Blackpill Very few people are happy. Most foids and Chads are not happy.

[micropenis29]

The perfect life for a woman would be getting pregnant of many kids by a 10/10 Chad but having a barely doable looks-wise reliable betabuxx to take care of her and the kids.

This is like saying the perfect life for a man would be to have a harem of 10 or so foids that fulfilled all of his different fantasies. It would be a temporarily extremely pleasurable life, but think about how it would play out. Eventually, he'd get bored with the 10 foids. He'd want more variety. And then after 20 foids, he'd want more. And still more. Until, practically speaking, the only thing that could really fulfill him was completely infeasible from a real-world standpoint (hundreds of foids of various ages, races, situations, etc.). And then still eventually, he'd want more.

With women it's the same way; in the scenario you describe, the woman will continuously want a better betabuxx with more money, more status, better looks, etc.

These Darwinistic forms of happiness are ultimately unfulfilling if they're relied on too heavily, because of the hedonistic treadmill effect; our evolutionary hardware will never be satisfied no matter how much better-- from a biological standpoint--the situation becomes. It's how our brains evolved. Strangely, the extent to which we're aware of this actually allows us to intervene though. We're conscious.

I'd guess single moms on welfare are still probably happier than us or than women that are in the workforce, since they're MOSTLY living on accordance to their biological purposes. But relying on government must be anxiety-inducing, since, deep down, you know this is not really a stable arrangement. It's like being a NEET being also anxiety-inducing.

I agree. They're "happy" until they're not, which is every time the government doesn't get bigger and more socialist. Right now in the U.S., for instance, women have extreme anxiety because of Trump and his ongoing threat to shrink the government. And so womens' "happiness" is really just a temporary high.

If men had government-funded harems, it would be roughly analogous.

What does happiness mean to you? I, sadly, stopped believing in a superior, spiritual, self-generated, "enlightenment"-typed happiness. I think this world here is a hell and the best you can do here is complying to your biological imperatives the most you can.

LMAO @ the world being hell. I have enjoyed too much of my life and still look forward to too much to consider it hell. Even as an incel. (And no, I don't expect to ascend any time soon, if at all).

I believe in self-generated and "enlightenment" type happiness. But I also believe it's foolish to deny one's biological imperatives; this is unfortunately all too common and it is deeply unhealthy both on an individual and societal level.

This is why I discourage people from doing NoFap and I encourage things like rampant porn use, heavy sugar consumption, lots of video games, movies, music, other pleasures, etc. I believe these to be relatively healthy ways to efficiently fulfill our biological needs while freeing up space for the deeper, more creative thinking that is necessary to further evolve as a species both technologically and philosophically.

Tribal monkey status-maxing social games are waste of peoples' time and generally make people bitter, frustrated, less intelligent, and far less healthy as far as I can tell.

For example, for me, maximum happiness would be having sexual and romantic access to several young, fertile foids of my preference in terms of race, looks, etc, as well as being a leader of men and having purpose on this sense. Kill your enemies and fuck their daughters, that's the closest you can get to happiness really IMO.

I agree that this would make any straight man extremely happy temporarily. As I said above though, it requires an ever-increasing influx of foids and other tribes to conquer as well as a lot of luck; what happens for instance when your enemies defeat you? It's not very happy then.

Having said that, I think virtual realities in the future will allow for men to play out such fantasies. There will likely be a lot of fun to be had.

 

[happiless]

C O P E

 

[Mainländer]

This is like saying the perfect life for a man would be to have a harem of 10 or so foids that fulfilled all of his different fantasies. It would be a temporarily extremely pleasurable life, but think about how it would play out. Eventually, he'd get bored with the 10 foids. He'd want more variety. And then after 20 foids, he'd want more. And still more. Until, practically speaking, the only thing that could really fulfill him was completely infeasible from a real-world standpoint (hundreds of foids of various ages, races, situations, etc.). And then still eventually, he'd want more.

With women it's the same way; in the scenario you describe, the woman will continuously want a better betabuxx with more money, more status, better looks, etc.

These Darwinistic forms of happiness are ultimately unfulfilling if they're relied on too heavily, because of the hedonistic treadmill effect; our evolutionary hardware will never be satisfied no matter how much better-- from a biological standpoint--the situation becomes. It's how our brains evolved. Strangely, the extent to which we're aware of this actually allows us to intervene though. We're conscious.



I agree. They're "happy" until they're not, which is every time the government doesn't get bigger and more socialist. Right now in the U.S., for instance, women have extreme anxiety because of Trump and his ongoing threat to shrink the government. And so womens' "happiness" is really built on a shoddy foundation.

If men had government-funded harems, it would be roughly analogous.



LMAO @ the world being hell. I have enjoyed too much of my life and still look forward to too much to consider it hell. Even as an incel. (And no, I don't expect to ascend any time soon, if at all).

I believe in self-generated and "enlightenment" type happiness. But I also believe it's foolish to deny one's biological imperatives. This is deeply unhealthy both on an individual and societal level.

This is why I discourage people from doing NoFap and I encourage things like rampant porn use, heavy sugar consumption, etc. I believe these to be relatively healthy ways to efficiently fulfill our biological needs while freeing up space for the deeper, more creative thinking that is necessary to further evolve as a species both technologically and philosophically. Tribal monkey status-maxing social games are waste of peoples' time and generally make people bitter, frustrated, less intelligent, and far less healthy as far as I can tell.



I agree that this would make any straight man extremely happy temporarily. As I said above though, it requires an ever-increasing influx of foids and other tribes to conquer as well as a lot of luck; what happens for instance when your enemies defeat you? It's not very happy then.

Having said that, I think virtual realities in the future will allow for men to play out such fantasies. There will likely be a lot of fun to be had.

Well, yeah, you're 100% right about Darwinian types of happiness being temporary, but I'd argue it's still the best one can get. Permanent or unconditional happiness are not possible on this plane.

Also, yeah, I also had a considerable amount of fun and positive shit on my life, like most people, but life still have more bad then good. See Schopenhauer's argument about the pleasure of an animal devouring another compared to the suffering of the animal being devoured.

Also, I'd argue that pleasure is just nature's way to keep you treading through this shit. If life were 100% nightmarish torture everyone would simply kill themselves. and the system would end.

This life is BASED on fucked up shit like death, torture, competition, etc, as well as being intrinsically limited temporarily. Even shielded in technological advanced societies we still experience more negative shit than positive.

 

[ManletHalfCurry]

Yes, chad and stacy are insecure so need constant validation from Instagram each other etc, so are they completely happy and fulfilled? No, but compared to us, their lives are hundreds of times better.

 

[happiless]

Getting teen sex, love, HS and college parties, constant validation from your peers, fucking foids abroad, traveling with your gf and fucking her in different countries, settling down and having kids with a good looking foid who treats your well because you're Chad, having a good career because of your looks, having children who love you because the children are attractive too (with a possible genetic recombination exception), retiring and seeing the majority of your children do well too because they're attractive and growing old with your foid who's still with you because you're Chad.

Chads aren't happy by the way.

 

[StaroRavager]

Life is suffering, the only question is to what degree will you suffer relative to others

 

[micropenis29]

Well, yeah, you're 100% right about Darwinian types of happiness being temporary, but I'd argue it's still the best one can get. Permanent or unconditional happiness are not possible on this plane.

Are you 100% sure? This is not the type of thing you want to be wrong about.

Also, yeah, I also had a considerable amount of fun and positive shit on my life, like most people, but life still have more bad then good. See Schopenhauer's argument about the pleasure of an animal devouring another compared to the suffering of the animal being devoured.

I'll look into that.

This life is BASED on fucked up shit like death, torture, competition, etc, as well as being intrinsically limited temporarily. Even shielded in technological advanced societies we still experience more negative shit than positive.

Death is relief usually. The problem as I see it is not death; it's the fact that we prevent people from dying on their own terms. Suicide should be legal and perfectly acceptable of course.

Torture is something most people don't experience, so I don't consider that to be too fucked up in the grand scheme of things.

Competition is not really a problem for people that are aware of it. It's often pleasurable (those playing competitive sports or video games in their leisure time, for example). It's only a problem when people base their self-worth on it. I admit this is quite common, but it's why I warn against unknowingly participating in monkeyish tribal status games.

 

[Mainländer]

Are you 100% sure? This is not the type of thing you want to be wrong about.

It's hard to say I'm 100% sure, but I'm very strongly inclined to believe so due to my empirical evidence after 30 years on this Earth.

I'll look into that.

@Red Shambhala always posts about it, see his threads.

Death is relief usually. The problem as I see it is not death; it's the fact that we prevent people from dying on their own terms. Suicide should be legal and perfectly acceptable of course.

I agree tbh, death is very anxiety- and fear-inducing but at the same time the proof nature isn't 100% cruel, because everything we experience here, no matter how torturous, will have an end.

Torture is something most people don't experience, so I don't consider that to be too fucked up in the grand scheme of things.

Well, depends on how you define torture. Is going through a painful disease torture? Through hunger? I'd say most people do go through some things that can be considered at least somewhat torturous through their lives. And even if most didn't it's still very disturbing that it's a possibility at all times. We're always vulnerable to the most fucked up shit imaginable, think about it. It's basically a hunger games here.

Competition is not really a problem for people that are aware of it. It's often pleasurable (those playing competitive sports or video games in their leisure time, for example). It's only a problem when people base their self-worth on it. I admit this is quite common, but it's why I warn against unknowingly participating in monkeyish tribal status games.

I'd say it's very unjust and painful. My case for example, what I wanted the most is a relationship with a cute teenage white foid. But I can't have it because of my looks and age. If everything about me remained the same other than my ugly looks and old age, I'd be perfectly able to experience my most fervent desire without any problems. But I'm not due to those factors that are not in my control.

And that's just a personal example, there are tons of others. Life's injustice levels is absurd.

 

[micropenis29]

Getting teen sex, love, HS and college parties

Teen sex would've been nice. Love is not a thing. HS and college parties are only fun because of teen sex, so I consider that just a reiteration of teen sex.

, constant validation from your peers

Real life status games and social validation are zero-sum. They are ruthless competition. That doesn't sound fun to me, which is why I stopped participating many years ago. I'm extremely happy I did.

, fucking foids abroad, traveling with your gf and fucking her in different countries

Fucking foids abroad would be nice, but most foids are trashy sluts nowadays. Chads have killed the goose that lays the golden eggs. This was predictable, as they're too low-IQ to realize what they were doing.

"Traveling with your girlfriend and fucking her in different countries" doesn't sound like something Chad would do. It sounds more like something a Chadlite would do, and when he wasn't with his girlfriend, she'd be fucking Chads behind his back.

, settling down and having kids with a good looking foid who treats your well because you're Chad

Chad never settles down. You're thinking of Chadlite. And again, this is overrated since his wife is cheating on him with Chad and constantly threatening to divorce him while also withholding sex from should he slack at being a full-time cuck.

, having a good career because of your looks

Good careers are waaaay overrated. Normies only want good careers because they mistakenly think it will help them get laid. Chad gets good careers but it's redundant since he doesn't need the money or the status; he gets laid even if he's broke and living in an alley.

, having children who love you because the children are attractive too (with a possible genetic recombination exception),

Chads are too low-IQ to appreciate love, even from their own children. This is why they don't stick around to even raise their own children most of the time.

Chads are like monkeys; all they care about his finding the nearest female monkey to stick their cocks in.

retiring and seeing the majority of your children do well too because they're attractive and growing old with your foid who's still with you because you're Chad.

Chad doesn't stick around to raise a family nor does he stay with any foid for very long. You're again mistaking Chad for Chadlite.

Chadlite's children grow old with him but resent him for not being Chad, and his wife (who has been cheating on him for multiple decades at this point) also resents him for not being Chad and for not making more money and having higher status.

Chads aren't happy by the way.

I'm not convinced they are.

 

[happiless]

Teen sex would've been nice. Love is not a thing. HS and college parties are only fun because of teen sex, so I consider that just a reiteration of teen sex.



Real life status games and social validation are zero-sum. They are ruthless competition. That doesn't sound fun to me, which is why I stopped participating many years ago. I'm extremely happy I did.



Fucking foids abroad would be nice, but most foids are trashy sluts nowadays. Chads have killed the goose that lays the golden eggs. This was predictable, as they're too low-IQ to realize what they were doing.

Traveling with your girlfriend and fucking her in different countries doesn't sound like something Chad would do. It sounds more like something a Chadlite would do, and when he wasn't with his girlfriend, she'd be fucking Chads behind his back.



Chad never settles down. You're thinking of Chadlite. And again, this is overrated since his wife is cheating on him with Chad and constantly threatening to divorce him while also withholding sex from should he slack at being a full-time cuck.



Good careers are waaaay overrated. Normies only want good careers because they mistakenly think it will help them get laid. Chads get good careers but it's redundant since he doesn't need the money or the status; he gets laid even if he's broke and living in an alley.



Chads are too low-IQ to appreciate love, even from their own children. Chads are like monkeys; all they care about his finding the nearest female monkey to stick their cock in.



Chad doesn't stick around to raise a family nor does he stay with any foid for very long. You're again mistaking Chad for Chadlite. Chadlite's children grow old with him but resent him for not being Chad, and his wife (who has been cheating on him for multiple decades at this point) also resents him for not being Chad and for not making more money and having higher status.



I'm not convinced they are.

Chads are just the top 20 or so % of males lookswise. Saying that all of those men never settle down and are low IQ seems a bit inaccurate don't ya think? I'm not sure what your definition of happiness is but I'm pretty sure constant sex, validation, fulfillment (even if it's subjective) and not being poor = happiness, usually

 

[Looksredpilled]

Studies show that females subjective well being have fallen to the shitter starting from the 60s.

Males has also fallen, but not as drastic.


Yes, the majority are vastly unhappy, in comparison to the "Old days".

 

[micropenis29]

Chads are just the top 20 or so % of males lookswise. Saying that all of those men never settle down and are low IQ seems a bit inaccurate don't ya think?

No.

I'm not sure what your definition of happiness is but I'm pretty sure constant sex, validation, fulfillment (even if it's subjective) and not being poor = happiness, usually

The only constant for Chad is sex. The validation takes a lot of work as he's competing with other Chads and GigaChads in a zero-sum social validation game.

Fulfillment isn't really possible for Chad; he's too low-IQ to recognize that he's competing in the aforementioned zero-sum social games and so always feels like he's "losing" and thus is unfulfilled.

"Not being poor" doesn't matter to Chad since (A) he doesn't realize it but he would get just as much pussy even if he was broke and (B) he's too dumb to spend his money on anything not related directly to monkey status games. I.e. Chad will spend $500 million on wine that is indistinguishable taste-wise from Walmart wine if it increases his status.

 

[PectusManletScarCel]

Lifefuel

 

[ropecel_is_cope]

Cope, the moment chad's eyes open in the morning, he already knows he's gonna have sex with a random prime foid he will meet later on the street. How coukd you possibly be depressed with a life like that? Even if he were depressed, a random foid would say: 'Oh don't be sad, chad . You know wht, I will let you put a baby in me so you can feel my tight, young pussy around you. I'll even let my female friens know, they think youre hawwt. Also, I bet the female teacher that has been eyeing you wouldn’t mind a bareback adventure ' chads can't be sad by default.

 

[Six]

Low IQ thread

 

[jerrycan dan]

This is true, the reason normalfags love movies like fight club so much is because they recognise their lives are shit, fake, plastic and based on consuming, at least to some extent, and upon realising they aren't happy about that. They post on instagram like bored people because most of their lives are pointless grinding that nobody, not even themselves, will be openly genuine about. They get sex and better treatment from others but their lives are not paradise.

Good post man, thank you for the read

 

[Deleted member 1313]

Mega cope. Chad may not be always happy, but I can verify their moments of happiness and levels of happiness dwarf an incel and his desperation to feel alive even for an instant.

 

[ThickBoi]

You can never be happy. Happiness is achieved when you do something new and exciting or when you experience something hard. A middle class person in Europe might not feel very happy, but if the person lived in a third world country for a month he will be filled with excitement when he goes back home. Chads and Stacie’s aren’t so happy because they don’t know what it’s like to be in our shoes. Once they have a look in our perspective they will be dying to go back into their own selves.