Discussion Truecel trait: You have a hard time expressing your ideas through your mouth.

[caineturbat2003]

Personally when I try to speak in english using my mouth, it comes off as disorganized speech and I even struggle to control my mouth's movement when expressing my words. I also have this sort of blockage when speaking and I need to put conscious effort in order to be able to say something, it's not anxiety or anything like that. It's a weird tick my brain has, I guess.

Maybe you could say it's because english isn't my native language, I get it, but I also have issues in my native tongue, romanian. With short sentences, I can speak them just fine, even fast. But when I have to articulate some complex ideas and actually express myself, I was told a couple times I speak weird and disorganized. I have to repeat myself in order for the person to understand what I am saying. I heard that is a schizo trait where you have this disorganized speech pattern and ideas, to you it would seem logical and rational, but to the outside person hearing this, you come off as some crazy lunatic.

Compared to chatting on the internet, I can communicate much better than using my mouth and voice.

Does anybody else go through this?

 

[anon65]

I have the same problem. Full-on speeches are a nightmare, and I will surely forget to say something important in them, every time.

 

[caineturbat2003]

I have the same problem. Full-on speeches are a nightmare, and I will surely forget to say something important in them, every time.

Yea, in my head I look like this high IQ maxxed nerd that would totally mind blow every person he comes across with his ideas. Then when I actually do it, I just come off as a schizo lunatic with a little bit of turbo autism on the side.

 

[SubhumanOldcel]

Same, even if I was fluent no one would listen anyway.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Same, even if I was fluent no one would listen anyway.

Tbh, the shit we learn is just too complex for the average normie. Even when I get the idea of expressing even simplest concepts, I think twice before I do that because it would be futile since normalfags are known to be retards thinking about mundane stuff.

 

[shyloser]

True, I can't even communicate in text honestly, my speech is too disorganized and I either run out of things to say or I know what I should say but I can't formulate it in a coherent sentence, like no one understands anything about it, if I listened to myself I wouldn't understand either

My anxiety makes it worse too when I know what to say and how to say but I still don't because I have to take into account the situation and the possible reactions I could receive and how I would respond to them

 

[caineturbat2003]

True, I can't even communicate in text honestly, my speech is too disorganized and I either run out of things to say or I know what I should say but I can't formulate it in a coherent sentence, like no one understands anything about it, if I listened to myself I wouldn't understand either

My anxiety makes it worse too when I know what to say and how to say but I still don't because I have to take into account the situation and the possible reactions I could receive and how I would respond to them

For me I think it's more like a schizo thing. When you learn more stuff everyday, the more socially foreign you become to normies.

 

[SubhumanOldcel]

Tbh, the shit we learn is just too complex for the average normie. Even when I get the idea of expressing even simplest concepts, I think twice before I do that because it would be futile since normalfags are known to be retards thinking about mundane stuff.

Very true.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Yes, although I have a hard time expressing anything in words.
Typing on the other hand is so much more efficient. You can spend as much time as you wish to contemplate on what to say. With no pressure or environmental factors.

 

[ParasiteToSociety]

Yes, I have the same and it’s fucking annoying, I have a lot of ideas in my head, but when go to speak it sounds like I’m mentally disabled, heck even my typing on the internet is retarded, I think it’s mainly the fact that ever since joining this forum I’ve typed the most I have in my life because I’m a social reject, I used this forum to get better at typing and better at properly putting everything together and I’m still improving on it.

What’s also is annoying is that i want to participate on the high IQ debates on here but thanks to my “simpleton” communication style it’s not possible and if I tried to reply to a large thread it’ll take me too long to type it out thanks to my verbal/typing retardation, I’ll read the large thread it’s that I don’t know how to respond to it without looking like a simpleton.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Yes, although I have a hard time expressing anything in words.
Typing on the other hand is so much more efficient. You can spend as much time as you wish to contemplate on what to say. With no pressure or environmental factors.

Yes and with practice, when you type the things you wanna say, it just comes out naturally without having to think for a sec. In real life, you just can't have that luxury.

 

[caineturbat2003]

I think it's also because of the amount of trauma we faced in our childhoods, we've basically inherited brain damage that greatly affected our development. I did heard that people with severe trauma have a trouble time expressing what they have in mind, even stuttering hard.

 

[tired as fuck]

Personally when I try to speak in english using my mouth, it comes off as disorganized speech and I even struggle to control my mouth's movement when expressing my words. I also have this sort of blockage when speaking and I need to put conscious effort in order to be able to say something, it's not anxiety or anything like that. It's a weird tick my brain has, I guess.

Maybe you could say it's because english isn't my native language, I get it, but I also have issues in my native tongue, romanian. With short sentences, I can speak them just fine, even fast. But when I have to articulate some complex ideas and actually express myself, I was told a couple times I speak weird and disorganized. I have to repeat myself in order for the person to understand what I am saying. I heard that is a schizo trait where you have this disorganized speech pattern and ideas, to you it would seem logical and rational, but to the outside person hearing this, you come off as some crazy lunatic.

Compared to chatting on the internet, I can communicate much better than using my mouth and voice.

Does anybody else go through this?

dude holy fucking shit, you just put into words what I've been feeling about myself for the past 4 years...

am I schizo?

 

[tired as fuck]

Yes, I have the same and it’s fucking annoying, I have a lot of ideas in my head, but when go to speak it sounds like I’m mentally disabled, heck even my typing on the internet is retarded, I think it’s mainly the fact that ever since joining this forum I’ve typed the most I have in my life because I’m a social reject, I used this forum to get better at typing and better at properly putting everything together and I’m still improving on it.

What’s also is annoying is that i want to participate on the high IQ debates on here but thanks to my “simpleton” communication style it’s not possible and if I tried to reply to a large thread it’ll take me too long to type it out thanks to my verbal/typing retardation, I’ll read the large thread it’s that I don’t know how to respond to it without looking like a simpleton.

honestly no one will care about how you write if your ideas are strong

 

[caineturbat2003]

am I schizo?

Maybe, disorganized speech and thoughts are associated with that. It doesn't necessarely have to be just hallucinations. I think our isolation has greatly fucked up our brain's chemistry. Even too much porn consumption and garbage fast foods and whatever other addictions we have also does some damage to the brain.

Adding the fact we literally learned about the BP, the JQ and other conspiracies, you might as well wear the schizo badge.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Yes and with practice, when you type the things you wanna say, it just comes out naturally without having to think for a sec. In real life, you just can't have that luxury.

Nope
I wonder if .is was all in person conversations whether or not we would have great speaking skills

 

[goyim next door]

The worst part for me is when you actually plan out what you're gonna write out/say, only for you to forget half of it and have to say half assed, watered down version off of it.

 

[tired as fuck]

Maybe, disorganized speech and thoughts are associated with that. It doesn't necessarely have to be just hallucinations. I think our isolation has greatly fucked up our brain's chemistry. Even too much porn consumption and garbage fast foods and whatever other addictions we have also does some damage to the brain.

Adding the fact we literally learned about the BP, the JQ and other conspiracies, you might as well wear the schizo badge.

my only addiction is dissociating, I can do it almost instinctively, I acquired it when escaping my broken household and shitty high school life, but I have trouble studying because I am never there mentally, sucks. I always feel like I'm not actually me, but just going by automatically.

 

[caineturbat2003]

honestly no one will care about how you write if your ideas are strong

Normalfags are so disingenuous and sophistic that if they catch even a grammar mistake, they will run with that until you start getting angry and leave.

Even in Romania if you make any spelling or grammar mistake, you've lost the argument in the eyes of the normalfag.

 

[tired as fuck]

Nope
I wonder if .is was all in person conversations whether or not we would have great speaking skills

you wouldn't have the must read section kek

 

[Moth]

You mean you have a hard time articulating?

 

[caineturbat2003]

my only addiction is dissociating, I can do it almost instinctively, I acquired it when escaping my broken household and shitty high school life, but I have trouble studying because I am never there mentally, sucks. I always feel like I'm not actually me, but just going by automatically.

Yes, dissociating is also an addiction of mine. Back then when I was more independent and left the house, I could remember I was in a sort of trance state of building great worlds whilst I was moving. And if I were to come across a person, I would quickly go out of that state, avoid that person then go back.

Even when doing an activity, I would have the tendency to dissociate and think to myself as if I am a god to this mental world that I've created. Everytime I do this, I have this adrenaline pumped into my veins, making me feel more alive than ever. I got so into this activity that I might as call it my personal legacy.

I think it's called maladaptive daydreaming, idk.

I remember once I was going through this intense mental breakdown in the bathroom that I would break down into these 2 personalities. One was a kind hearted person, caring about every individual he would come across, the other would be this sociopathic sadist that absolutely despises humanity.

But I quickly got my shit together and finally felt like one person again. I have to mention the 1st persona was like my child self, while the 2nd one is probably my development throughout these years.

 

[caineturbat2003]

You mean you have a hard time articulating?

Yes, english is a bitch.

 

[tired as fuck]

Yes, dissociating is also an addiction of mine. Back then when I was more independent and left the house, I could remember I was in a sort of trance state of building great worlds whilst I was moving. And if I were to come across a person, I would quickly go out of that state, avoid that person then go back.

Even when doing an activity, I would have the tendency to dissociate and think to myself as if I am a god to this mental world that I've created. Everytime I do this, I have this adrenaline pumped into my veins, making me feel more alive than ever. I got so into this activity that I might as call it my personal legacy.

I think it's called maladaptive daydreaming, idk.

I remember once I was going through this intense mental breakdown in the bathroom that I would break down into these 2 personalities. One was a kind hearted person, caring about every individual he would come across, the other would be this sociopathic sadist that absolutely despises humanity.

But I quickly got my shit together and finally felt like one person again. I have to mention the 1st persona was like my child self, while the 2nd one is probably my development throughout these years.

yeah it's maladaptive daydreaming, but I don't feel good, just frustrated because I wanna stoodymaxx y'know

 

[caineturbat2003]

yeah it's maladaptive daydreaming, but I don't feel good, just frustrated because I wanna stoodymaxx y'know

For me it's a lifefuel, I think I mastered this back when I was a kid. I already knew I was screwed, even subconciously, so I quickly adopted escapist copes.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Nope
I wonder if .is was all in person conversations whether or not we would have great speaking skills

I also played roblox back in 2016 and communicated with people using chat. I got used to it, I even have this tendency to write in perfect grammar as much as possible. I guess it's different for each person.

 

[Sir Silentium]

I also played roblox back in 2016 and communicated with people using chat. I got used to it, I even have this tendency to write in perfect grammar as much as possible. I guess it's different for each person.

I can relate. I met up with a .is user and he thought I was a fed, due to my use of perfect grammer.

I can't comprehend the normie dialect.

 

[caineturbat2003]

I can't comprehend the normie dialect.

For me it's just annoying.

 

[nihilum]

neurodevelopmental disorders

 

[SeungCho764]

Personally when I try to speak in english using my mouth, it comes off as disorganized speech and I even struggle to control my mouth's movement when expressing my words. I also have this sort of blockage when speaking and I need to put conscious effort in order to be able to say something, it's not anxiety or anything like that. It's a weird tick my brain has, I guess.

Maybe you could say it's because english isn't my native language, I get it, but I also have issues in my native tongue, romanian. With short sentences, I can speak them just fine, even fast. But when I have to articulate some complex ideas and actually express myself, I was told a couple times I speak weird and disorganized. I have to repeat myself in order for the person to understand what I am saying. I heard that is a schizo trait where you have this disorganized speech pattern and ideas, to you it would seem logical and rational, but to the outside person hearing this, you come off as some crazy lunatic.

Compared to chatting on the internet, I can communicate much better than using my mouth and voice.

Does anybody else go through this?

I am capable of writing very nice essays and I score very high on English tests, but I still have this problem. brutal

 

[INVERTER]

Personally when I try to speak in english using my mouth, it comes off as disorganized speech and I even struggle to control my mouth's movement when expressing my words. I also have this sort of blockage when speaking and I need to put conscious effort in order to be able to say something, it's not anxiety or anything like that. It's a weird tick my brain has, I guess.

Maybe you could say it's because english isn't my native language, I get it, but I also have issues in my native tongue, romanian. With short sentences, I can speak them just fine, even fast. But when I have to articulate some complex ideas and actually express myself, I was told a couple times I speak weird and disorganized. I have to repeat myself in order for the person to understand what I am saying. I heard that is a schizo trait where you have this disorganized speech pattern and ideas, to you it would seem logical and rational, but to the outside person hearing this, you come off as some crazy lunatic.

Compared to chatting on the internet, I can communicate much better than using my mouth and voice.

Does anybody else go through this?

Yes, if it's anything longer than one or two sentences everything gets jumbled.

 

[Dolls & Gor]

I heard that is a schizo trait

Do not give ANY credence to the hateful cult of psychiatry. They've been abusing persons like you for centuries. Your writing is fine, highly intelligent. Speaking in the presence of strangers is very difficult. It's made even worse when we live under the constant stigma of not having a girlfriend ; it rots our soul, and manifests as a lack of confidence or care about what results from the interaction.

 

[captchawaffen]

I speak very erratically and fast when I am calm

 

[NickelodeonCel]

Same. Probably comes from me being isolated for years

 

[mill45_ett]

I’ve always struggled with this. It compounds my isolation in that people will clearly give up on even trying to understand what I’m saying before it finishes coming out, like it’s not worth the effort. I am aware I get tangled in thoughts and in words that detrimentally change the entirety of what I’m saying but idk where exactly I’m going wrong so I’ve long been resigned to just talking with myself. Can’t simplify what I’m saying enough I guess.

 

[Shitskin=Shitlife]

It's because people don't care about what we say and have zero respect for us. Your brain struggles to communicate your ideas because it knows they won't matter to the other party anyways.