Blackpill Very few people are happy. Most foids and Chads are not happy.

[micropenis29]

The 19th Amendment and subsequent feminist movement hasn't just destroyed the lives of men. It has destroyed the lives of women too.

Still, a lie that is spread by cucks, bluepillers, and even confused incels is that Chads and Stacies are living spectacularly happy lives.

Foids are indeed getting pleasure out of riding Chad's cock on a daily, or even hourly, basis. But addicts of all kinds get pleasure on a daily basis. Does that make them happy? Of course not. But I will go a step further and say that most foids and Chads I have come across seem miserable.

Incels often point to facebook and instagram photos as evidence of others' happiness. The problem with this theory is that happy and fulfilled people do not waste their time posting on facebook and instagram. Such people do not feel any desire to portray to other people that they are happy and fulfilled, for they are too busy directly experiencing that happiness and fulfillment.

Think about it. If your life was actually awesome, why would you even bother with social media at all? It would just be displacing time that could otherwise be spent experiencing the awesomeness.

Paradoxically, we will know that people are actually happier when they are no longer trying to appear happy.

 

[Angry_runt]

Happiness is relative to a large degree. Whatever your life is like becomes the baseline, and happiness can only be found by making your life better than it already is, otherwise you get contentment which is not quite the same thing.

 

[kekboi]

I was thinking about this too. I just don't know what to conclude for myself. Don't get sad when people post pictures of their holiday in spain? Accept that life sucks sometimes? I guess so

 

[ReallyRice]

Cope, not everything is relative and there is an absolute threshhold that you CAN cross in order to be happy. That thresshold is generally crossed by being either Chad or a foid, which implies getting sex, validation, friends, fun etc etc.

 

[micropenis29]

I was thinking about this too. I just don't know what to conclude for myself. Don't get sad when people post pictures of their holiday in spain? Accept that life sucks sometimes? I guess so

It strikes me as self-evident that if one is truly having the time of his life on holiday in Spain, the last thing that occurs to him is, "Hey, I think I'll take some pictures of myself and post them on the internet!"

Posting pictures on social media is basically admitting to the world that one's life is not fulfilling. It's a borderline cry for help.

People don't interpret it this way since they themselves are too insecure to see through this monkeyish behavior.

Cope, not everything is relative and there is an absolute threshhold that you CAN cross in order to be happy. That thresshold is generally crossed by being either Chad or a foid, which implies getting sex, validation, friends, fun etc etc.

"Cope" is the easy, mindless, and predictable response to this thread, but I think I have made a logical and concise argument that the Chads and Stacies posting their pictures on social media are in fact the ones who are coping.

 

[Asianmanletcel]

Chads and foids, normies not being "happy" should experience what does an incel goes through everyday, it makes my blood boil to the roof hearing they're not "happy".

 

[Cuyen]

Cope tbh

 

[Animas]

naw dude this is hyper cope, most chads love their lives and wouldn’t have any other way, most women love their lives too they’re just virtue signaling and complaining for fun just to vent about any tiny little stress that comes along but it’s minor they’re happy

the only way they’re not happy if it’s theyre not hot enough to have a chad commit, then they’re too big of ungrateful cunts to settle and be appreciative and so they hate their lives

 

[SpringHeeledJack]

Cope. All Chads are happy.

 

[TheReaper]

social medias allow people to build a fake narrative around their boring lifes...
i agree on that.

 

[micropenis29]

naw dude this is hyper cope, most chads love their lives and wouldn’t have any other way, most women love their lives too they’re just virtue signaling and complaining for fun just to vent about any tiny little stress that comes along but it’s minor they’re happy

If they were happy, they wouldn't "complain for fun" or "virtue signal." These things are not fun. They're not what happy people do. They're what bored people do.

the only way they’re not happy if it’s theyre not hot enough to have a chad commit, then they’re too big of ungrateful cunts to settle and be appreciative and so they hate their lives.

Chad never commits. So you're basically admitting that "foids are always hating their lives."

Cope. All Chads are happy.

Translation: I, SpringHeeledJack, am too low-IQ to actually read the post and respond thoughtfully.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

True, chads and foids are happier than us but I would say they are still not that happy. Everyone was happier like 120 years ago before the greater decadence finally ruined society.

 

[micropenis29]

True, chads and foids are happier than us but I would say they are still not that happy.

Yes, and I think this is critical to realize. It's potential lifefuel, since many incels believe the gap between their happiness and that of Chads and foids is much greater than it really is.

 

[Unzöl]

Getting validation constantly from others can make you feel happy, but that's ephemeral and addictive.

 

[Animas]

If they were happy, they wouldn't "complain for fun" or "virtue signal." These things are not fun. They're not what happy people do. They're what bored people do.



Chad never commits. So you're basically admitting that "foids are always hating their lives."



Translation: I, SpringHeeledJack, am too low-IQ to actually read the post and respond thoughtfully.

happy people do complain nobody has it perfect, also chads do commit to hot girls, so do chadlites. Plenty of girls i’ve seen seem happy w their chadlite bfs. i do agree that many women do suffer from cunt syndrome and are sad just cuz chad won’t commit

 

[wereqryan]

Huge cope! Chads and Stacys are definitely happier than us lol

 

[Footmat]

Imagine eating every day food from a 5 Star Cook. Eating as much as you can. And now imagine you are a hungry guy, who gets a piece of bread after long time. Who enjoys more? Like Einstein said: "everything is relative". Saying "cope" at every little fact, that scratch at the black pill is nearly as unrealistic as being blue pilled.

 

[micropenis29]

happy people do complain nobody has it perfect

I disagree. I've known a handful of people that never complain and don't appear to be putting on any sort of act. Such people seem genuinely happier than the Chads and Stacies that regularly complain and quite often appear to be putting on an act.

also chads do commit to hot girls, so do chadlites.

I think this is false. Chads are by definition low-IQ and unable to be committed to their significant others. They always cheat or get bored and break it off.

Plenty of girls i’ve seen seem happy w their chadlite bfs. i do agree that many women do suffer from cunt syndrome and are sad just cuz chad won’t commit

Girls that "date Chadlites" are always getting a hefty dose of Chad cock on the side. Let's not kid ourselves.

And it follows that such girls are merely "settling" for Chadlite; they actually want Chad to commit (which he never does). This leaves them feeling bitter and miserable.

 

[Robtical]

I think most chads would kill themselves if they were forced to live in our shoes for a week.

 

[Animas]

I think most chads would kill themselves if they were forced to live in our shoes for a week.

imagine them swiping on tinder with no matches LMAO they would flip and rope on the spot

 

[micropenis29]

Huge cope! Chads and Stacys are definitely happier than us lol

What is your reasoning? Because it feels true to you?

Not everything is a cope. Most things are. Gymcelling, careermaxxing, looksmaxxing, are just a few that come to mind for me.

But if you lazily write off literally everything as a cope, you're being sloppy. If you're okay with that, then fine. But you're only hurting yourself.

 

[Robtical]

imagine them swiping on tinder with no matches LMAO they would flip and rope on the spot

Lol.

 

[micropenis29]

I think most chads would kill themselves if they were forced to live in our shoes for a week.

This is a nonsensical concept. Chads wouldn't be Chads if they "lived in our shoes." I don't know what you could possibly mean by such a phrase.

 

[Robtical]

This is a nonsensical concept. Chads wouldn't be Chads if they "lived in our shoes." I don't know what you could possibly mean by such a phrase.

Like if they became deformed and lost their friends.

 

[Footmat]

What is your reasoning? Because it feels true to you?

Not everything is a cope. Most things are. Gymcelling, careermaxxing, looksmaxxing, are just a few that come to mind for me.

But if you lazily write off literally everything as a cope, you're being sloppy. If you're okay with that, then fine. But you're only hurting yourself.

Exactly. Even if chads and Stacys suddenly al become cancer some people would scream "cope"

 

[micropenis29]

micropenis29 said:

This is a nonsensical concept. Chads wouldn't be Chads if they "lived in our shoes." I don't know what you could possibly mean by such a phrase.

Like if they became deformed and lost their friends.

Oh, like Vanilla Sky. Yes I agree.

 

[Iamthesui]

The 19th Amendment and subsequent feminist movement hasn't just destroyed the lives of men. It has destroyed the lives of women too.

Still, a lie that is spread by cucks, bluepillers, and even confused incels is that Chads and Stacies are living spectacularly happy lives.

Foids are indeed getting pleasure out of riding Chad's cock on a daily, or even hourly, basis. But addicts of all kinds get pleasure on a daily basis. Does that make them happy? Of course not. But I will go a step further and say that most foids and Chads I have come across seem miserable.

Incels often point to facebook and instagram photos as evidence of others' happiness. The problem with this theory is that happy and fulfilled people do not waste their time posting on facebook and instagram. Such people do not feel any desire to portray to other people that they are happy and fulfilled, for they are too busy directly experiencing that happiness and fulfillment.

Think about it. If your life was actually awesome, why would you even bother with social media at all? It would just be displacing time that could otherwise be spent experiencing the awesomeness.

Paradoxically, we will know that people are actually happier when they are no longer trying to appear happy.

I think you're mixing up happiness and fulfillment. They are likely happy each day but don't have a sense of fulfillment that each human strives for.
For example, they post on social media because it is now the norm and because they are arrogant and want to show others WHY they are happy.

However, they don't feel fulfilled because they aren't really doing anything besides what humanity calls on for survival. They are certainly not upset at their situation, unless they think they deserve more than they already have

 

[micropenis29]

They are likely happy each day but don't have a sense of fulfillment that each human strives for.

This sounds an awful lot like how we describe alcoholics that are getting drunk every day, yet we wouldn't say alcoholics are "happy." Therefore it seems ridiculous to call Chads and Stacies "happy."

I think you're mixing up happiness and fulfillment.

I don't think I'm mixing them up. I'm using "happy" and "fulfillment" synonymously, as most people do. I'm postulating that people are wrong to say others are "happy" just because they post pictures of themselves in which they appear to be enjoying themselves.

When people are truly enjoying themselves, it doesn't occur to them to take pictures, let alone post the pictures publicly.

For example, they post on social media because it is now the norm and because they are arrogant and want to show others WHY they are happy.

This sounds like boredom at best and misery at worst to me. I've had many truly happy experiences in my life. Not once did I have the desire to "show others WHY I am happy" during these experiences. That would be bizarre. That leads me to believe that the people who do this are not actually happy.

However, they don't feel fulfilled because they aren't really doing anything besides what humanity calls on for survival. They are certainly not upset at their situation, unless they think they deserve more than they already have

To reiterate: Fulfilled = happy in my view. So if they don't feel fulfilled, they aren't happy.

 

[Iamthesui]

This sounds an awful lot like how we describe alcoholics that are getting drunk every day, yet we wouldn't say alcoholics are "happy." Therefore it seems ridiculous to call Chads and Stacies "happy."



I don't think I'm mixing them up. I'm using "happy" and "fulfillment" synonymously, as most people do. I'm postulating that people are wrong to say others are "happy" just because they post pictures of themselves in which they appear to be enjoying themselves.

When people are truly enjoying themselves, it doesn't occur to them to take pictures, let alone post the pictures publicly.




This sounds like misery to me. I've had many truly happy experiences in my life. Not once did I have the desire to "show others WHY I am happy" during these experiences. That would be bizarre. That leads me to believe that they're not actually happy.



To reiterate: Fulfilled = happy in my view. So if they don't feel fulfilled, they aren't happy.

Well then you're not seeing it in the right light. They enjoy their life, they like posting to social media.
Its like saying how can the Amish be happy? They don't even have TV! Or the exact opposite for your case: The Amish must be happy because they CANT post to social media!
Both are wrong. Some people like being shallow and showing off. It's who they are

 

[micropenis29]

Well then you're not seeing it in the right light. They enjoy their life, they like posting to social media.

This is like saying, "they enjoy being drunk, and they like tasting different beers and wines."

I'm not disputing the things they are in fact doing and would claim to enjoy if you asked them. I'm disputing the actual utility they're deriving from those things relative to the utility that it is possible to derive from a truly happier life.

To be blunt: I don't believe them. I don't believe that they are happy. I have experienced and seen deeply satisfying forms of happiness, and what I'm seeing from them sets off my bullshit detector.

Its like saying how can the Amish be happy? They don't even have TV!

If the happiest people you'd ever come across were watching TV all the time and the happiest times you'd ever had were while you were watching TV, this would be a perfectly valid point. Since this isn't the case, this comparison doesn't work.

Or the exact opposite for your case: The Amish must be happy because they CANT post to social media!

I think you're confused here. It's not that posting on social media causes anyone to be unhappy. Rather, the fact that someone is posting on social media is evidence of their unhappiness. We know that there are lives and experiences that are fulfilling enough such that one wouldn't break from them to photograph themselves and "share" with the public.

In fact, the best possible experiences wouldn't even make sense to share publicly. Think of the most intimate moments you've ever had with another person or on drugs or listening to a piece of music or something else. Sharing this is not only undesirable; it's literally impossible because it's too subjectively dependent on your own brain chemistry; no one else could possible understand the level of enjoyment you're having.

This is why I actually find it almost embarrassing (but more accurately speaking, to be a cry for help) that other people share family events, vacations, etc. on social media; it's announcing to the world that they're not really having that great of a time (but that they want to be) and are looking for others to affirm that their lives are indeed good.

Both are wrong. Some people like being shallow and showing off. It's who they are

And I'm saying "their liking being shallow and showing off" is a sign of their misery. Again, it's analogous to an alcoholic "liking alcohol." No one disputes that they "like certain things." It's a question of whether they're happy or not.

 

[Asssymetricel]

The 19th Amendment and subsequent feminist movement hasn't just destroyed the lives of men. It has destroyed the lives of women too.

Still, a lie that is spread by cucks, bluepillers, and even confused incels is that Chads and Stacies are living spectacularly happy lives.

Foids are indeed getting pleasure out of riding Chad's cock on a daily, or even hourly, basis. But addicts of all kinds get pleasure on a daily basis. Does that make them happy? Of course not. But I will go a step further and say that most foids and Chads I have come across seem miserable.

Incels often point to facebook and instagram photos as evidence of others' happiness. The problem with this theory is that happy and fulfilled people do not waste their time posting on facebook and instagram. Such people do not feel any desire to portray to other people that they are happy and fulfilled, for they are too busy directly experiencing that happiness and fulfillment.

Think about it. If your life was actually awesome, why would you even bother with social media at all? It would just be displacing time that could otherwise be spent experiencing the awesomeness.

Paradoxically, we will know that people are actually happier when they are no longer trying to appear happy.

How does one define "happiness"? The novel version of happiness doesn't exist. There exists only eternal life & there is happiness

 

[micropenis29]

How does one define "happiness"? The novel version of happiness doesn't exist. There exists only eternal life & there is happiness

I don't think we need an exact definition. There are more desirable and less desirable experiences, depths of experiences, and so on. We can easily tell the difference between the happiest existences and the unhappiest ones, and the rest fall between them on that continuum.

 

[Arthas93]

It strikes me as self-evident that if one is truly having the time of his life on holiday in Spain, the last thing that occurs to him is, "Hey, I think I'll take some pictures of myself and post them on the internet!"

Posting pictures on social media is basically admitting to the world that one's life is not fulfilling. It's a borderline cry for help.

People don't interpret it this way since they themselves are too insecure to see through this monkeyish behavior.


"Cope" is the easy, mindless, and predictable response to this thread, but I think I have made a logical and concise argument that the Chads and Stacies posting their pictures on social media are in fact the ones who are coping.

I fully agree with you. Few Incels here admit that Chad's and Stacy's cope like us Incels and the normies. They don't cope for the same reasons as us obviously, but they cope.

A Chad for example, he can have any female he wants, and he can have sex every day if he wishes so. But he thinks that sex alone is not enough. So his life becomes a race with other Chad's. A race to show who gets more females, who has more sex, who drinks more, who travels the world more, who has more money, who drive better cars, who is more muscular/ripped.

That race is a mistake, Chad could easily just buy a farm and live peacefully with his 5 favorite females, fucking everyday, having a lot of kids, hunting, fishing, far away from any social media. He could even just become a rich farmer if he wanted.

But just like the Stacy's, Chad's today are addicted to social media attention. He doesn't want 5 good females who would even suck his ass. He wants to have more females than the Chad next to him. He doesn't want to live a peaceful and fulfilling life. He wants to make his life seem like an action movie, so that other Chad's and normies become envious of him and give him social media attention/praise.

Stacy will never get what she wants. No matter how many Chad cocks she suck, none of them will be faithful to her, none of them will love her, none of them will truly care for her.

 

[Asssymetricel]

I don't think we need an exact definition. There are more desirable and less desirable experiences, depths of experiences, and so on. We can easily tell the difference between the happiest existences and the unhappiest ones, and the rest fall between them on that continuum.

How come then the chads and stacies, as you stated that have the most desirable experiences from your POV not be happy? Life isn't an all time high it's highs and lows and most of the time it's just normal.

 

[micropenis29]

How come then the chads and stacies, as you stated that have the most desirable experiences from your POV not be happy? Life isn't an all time high it's highs and lows and most of the time it's just normal.

I think Arthas93 answered your question better than I could have:

Few Incels here admit that Chad's and Stacy's cope like us Incels and the normies. They don't cope for the same reasons as us obviously, but they cope.

A Chad for example, he can have any female he wants, and he can have sex every day if he wishes so. But he thinks that sex alone is not enough. So his life becomes a race with other Chad's. A race to show who gets more females, who has more sex, who drinks more, who travels the world more, who has more money, who drive better cars, who is more muscular/ripped.

That race is a mistake, Chad could easily just buy a farm and live peacefully with his 5 favorite females, fucking everyday, having a lot of kids, hunting, fishing, far away from any social media. He could even just become a rich farmer if he wanted.

But just like the Stacy's, Chad's today are addicted to social media attention. He doesn't want 5 good females who would even suck his ass. He wants to have more females than the Chad next to him. He doesn't want to live a peaceful and fulfilling life. He wants to make his life seem like an action movie, so that other Chad's and normies become envious of him and give him social media attention/praise.

Stacy will never get what she wants. No matter how many Chad cocks she suck, none of them will be faithful to her, none of them will love her, none of them will truly care for her.

 

[Arthas93]

naw dude this is hyper cope, most chads love their lives and wouldn’t have any other way, most women love their lives too they’re just virtue signaling and complaining for fun just to vent about any tiny little stress that comes along but it’s minor they’re happy

the only way they’re not happy if it’s theyre not hot enough to have a chad commit, then they’re too big of ungrateful cunts to settle and be appreciative and so they hate their lives

Chads will never commit, they can have sex with any female they want, any time they want. I don't believe that females today are happy. They whore themselves endlessly in search of a Golden Chad.

A Chad that will give them exclusive attention, love, respect, faithfulness, loyalty. Those things are the things that females are unable to feel themselves, but they want more than anything that a Chad feels it for them.

Sucking 3489 different Chad cocks for 10 years straight doesn't seem much like endgame happiness to me.

Getting validation constantly from others can make you feel happy, but that's ephemeral and addictive.

It is like drugs, it gives immediate pleasure, but it doesn't give lasting happiness. Chad's and females can fill their whole life with immediate pleasures. But was it a happy life?

 

[Angry_runt]

Everyone who replied is "cope" is incel because of their low IQ. If you said cope, your looks aren't the problem, your brains are the problem, just get smarter bro.

 

[NorthAfricanIncel]

Cope.

 

[Blacktarpill]

They are not hopeless.

 

[micropenis29]

They are not hopeless.

Nor should incels be.

Hopelessness makes no sense since the future is incredibly difficult to predict. Even the people that have stood to make billions of dollars should they predict it accurately have a terrible track record.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I don't think they're fulfilled on a "spiritual level". But they definitely have better lives than us. Maslow's hierarchy of needs states that you must fulfill your base needs before your spiritual needs. We're stuck at the 3rd level, whereas they're stuck at the 4th.

 

[micropenis29]

I don't think they're fulfilled on a "spiritual level". But they definitely have better lives than us. Maslow's hierarchy of needs states that you must fulfill your base needs before your spiritual needs. We're stuck at the 3rd level, whereas they're stuck at the 4th.

lol Fuck Maslow and his hierarchy of soy

 

[Mainländer]

I believe even most women are unhappy indeed, because they working and not having kids goes against their biological mission.

But Chads? Yeah, they may not be truly 100% happy but they figure without a doubt among the happiest people on Earth right now.

 

[micropenis29]

I believe even most women are unhappy indeed, because they working and not having kids goes against their biological mission.

Many of them aren't working though as they are welfare moms. They are thus extremely successful in the Darwinian biological sense. I argue that they're still miserable though because they desire to be cared for by Chad but they fail to accept that Chad is literally incapable of caring for any woman.

All foids also want Chad to care for their children, but Chad's IQ is too low to care for his own children. Chads are sexy but what often isn't talked about is that they are retarded.

But Chads? Yeah, they may not be truly 100% happy but they figure without a doubt among the happiest people on Earth right now.

I disagree. Chads are only happy in the way people with Down Syndrome are "happy." They're too dumb to actually have any deep experiences of happiness; everything is surface-level pleasures.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

lol Fuck Maslow and his hierarchy of soy

Maslow actually proves that inceldom is legit

 

[micropenis29]

Maslow actually proves that inceldom is legit

I was just trolling; I don't really know much about Maslow or his work.

But just from looking at the hierarchy, I am guessing he's overvaluing certain needs (such as intimacy, status, self-esteem, friendship etc.). I think eventually we'll discover that many of the psychological states associated with such needs are highly correlated with but not actually causally related to happiness.

 

[Mainländer]

Many of them aren't working though as they are welfare moms. They are thus extremely successful in the Darwinian biological sense. I argue that they're still miserable though because they desire to be cared for by Chad but they fail to accept that Chad is literally incapable of caring for any woman.

All foids also want Chad to care for their children, but Chad's IQ is too low to care for his own children. Chads are sexy but what often isn't talked about is that they are retarded.

The perfect life for a woman would be getting pregnant of many kids by a 10/10 Chad but having a barely doable looks-wise reliable betabuxx to take care of her and the kids. I'd guess single moms on welfare are still probably happier than us or than women that are in the workforce, since they're MOSTLY living on accordance to their biological purposes. But relying on government must be anxiety-inducing, since, deep down, you know this is not really a stable arrangement. It's like being a NEET being also anxiety-inducing.

I disagree. Chads are only happy in the way people with Down Syndrome are "happy." They're too dumb to actually have any deep experiences of happiness; everything is surface-level pleasures.

What does happiness mean to you? I, sadly, stopped believing in a superior, spiritual, self-generated, "enlightenment"-typed happiness. I think this world here is a hell and the best you can do here is complying to your biological imperatives the most you can.

For example, for me, maximum happiness would be having sexual and romantic access to several young, fertile foids of my preference in terms of race, looks, etc, as well as being a leader of men and having purpose on this sense. Kill your enemies and fuck their daughters, that's the closest you can get to happiness really IMO.

 

[CursedImoutoCel]

Going by Maslow's Hierarchy it would seem like normies are indeed happier (or at least more fulfilled than us) but from regular interaction with the normies I've gathered that really, even if they do get that "Love and Belonging" tier down pat, most of their relationships are extremely shallow. Leaving out ONS because they don't count, at least half of the people I know that are dating a girl aren't really doing much of anything other than getting occasional sex and maybe some intimate contact - they don't go on dates, they may barely see each other, but most importantly of all, they seem to have no actual connection. If you rummaged around a normie or a roastie's brain for a bit to find what they actually like about their partners I'm about 60% sure that you'd find nothing but physical qualities and maybe "agreeableness" in the list. Which is why I'm loathe to give them that point over us. Might just be a cope though.

As for "happy" happiness, most normies are only "content", "satiated", happy in the sense animals are happy when they're fed. I honestly don't think their NPC brains would even be able to process actual happiness.

 

[Rice Cel]

You just get used to whatever your living situation is and you get bored and want more. Just a human thing

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I was just trolling; I don't really know much about Maslow or his work.

But just from looking at the hierarchy, I am guessing he's overvaluing certain needs (such as intimacy, status, self-esteem, friendship etc.). I think eventually we'll discover that many of the psychological states associated with such needs are highly correlated with but not actually causally related to happiness.

True, and normies overrate the higher needs as well. There's a reason why the bases on a pyramid are wider, as they correlate to the significance of that need.