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Blackpill We would be incel regardless of what time period we lived in

Maybe i would forever be incel, but some people here, definely would not if they were born in different tomes
 
Ah, yes.. "muh traditional values" and "muh religion" type of incels. They don't seem to understand that historically virtually all culture were promoting socially enforced betabuxxing: aka women are homekeeprs and men are providers. Any incel here (unless absolutely hideous beyond repair) can apply for betabuxxing now. The only problem is that in the age of social media and online dating a woman can easily pick and chose her betabuxers, unlike in pre-internet times. Why choose a 4/10 betabux, when she can find a 5/10 betabux??
 
For truecels things would be the same, but for 4-5/10 men that don't really have any subhuman features and just aren't that tall or attractive, life would be better. Female standards at least had a realistic image of the average man in the past, but now 'average' is 6'4 with a broad frame, muscles, good face, good skin, good hair, hunter eyes, a solid career, many hobbies, lots of friends and an 8 inch penis.
 
For truecels things would be the same, but for 4-5/10 men that don't really have any subhuman features and just aren't that tall or attractive, life would be better. Female standards at least had a realistic image of the average man in the past, but now 'average' is 6'4 with a broad frame, muscles, good face, good skin, good hair, hunter eyes, a solid career, many hobbies, lots of friends and an 8 inch penis.
No, it's incels who only want stacys. :soy:
 
biggest cope i have ever seen in my life. back then EVERYBODY got married it was basically an obligation. see how many boomer subhumans managed to find a wife.
i can only see truecels maybe staying incel but tgats it
 
He was a poor boy from the rural area, he did not betabuxx anyone.
My grandparent's marriage is very traditional.
back then anyone could betabuxx since women had no money at all
I don't think you get what I'm saying

THE BASIS OF ALL AVERAGE MALE + FEMALE ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL "BETABUXX"

So if you refer to all these relationships as betabuxx and not reserve the term for "extreme cases", THEN THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE TERM

BECAUSE IF MOST ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE BETABUXX THEN NO RELATIONSHIP IS BETABUXX, ITS "JUST A RELATIONSHIP"


The average interaction between males and females since the beginning of time, is a man trading his resources and protection for access to a woman's sexual and reproductive resources

So if you call this "cucked", that defeats the purpose of the term "cucked", IT LITERALLY NO LONGER HAS MEANING BECAUSE MOST ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE CUCKED

Its make no sense to start describing the norm based on the circumstances of the exception (Chad and Stacey)

Saying that the average relationship is "cucked" or "betabuxxing" is like saying the average income is "below average", it doesn't make sense, the rich don't determine what average is, the average person determines what average is

What Chad can get doesn't determine the norm of relationships, what the average man can get does, so to call these things "cucked" or "betabuxx" is like using the criteria of the exception to judge the status of the norm

boyo if you're thinking of betabuxing i understand, i wouldnt judge anyone who suffers as much as we do for giving up, but, unfortunately, it is what it is: most relationships are betabux, and most men are miserable

income isnt the same thing because the average wage can get you food and a roof. if only the top 20% of wages could get you the minimum to not starve or be homeless, we would say the average income is low and it'd make perfect sense, just like we say most men's life isn't worth living

the average relationship is betabux because most men have nothing else to offer to a foid than the bux, only chads have a real relationship, and a life worth living in general
 
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back then anyone could betabuxx since women had no money at all
You realize that betabuxxing is when you provide for a female and she in return does not give you any attention.
It applies to wall hitters to end up settling down with an incel-tier male just because he can provide for her and they solemnly have sex, etc.
It is very common in the US and just look at divorce rates there.

>Betabux relationships are typically abusive in that the femoid reciprocates with minimal or no sexual affection, exploiting the agreeableness of the man, and keeping him just close enough for continued investment.

This is straight from the Incel wiki.
 
Perhaps the biggest cope of all time is the timepill. Nearly everyone on this site agrees that we are incel due to female hypergame in the modem world, but I've been thinking that this is just a Gigacope. Likely, we would be incel in the 200BC, 200AD, 1400, the 1700's, and so on. We are coping that the time period we are in is the cause of our inceldom, but the truth is that females in the past would still be going after chads, even without tinder.

I'm calling this the timepill. Tell me if I'm Einstein IQ or if I have the IQ of a ruler.

Low IQ. In the past nearly all men got partners.
 
You realize that betabuxxing is when you provide for a female and she in return does not give you any attention.
It applies to wall hitters to end up settling down with an incel-tier male just because he can provide for her and they solemnly have sex, etc.
It is very common in the US and just look at divorce rates there.

>Betabux relationships are typically abusive in that the femoid reciprocates with minimal or no sexual affection, exploiting the agreeableness of the man, and keeping him just close enough for continued investment.

This is straight from the Incel wiki.
the wall is a cope first off

in my book, a betabux is a male who isn't chad but gets a wife by providing, she isn't attracted to him so will naturally reciprocate with no affection or no real affection

did you know men used to think women were asexual? i wonder why :feelswhere:

maybe your grandpa has a chad jawline and had a real relationship, i was talking off what it is usually like
Low IQ. In the past nearly all men got partners.
yeah but they were betabuxes
 
in my book, a betabux is a male who isn't chad but gets a wife by providing, she isn't attracted to him so will naturally reciprocate with no affection or no real affection
Well I don't follow your book.

maybe your grandpa has a chad jawline and had a real relationship, i was talking off what it is usually like
There's a big difference between the rural 60s and our current age of internet connectivity.
How women grow up depends entirely on what they were fed when they were young.
 
Disagree.

Call this a cope if you will, I don't care, but objectively, there's nothing wrong with most incels; women's standards just have gotten ridiculously unrealistic (must be over 6', must have a chiseled jawline, must have abs, must make a certain salary). To put this in perspective, it's as if the majority of guys would only focus on girls that are 25 and under with porn star body measurements.

Yes, I am quite sure there were incels back in the old days, but for a guy to be incel in our grand/great-grandparents time, he had to have some physical deformity or serious mental issue.
 
Well I don't follow your book.


There's a big difference between the rural 60s and our current age of internet connectivity.
How women grow up depends entirely on what they were fed when they were young.
cope ngl
 
Definitely this. I believe that mental illness nowadays is most often induced by a mixture of a complex (human) mind interacting with a complex environment (modern society). If we lived a few centuries ago, most of us would seem far more NT, and we would likely be competing on the village or town level for a spouse rather than how it is today, with people competing on the nationwide level on apps. Also, divorce rates were far lower in the past, and the man firmly held power in the household over the wife and kids. I generally envy those born a few centuries ago. At least one had an actual family life, culture, and religion to look forward to back then. This cosmopolitan world is a complete dump.
Tbh modern society is garbage, sometimes i think i should unabombermaxx or at least become a farmer i want to live with nature and leave this shit society
 
Your iq is beyond this galaxy
 
Cope, my grandpa ascended in the 60s while being a manlet ( He's much shorter than me and I'm 5'6 myself ) and having a lot of acne ( I inherited that too ).
Note: He's from a rural area.
how you can keep sanity in Europe? Spain or Neiderjland?
 
how you can keep sanity in Europe? Spain or Neiderjland?
Netherlands, I've just gotten used to it at this point.
It's been like that my entire life, to be heightmogged.
 
Knowing my luck , probably yes
 
In the Middle Ages, the infant mortality rate was 45%. We would have died before we reached adulthood.
 
I always think it may have been easier in past eras, but doesn't mean it was easy. Today it's just impossible then at least you had a shot.
 
the average relationship is betabux because most men have nothing else to offer to a foid than the bux, only chads have a real relationship, and a life worth living in general
Uncucked men who escortcel have decent lives too. I can only understand cucks or deformed/disabled/insane/morbidly obese people who rope.
 
Uncucked men who escortcel have decent lives too. I can only understand cucks or deformed/disabled/insane/morbidly obese people who rope.
cope :feelsbadman:
 
Cope that you think healthy, in shape men who are non-chads think of roping all the time. That thought never even occured to me until I joined here.
 
Roping over a foid is the most cucked thing you can do in your life. Rather betabux a landwhale than give them the satisfaction.
 
Cope, my grandpa ascended in the 60s while being a manlet ( He's much shorter than me and I'm 5'6 myself ) and having a lot of acne ( I inherited that too ).
Note: He's from a rural area.
this. Massive cope by op. if I was a shitskin midget height I k now in 1000 AD curryland or native American USA would still be able to ascend easily as everyone around me is same height rather now where almost everyone height mogs me by half a foot. aAnd ofc the culture is favorable too
 
Cope that you think healthy, in shape men who are non-chads think of roping all the time. That thought never even occured to me until I joined here.
they should :feelsbadman:

i have been very close to roping before i joined here, the earliest was when i was 21
 
they should :feelsbadman:

i have been very close to roping before i joined here, the earliest was when i was 21
Non-chad men should never think about roping just for not being chads. It's better if they get blackpilled and stop being simps, so rosties won't have any more orbiters, or onlyfan cuck donators.
 
Non-chad men should never think about roping just for not being chads. It's better if they get blackpilled and stop being simps, so rosties won't have any more orbiters, or onlyfan cuck donators.
i appreciate your optimism boyo, but idk, the way i see it, my life isnt worth living at all unless things change. I'm no simp, orbiter, or :feelspuke: onlyfans donator, but I do really want a gf. And not only that, but I need to have the looks for it to be a healthy relationship in which I feel she's not doing me a favor and I can easily get another gf if she leaves me.
 
gonna have to disagree

but tbh I couldn't care less. I got other shit to worry about. "What if" can apply to a bunch of different things tbh
 
i appreciate your optimism boyo, but idk, the way i see it, my life isnt worth living at all unless things change. I'm no simp, orbiter, or :feelspuke: onlyfans donator, but I do really want a gf. And not only that, but I need to have the looks for it to be a healthy relationship in which I feel she's not doing me a favor and I can easily get another gf if she leaves me.
I've always wanted that too, it might happen if men get uncucked and stop being simps, and sexbots take over. Just wait it out and save for escortceling in the mean time. Sex from a foid is more important than love. I rather have a foid who gives me unlimited sex, than one that only gives me love but no sex. Roping shouldn't be encouraged for other blackpilled incels, unless they're cucks, we need them to have like minded friends, and to help take foid's rights away.
 
Sex has been the focus of every society in human history. It is a story as old as the hills. Ugly men are outcast by society and reap resentment and hatred everywhere. The total exclusion and contempt applies only to a part of the ugly men though.
 
I wont be cucked when waifu bots are out
 
High t aggressive ogrecels can ascend if it was like years back pre civilization
 
There was a time in the past when there was no feminism and there were very limited rights for women. Not during the hunter gatherer period, it seems men and women were relatively equal then; I am talking about time after the industrial revolution but before feminism gained any traction. Do you think then we would have had a chance? Because if you don't think we could have ascended then feminism is not the issue (I personally think we could have ascended).
 
Cope, that's just a very short period of human history, 7000 years ago, 17 women reproduced for every 1 man.
Nice cherrypicking. This was just a short event. Some tribe going ER or sth. Iirc overal it was much closer to 4:1 or was it 4:3? Don't remember tbh.
 
Time will affect you unless you're an actual truecel.
 
Most of the time since humans advanced from hunter gatherer to agriculture, inceldom was very low. Youd need to be a deformed truecel to not get a partner. Basically every generation since then men have had virgin looksmatch partners until like people born in the late 80s/early 90s of the last century and onwards.
 
nah u could rapemaxx with basically no consequences in middle ages if u were a knight :feelshmm:
 
Nice cherrypicking. This was just a short event. Some tribe going ER or sth. Iirc overal it was much closer to 4:1 or was it 4:3? Don't remember tbh.
sources? Tribes don't just "go ER".
 
Totally agree with this. I'm always telling people on this site that shit wasn't any better in the 80's and 90's before tinder and online dating. I was a teen in the 90's and women hated me then. I've always had the feeling that it doesn't matter what era you placed me in I'd struggle getting women.

Agreed but it was better back in the monogamous patriarchal days, due to slut shaming (of both genders) and traditions kept in place to stifle female hypergamy. This is all part of in keeping the social contract which leads to developing a strong nation or empire. Once those checks and balances are removed, it all falls to pieces.

This is why shit like "only 40% of men reproduced throughout history" is myopic IMO, because it is assuming a static flow of events throughout history, yet history has been cyclical, to get a more accurate representation we'd have to ask how many men got to reproduce at places and times where monogamy was practiced as the norm?

But as for the 90's and 80's I agree, it wasn't that much better for me back then. I'll make a post called 3 waves of inceldom which will explain this better. First wave of massive inceldom likely came in the 60's with the sexual revolution. I'll make a post about it.
 
Completely false, wtf do you mean historically women would still be going after Chad? Historically most women barely even got a choice in who their partners were, their fathers would choose for them. Almost all men got partners, you just had to show you could provide for a wife and family
 
he still have acne at an old age ?
He's currently in his 80s and you don't even notice it since his skin has already deteriorated.
 

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