E
Edmund_Kemper
Disregard my larping efforts. I can’t change it.
-
- Joined
- Sep 26, 2019
- Posts
- 25,309
All the feminists on the planet say that slut shaming causes rape and that it is part of rape culture. Well, guess what? Virgin shaming is a MUCH MUCH bigger cause of rape than slut shaming.
Admittedly, its extremely rare for rapists to be virgins or sexually inexperienced. In fact, studies have consistently shown that rapists are often far more sexually successful than most men. Rapists do often have consensual sex, far more often than they rape. They tend to have consensual sex far more often than most men and have way more sex partners and more dating partners than most men. They also lose their virginity early and have a first date at an early age. Rapists who never had consensual sex/relationships are in fact extremely rare. They don't even really exist. Aside from having far more girlfriends, far more sex partners, and being promiscuous chick magnet chads, rapists tend to be involved in subcultures that have a lot of chads, such as athletics and fraternities. College athletes and college men who played aggressive sports in HS are more likely to rape and frat boys also are much more likely to rape. (Sorority girls are more likely to be rape victims than non-sorority college girls).
What causes rapists to commit rape? Pressure to have lots of sex. That's a common motive among rapists. The idea it's about power is mostly a myth. Perceived pressure to have sex is a big cause of men committing rape and it's a common motive among rapists. David Lisak, an expert on rapists, wrote:
"'Undetected rapists' have consistently been shown to more sexually active than other men. Apart from their sexually aggressive behavior, they engage in consensual and coercive sex far more often than is typical for men of their age group. Their sexual activity tends to be an important component of their identities. Thus, rather than being a product of a greater sex drive, their increased sexual activity appears to be driven by their view that if they are not very active then they are neither 'successful' nor adequate as men."
He also writes: "A consistent finding in the recent research on 'undetected' sexually violent men is that most of this violence emerges either directly or indirectly from what have been termed 'sexually violent subcultures.' Examples of such subcultures include fraternities and delinquent gangs. These subcultures are powerful forces that both reflect the rapist's views about women and sexual conquest, and also help to shape them. For example, at certain college fraternities, the use of violent pornography is a frequent form of 'entertainment,' providing explicit images of rape as being acceptable, noncriminal, and the sign of male virility. Within these subcultures, 'sexual conquests' - having sex with as many women as possible - becomes a critical measure of how men view themselves and each other. The greater number of such conquests, the more manly he is viewed. The use of coercion and violence to secure these conquests is normalized in the subculture and becomes simply another part of the man's 'sexual arsenal.'"
Obviously you can see here that although virgin shaming doesn't directly cause rape (they aren't encouraging virgins in particular to rape), it indirectly does. Virgin shaming leads to men thinking they need to have as much sex as possible and as many sex partners as possible, which leads to rape. Virgin shaming is the first stage and rape is the third. The third stage won't exist without the first because the first causes second and the second stage causes the third stage. So yes, virgin shaming causes rape.
Admittedly, its extremely rare for rapists to be virgins or sexually inexperienced. In fact, studies have consistently shown that rapists are often far more sexually successful than most men. Rapists do often have consensual sex, far more often than they rape. They tend to have consensual sex far more often than most men and have way more sex partners and more dating partners than most men. They also lose their virginity early and have a first date at an early age. Rapists who never had consensual sex/relationships are in fact extremely rare. They don't even really exist. Aside from having far more girlfriends, far more sex partners, and being promiscuous chick magnet chads, rapists tend to be involved in subcultures that have a lot of chads, such as athletics and fraternities. College athletes and college men who played aggressive sports in HS are more likely to rape and frat boys also are much more likely to rape. (Sorority girls are more likely to be rape victims than non-sorority college girls).
What causes rapists to commit rape? Pressure to have lots of sex. That's a common motive among rapists. The idea it's about power is mostly a myth. Perceived pressure to have sex is a big cause of men committing rape and it's a common motive among rapists. David Lisak, an expert on rapists, wrote:
"'Undetected rapists' have consistently been shown to more sexually active than other men. Apart from their sexually aggressive behavior, they engage in consensual and coercive sex far more often than is typical for men of their age group. Their sexual activity tends to be an important component of their identities. Thus, rather than being a product of a greater sex drive, their increased sexual activity appears to be driven by their view that if they are not very active then they are neither 'successful' nor adequate as men."
He also writes: "A consistent finding in the recent research on 'undetected' sexually violent men is that most of this violence emerges either directly or indirectly from what have been termed 'sexually violent subcultures.' Examples of such subcultures include fraternities and delinquent gangs. These subcultures are powerful forces that both reflect the rapist's views about women and sexual conquest, and also help to shape them. For example, at certain college fraternities, the use of violent pornography is a frequent form of 'entertainment,' providing explicit images of rape as being acceptable, noncriminal, and the sign of male virility. Within these subcultures, 'sexual conquests' - having sex with as many women as possible - becomes a critical measure of how men view themselves and each other. The greater number of such conquests, the more manly he is viewed. The use of coercion and violence to secure these conquests is normalized in the subculture and becomes simply another part of the man's 'sexual arsenal.'"
Obviously you can see here that although virgin shaming doesn't directly cause rape (they aren't encouraging virgins in particular to rape), it indirectly does. Virgin shaming leads to men thinking they need to have as much sex as possible and as many sex partners as possible, which leads to rape. Virgin shaming is the first stage and rape is the third. The third stage won't exist without the first because the first causes second and the second stage causes the third stage. So yes, virgin shaming causes rape.
- Lisak, David (March 2002). "The Undetected Rapist" (PDF). [FullText]
Last edited: