appearance got rated between 5/10, 6/10 after 5 years of gymcel, years of acne medication and eye surgery. yes, there are uglier guys than me in a relationship. but where does that leave me? there is literally no hope for me.

every conversation i start with girls gets ignored,ghosted, etc. no matter how i act. if u are not good looking, nobody will put up with your bullshit and pretend to be interested. i learned how disgusting people can be during every single year of my childhood and teens, my intense hatred towards people is apparent in every single honest human interaction i have. all i can do is be a fake, wear a mask and pretend to be normal, but that never works in the long run.

Then at least we agree that behavior and thinking pattern mattes. I don't blame you for being fucked up from getting fucked in the ass by life itself. Most of us are damaged in some ways.

 

[Kointo1]

Then at least we agree that behavior and thinking pattern mattes. I don't blame you for being fucked up from getting fucked in the ass by life itself. Most of us are damaged in some ways.

That is why most are socially inept in the first place. They've been mocked their entire lives.

 

[CopingGymcel]

That is why most are socially inept in the first place. They've been mocked their entire lives.

That I agree with. I don't see how anyone would or could deny that (outside of cucktears).

 

[Deleted member 60]

no i didnt, link me some major works that include polygamous relationships where they're happy and shit bc clearly being an incel means being in touch with reality and society in the first place lul

idk if they're happy, but it's become increasingly common. If you don't go out much there's tons of evidence on the internet alone. It's a major part of the culture war in America right now.

 

[ghostcell]

Then at least we agree that behavior and thinking pattern mattes. I don't blame you for being fucked up from getting fucked in the ass by life itself. Most of us are damaged in some ways.

of course, but i still see that a lot of guys ranging around 5 to 6 do not get much attention or positive responses from girls at all, i still think womens standards are partly to blame too. if i had a looksmatched or even lower girl who would actually have liked me at one point in my life, my confidence might not have been disastrously low. 

i think a lot of "personality" just comes from your experiences in life. today at gym i saw the elementary school chad (yes this was literally a thing) - he had 10 girlfriends by age 12 and cheated on all of them at the same time. Literally every single girl in elementary school wanted to be with him. I saw him at the gym, cocky, tattoo'd up, quite bulky, good hair, on his phone texting. If he went through what I went to due to sheer bad luck (glasses, acne etc) would he be as confident as he was now? He was more good looking as a child than he is now, now I would rate him 7 out of 10 as it is, he even had kind of a recessed chin. I think your personality gets formed by how you are treated by others for a large part.

I also think me being the smaller brother didn't help. I am always following in someone's footsteps and I never got to form my own opinions until after 18 years old.

but like i said, it also comes down to the fact women only want that one guy others lust after. so i never had a chance. and plenty of guys in my HS who were completely normal looking were incels all through HS, i dont know how they did in college but I dont see any relationships popping up on FB.

 

[CopingGymcel]

of course, but i still see that a lot of guys ranging around 5 to 6 do not get much attention or positive responses from girls at all, i still think womens standards are partly to blame too. if i had a looksmatched or even lower girl who would actually have liked me at one point in my life, my confidence might not have been disastrously low. 

i think a lot of "personality" just comes from your experiences in life. today at gym i saw the elementary school chad (yes this was literally a thing) - he had 10 girlfriends by age 12 and cheated on all of them at the same time. Literally every single girl in elementary school wanted to be with him. I saw him at the gym, cocky, tattoo'd up, quite bulky, good hair, on his phone texting. If he went through what I went to due to sheer bad luck (glasses, acne etc) would he be as confident as he was now? He was more handsome as a child, and I would rate him 7 out of 10 as it is, he even had kind of a recessed chin. I think your personality gets formed by how you are treated by others for a large part.

I also think me being the smaller brother didn't help. I am always following in someone's footsteps and I never got to form my own opinions until after 18 years old.

There definitely are a lot of guys who got bullied and get over it and still manages to function well (not hating on those who don't) and there are a lot of sub 5 men who aren't as broken as us.

 

[KyloRen]

I'm fairly NT.

Had a good group of friends.
Friends with a lot of girls. When I haven't met up with some of them they tell me how much they've missed talking to me.
Work at a job which has me talking with a lot of people.
A lot of people tell me that I'm very helpful and mature in my attitude.

Yet, I get constantly rejected. My only hope is netting a girl due to my money and status, since looks are absolute shit.

This same situation is further seen with a lot of my male friends. They have great personalities but aren't attractive and therefore are incel.

 

[CopingGymcel]

I'm fairly NT.

Had a good group of friends.
Friends with a lot of girls. When I haven't met up with some of them they tell me how much they've missed talking to me.
Work at a job which has me talking with a lot of people.
A lot of people tell me that I'm very helpful and mature in my attitude.

Yet, I get constantly rejected. My only hope is netting a girl due to my money and status, since looks are absolute shit.

This same situation is further seen with a lot of my male friends. They have great personalities but aren't as attractive.

What would you rate yourself?

 

[KyloRen]

What would you rate yourself?

3/10

 

[CopingGymcel]

3/10

Then you're @FaceandLMS tier, in which case you have to rely on luck after a lot of rejections to get a girlfriend (he has had one in the past).

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

I agree, this forum consists of mostly mentalcels, in other words, people that are at least in the 4/10 range. But, I don't think the real problem is that @Framecel222 is wrong, but rather, he's called out the vast majority of this website, and these mentalcels feel attacked. Wrongfully, I might add, considering he's saying the truth. But, I see how that is hypocritical coming from him, but then again, maybe it should be eye-opening. A mentalcels who comes to term with his own problems? That's a step up from the false cries of "It's over!" when it absolutely isn't. As for me, I belong to the other 10%, as I am a 2/10 on the looks scale. Genetically, I am just fine, it's just that I happened to be a case of natural selection, due to not being carefully and sustaining many injuries when I was a young boy. If I hadn't had those accidents, and I'd be posting here, I'd be a confirmed mentalcel. But alas, that's not what happened, and I'm here for legitimate reasons, unlike many of you. For you, it's not over. Work on your mindset if you're not a truecel. For the other truecels, just like myself, I salute you. I know how hard this life can be. But, it's important we don't resort to suicide. We should find other things to enjoy in life. For me, it's movies. A form of escapism comes a long way.

 

[KyloRen]

Then you're @FaceandLMS tier, in which case you have to rely on luck after a lot of rejections to get a girlfriend (he has had one in the past).

If you want an approximate face, I look like Jsanza.

 

[CopingGymcel]

I agree, this forum consists of mostly mentalcels, in other words, people that are at least in the 4/10 range. But, I don't think the real problem is that @Framecel222 is wrong, but rather, he's called out the vast majority of this website, and these mentalcels feel attacked. Wrongfully, I might add, considering he's saying the truth. But, I see how that is hypocritical coming from him, but then again, maybe it should be eye-opening. A mentalcels who comes to term with his own problems? That's a step up from the false cries of "It's over!" when it absolutely isn't. As for me, I belong to the other 10%, as I am a 2/10 on the looks scale. Genetically, I am just fine, it's just that I happened to be a case of natural selection, due to not being carefully and sustaining many injuries when I was a young boy. If I hadn't had those accidents, and I'd be posting here, I'd be a confirmed mentalcel. But alas, that's not what happened, and I'm here for legitimate reasons, unlike many of you. For you, it's not over. Work on your mindset if you're not a truecel. For the other truecels, just like myself, I salute you. I know how hard this life can be. But, it's important we don't resort to suicide. We should find other things to enjoy in life. For me, it's movies. A form of escapism comes a long way.

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If you want an approximate face, I look like Jsanza.

You're pretty fucked then. Sucks.

 

[NeverSubmit]

I'm fairly NT.

Had a good group of friends.
Friends with a lot of girls. When I haven't met up with some of them they tell me how much they've missed talking to me.
Work at a job which has me talking with a lot of people.
A lot of people tell me that I'm very helpful and mature in my attitude.

Yet, I get constantly rejected. My only hope is netting a girl due to my money and status, since looks are absolute shit.

This same situation is further seen with a lot of my male friends. They have great personalities but aren't attractive and therefore are incel.

How can you be friends with girls as an incel? I can't even stand the sight of them

 

[KyloRen]

You're pretty fucked then. Sucks.

I'm holding out for surgery.

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How can you be friends with girls as an incel? I can't even stand the sight of them

Because I like being social.

 

[Deleted member 60]

How do you know that they only have eyes for Chadlites? Are you an experienced night life enthusiast? Do you go out to a lot of bars and clubs and observe? Or do you just sit in your basement all day theorizing?

I've gone out enough to know that most guys don't get action at bars/clubs. Chads and Tyrones usually monopolize. Still, you probably have a better chance of scoring in those settings than normal circumstances.

 

[CopingGymcel]

I've gone out enough to know that most guys don't get action at bars/clubs. Chads and Tyrones usually monopolize. Still, you probably have a better chance of scoring in those settings than normal circumstances.

Let's take a 5/10 guy with amazing social skills and charisma. He is also an amazing dancer; he has moves like there was no tomorrow. I think that guy would do decent with women tbh. Obviously some would reject him for not being "hot enough", but there would definitely always be a few girls who would be willing to sleep with him (if it's not a sausage fest).

 

[VLÖ]

I agree, this forum consists of mostly mentalcels, in other words, people that are at least in the 4/10 range. But, I don't think the real problem is that @Framecel222 is wrong, but rather, he's called out the vast majority of this website, and these mentalcels feel attacked. Wrongfully, I might add, considering he's saying the truth. But, I see how that is hypocritical coming from him, but then again, maybe it should be eye-opening. A mentalcels who comes to term with his own problems? That's a step up from the false cries of "It's over!" when it absolutely isn't. As for me, I belong to the other 10%, as I am a 2/10 on the looks scale. Genetically, I am just fine, it's just that I happened to be a case of natural selection, due to not being carefully and sustaining many injuries when I was a young boy. If I hadn't had those accidents, and I'd be posting here, I'd be a confirmed mentalcel. But alas, that's not what happened, and I'm here for legitimate reasons, unlike many of you. For you, it's not over. Work on your mindset if you're not a truecel. For the other truecels, just like myself, I salute you. I know how hard this life can be. But, it's important we don't resort to suicide. We should find other things to enjoy in life. For me, it's movies. A form of escapism comes a long way.

So you basically ignored everything that was said about that no matter how hard you work on yourself, nothing will change? 
Like what the fuck does "work on your mindset" mean? What the fuck does any of this mean? I'd like to hear how you can "magically become NT", I really would.

And don't you fucking dare say "go to therapy brah".

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

So you basically ignored everything that was said about that no matter how hard you work on yourself, nothing will change?
Like what the fuck does "work on your mindset" mean? What the fuck does any of this mean? I'd like to hear how you can "magically become NT", I really would.
And don't you fucking dare say "go to therapy brah".

"Work on your mindset" is solid advice for mentalcels, not truecels. Did you read what I said? For truecels, it's over, but we should cope somehow. It's the only way we can live without killing ourselves.

 

[itsOVER]

Let's take a 5/10 guy with amazing social skills and charisma. He is also an amazing dancer; he has moves like there was no tomorrow. I think that guy would do decent with women tbh. Obviously some would reject him for not being "hot enough", but there would definitely always be a few girls who would be willing to sleep with him (if it's not a sausage fest).

Nah, in my experience vast majority of guys get fuck all at clubs. What happens is the average normie goes out every weekend, pulls one time in a year, then acts like he can do that every week.

 

[blackpill_incel]

After how long? Many 4/10 guys rot on the bench for a long time until a girl picks them up to play with. BRB sitting on my hands, good chance of being cucked by a girl I’m not really into, she discards me and I’m lighter in the wallet. Wait again for indeterminate amount of time then one day I’m too old and never had a real relationship.

Such is life for an incel

 

[Framecel222]

2. Most girls aren't very logical. They don't necessarily think "why would I be with this guy when I could have a Chadlite by opening this app", they live in the moment and make decisions based on what's currently happening (this is also why some of them end up cheating). If you're their best option at that exact moment and they are down to fuck (and don't find you repulsive), you will get laid. 

Beautifully said. Guys on here think that just because Chad is one swipe away that means you're competing with him. You're not. You're actually a real person, right there in front of her. Chad from Tinder is merely pixels on a screen. 

And the chances of a sub-Stacy woman getting Chad IRL are very slim. I know less than a handful of Chads IRL out of thousands of people. They're not waiting around every corner, ready to pounce and steal your 4/10 oneitis.

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

There are more 4/10's than 1/10's.

 

[Kointo1]

There are more 4/10's than 1/10's.

Of course there are. It's a greater percentile than 1/10s.