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Serious What did the driver in this video do wrongly?

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Cornered to sharply. Perhaps his tyres were worn/lacked traction with the road.

Why do you constantly post videos/discussions related to driving and poor driving in particular?
 
First thing I notice is that he's going too fast to begin with. If you're going that fast on a winding canyon road, you better be really confident in your driving skills. Paying close attention and feel to the traction of your tires

1. he entered the corner too fast

maybe has bald tires

should not be too heavy on the throttle while on a curve

looks like he's driving an SUV which has body roll
 
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Also, the footage makes his speed seem lower than it was, probably due to the low FOV. He was going 55-60mph (~90-100kmph) as he was exiting that corner.
 
Also, the footage makes his speed seem lower than it was, probably due to the low FOV. He was going 55-60mph (~90-100kmph) as he was exiting that corner.
Is he supposed to slow down?
 
What’s that mean? The gas pedal?
Yes, when you're on the gas while on a curve, you can spin the wheels leading to a spin out.

It's why most people spin out in solo vehicle crashes during the rain.

If you look at professional race car drivers spinning out, it's usually when they hit the throttle too hard when exiting a curve
 
What do you mean?
The corner was too "sharp" (i.e. it necessitated strong steering) relative to the speed he took it at. If he took the corner at a lower speed, he would have been fine.
 
The entry into that curve wasn't that sharp but as soon as he reached the bend, there was another sharp curve and he violently turned into it at too high rate of a speed instead of hitting the brakes.
 
What do you mean?


I see

Because I struggle with driving and have phobia over it which I’m trying to improve
If you're not speeding you have nothing to worry about as a new driver. If you're gonna drive slowly and safely do it on the right lanes to allow for faster traffic to past on the left (assuming you live in north america).
 
The corner was too "sharp" (i.e. it necessitated strong steering) relative to the speed he took it at. If he took the corner at a lower speed, he would have been fine.
What’s strong steering?
So he should’ve simply slowed down?
 
The entry into that curve wasn't that sharp but as soon as he reached the bend, there was another sharp curve and he violently turned into it at too high rate of a speed instead of hitting the brakes.
I see. So he exited a curve unaware that there was another curve beyond the one he exited?
 
What’s strong steering?
I'm just referring to the amount by which you turn the steering wheel (more = "stronger steering").

So he should’ve simply slowed down?
Unequivocally yes. Steering attempts to change the direction of travel using the friction between the road and tyres (there is a maximum possible amount of force that can be exerted onto the car by this friction). The amount of force required to change the direction of a car increases the faster the car is travelling. If this amount of force exceeds the maximum possible force that can be exerted onto the vehicle by friction, then the car will not be able to corner properly leading to what happened in the video.
 
Because by your questions I can tell that you should never drive any vehicle.
I drive often and have never faced anything crazy.

I just ask questions that might sound stupid since I always feel uncertain that whatever point I’m making is fully clear and understood.
 
What? Why? Can’t you just explain?
He's insinuating that the answers to the questions you asked are common/intuitive knowledge for most people and that knowing how speed affects taking corners is an essential part of safely driving.
 
Because I struggle with driving and have phobia over it which I’m trying to improve
You will typically not get into a situation like in the video so long as you obey the speed limit and cornering speed recommendations. The exception to this is wet/icy conditions, where you should drive slower around corners due to reduced friction between your tyres and the road.
 
He's insinuating that the answers to the questions you asked are common/intuitive knowledge for most people and that knowing how speed affects taking corners is an essential part of safely driving.
So he should’ve slowed down, right?
I’m just asking because these were in the comments
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Why are they saying he should’ve hit the gas and not the brakes? Or was the driver supposed to have applied the brakes before entering the curve to not have to apply the brakes while in the curve?
 
I'm just referring to the amount by which you turn the steering wheel (more = "stronger steering").


Unequivocally yes. Steering attempts to change the direction of travel using the friction between the road and tyres (there is a maximum possible amount of force that can be exerted onto the car by this friction). The amount of force required to change the direction of a car increases the faster the car is travelling. If this amount of force exceeds the maximum possible force that can be exerted onto the vehicle by friction, then the car will not be able to corner properly leading to what happened in the video.
These were in the comments. They’re saying he shouldn’t have applied the brakes.
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So he should’ve slowed down, right?
I’m just asking because these were in the commentsView attachment 1666466View attachment 1666467

Why are they saying he should’ve hit the gas and not the brakes? Or was the driver supposed to have applied the brakes before entering the curve to not have to apply the brakes while in the curve?
I think what they are talking about has to do with weight transfer (braking shifts weight to the front of the vehicle, which can contribute to oversteer), though I'm not sure. Whatever the case is, what they are discussing is far more advanced that what you should worry about for casual driving.
 
I think what they are talking about has to do with weight transfer (braking shifts weight to the front of the vehicle, which can contribute to oversteer), though I'm not sure. Whatever the case is, what they are discussing is far more advanced that what you should worry about for casual driving.
I see. I did notice that but wasn’t fully aware. This draws my attention due to the physics aspect of it.

Have you ever drove in a curved road on a mountain like this?
 
Have you ever drove in a curved road on a mountain like this?
I have driven around steep, rural, curvy roads in my Subaru Liberty (2.5i engine). I've never oversteered even when taking sharp corners because I have never travelled around sharp corners as fast as he does.
 
I have driven around steep, rural, curvy roads in my Subaru Liberty (2.5i engine). I've never oversteered even when taking sharp corners because I have never travelled around sharp corners as fast as he does.
I see.
 
These were in the comments. They’re saying he shouldn’t have applied the brakes. View attachment 1666468View attachment 1666469View attachment 1666470
Those were some idiotic comments.

The reason why this driver spun out was because he DIDN'T use the brakes. There's actually nothing wrong with entering a curve a little faster than usual as long as you either tap on the brakes, slam on the brakes, or let off the gas.

Novice race car drivers have this misconception that pro race car drivers don't use brakes which is completely false.

Pro race car drivers do use brakes and in fact, they slam on them very hard.

Because the key to successful racing is to get on the brakes as late and safely as possible or get on the gas as early as possible without going too hard on the throttle. Or else you can spin the wheels and then spin out the car.
 
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Those were some idiotic comments.

The reason why this driver spun out was because he DIDN'T use the brakes. There's actually nothing wrong with entering a curve a little faster than usual as long as you either tap on the brakes, slam on the brakes, or let off the gas.

Novice race car drivers have this misconception that pro race car drivers don't use brakes which is completely false.

Pro race car drivers do use brakes and in fact, they slam on them very hard.

Because the key to successful racing is to get on the brakes as late and safely as possible or get on the gas as early as possible without going too hard on the throttle. Or else you can spin the wheels and then spin out the car.
I see.

Have you ever drove in a curved road on a mountain like in the video?

Is this accident easy to avoid if one drives slowly or at speed limit? I want to drive to a large city that requires me to drive through these curved roads on the mountains
 
Is this accident easy to avoid if one drives slowly or at speed limit?
Yes. What you must keep in mind is that this driver was driving at highway speeds (90-100km/h) around a corner. Stick to the limit, slow down around corners and you'll be fine.
 
Arrived too fast
 
Yes. What you must keep in mind is that this driver was driving at highway speeds (90-100km/h) around a corner. Stick to the limit, slow down around corners and you'll be fine.
Ah ok
 
The front or back right tyre hit the dirt at speed. May have been an embedded stone or just dirt and the skid started.
 
Looks like the Angeles Crest Highway in Southern California. Always wanted to go there. I’ve driven the PCH and US-50 to Lake Tahoe and they were absolutely beautiful drives.

The driver was coming too hot on the corner and/or didn’t have good enough tires (not grippy enough for conditions or bad tread)
 

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