cvh1991
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Sex and Gender have been used interchangeably going on forever and their meanings are inextricably linked. We call someone “him” or “her” depending on their biological sex/depending on what they are, not based on what they wish they were. To do so is to indulge delusion which I don't think is healthy.
Said another way, what I want to be has no bearing on what I am and it's baffling that this conversation even exists. Wanting to be the other thing doesn’t magically change my chromosomes and even a post op trans individual can only be considered the other sex if we loosen or alter our definitions. That’s really what it comes down to — who’s definition do we use, but there remain apparent differences between say a natural born male and a trans male for example.
Consider a natural born female VS a trans female. Consider how different these two things are -- one cannot bear children. One has fake/non-functional breasts. One has a different set of chromosomes. These are clearly different things and there remains a discernible and apparent difference between the two of them yet acknowledging the truth/reality results in your being attacked and outright banned/censored en masse.
People often bring up intersex to bolster the view that there are tons of genders and to posit that whether one is male or female is not so straight forward, but it's stupid that this is trotted out as anything close to a valid argument when it's not. Intersex people are a genetic anomaly and are not representative of the normal population. You don’t use an outlier to establish a normal baseline. This is the dumbest fucking talking point that pro trans people use to justify their ridiculous position and even if we did, then you'd have 3 genders, not the plethora we're now told insistently exist.
Moreover, expressing this position gets you immediately labeled as """"""Transphobic""""""" which is incorrect and non-sequitor at the baseline. Transphobia suggests a fear or perhaps dislike or even hatred for the group — I don’t personally dislike or fear (lol) trans folk as people and I fully agree that they can do whatever the fuck they want to themselves if they're consenting adults, but I do disagree with their reasoning and position in light of what I’ve described above. That’s not transphobia though, it's attacking a position rather than an individual -- but try getting that through to these fucking retard big-tech SJW types over on Le Reddit/Twitter (etc) my lord.
Do the trans person/big tech/SJWs hold a terribly reasoned and irrational position? Yes -- yes they absolutely do and they're wrong. They take it further than being wrong to boot which is the worst part by trying to force everyone else to indulge their delusion lest you be "cancelled" and attacked/have your reputation destroyed.
I had an account banned off of "Le Reddit" awhile back for explaining this (I know, shit site) and it's honestly pathetic that since they can't win the actual argument they immediately resort to the Ad Hominem fallacy (same as they do with the insult of "incels") and they ban/censor you to protect their bullshit retarded ideas. These people can't handle the truth and want to force everyone else to indulge their delusion.
Going on a bit, this is why the whole "Apache Helicopter" joke is funny -- because my wishing I was female lets say for sake of example is no different or better than my wishing I was an Apache Helicopter -- I simply am not that thing full stop, I am something else and no amount of delusion makes it so.
You know what the SJWs do though? They say, "Hey, but imagine if Apache Attack Helicopter meant X instead of Y -- imagine if we just changed the definition so that it now meant something else that I want it to." This is what they've attempted and seem to have largely succeeded at doing with the word "Gender" which now the mainstream is convinced means "whatever someone identifies as" -- which is delusional horse shit.
You can't say a Tomato is now a Spade to shovel your bullshit argument -- yah know, because words mean things. We live in a world commitment to reality and to reason gets you labeled as a monster and you're unable to even engage in debate because the big tech platforms will ban you out and the masses will destroy your reputation -- even when you're correct and they are incorrect. Similar trend for Incels in general for that matter in the sense that incels are broadly correct about women/the state of western society if you even you even remotely keep up with dating (online/speed dating) and sex studies for example (see the compilation of blackpill science studies on incels.wiki for example), but I digress... God I'm glad this board exists -- finally some fucking sanity.
Said another way, what I want to be has no bearing on what I am and it's baffling that this conversation even exists. Wanting to be the other thing doesn’t magically change my chromosomes and even a post op trans individual can only be considered the other sex if we loosen or alter our definitions. That’s really what it comes down to — who’s definition do we use, but there remain apparent differences between say a natural born male and a trans male for example.
Consider a natural born female VS a trans female. Consider how different these two things are -- one cannot bear children. One has fake/non-functional breasts. One has a different set of chromosomes. These are clearly different things and there remains a discernible and apparent difference between the two of them yet acknowledging the truth/reality results in your being attacked and outright banned/censored en masse.
People often bring up intersex to bolster the view that there are tons of genders and to posit that whether one is male or female is not so straight forward, but it's stupid that this is trotted out as anything close to a valid argument when it's not. Intersex people are a genetic anomaly and are not representative of the normal population. You don’t use an outlier to establish a normal baseline. This is the dumbest fucking talking point that pro trans people use to justify their ridiculous position and even if we did, then you'd have 3 genders, not the plethora we're now told insistently exist.
Moreover, expressing this position gets you immediately labeled as """"""Transphobic""""""" which is incorrect and non-sequitor at the baseline. Transphobia suggests a fear or perhaps dislike or even hatred for the group — I don’t personally dislike or fear (lol) trans folk as people and I fully agree that they can do whatever the fuck they want to themselves if they're consenting adults, but I do disagree with their reasoning and position in light of what I’ve described above. That’s not transphobia though, it's attacking a position rather than an individual -- but try getting that through to these fucking retard big-tech SJW types over on Le Reddit/Twitter (etc) my lord.
Do the trans person/big tech/SJWs hold a terribly reasoned and irrational position? Yes -- yes they absolutely do and they're wrong. They take it further than being wrong to boot which is the worst part by trying to force everyone else to indulge their delusion lest you be "cancelled" and attacked/have your reputation destroyed.
I had an account banned off of "Le Reddit" awhile back for explaining this (I know, shit site) and it's honestly pathetic that since they can't win the actual argument they immediately resort to the Ad Hominem fallacy (same as they do with the insult of "incels") and they ban/censor you to protect their bullshit retarded ideas. These people can't handle the truth and want to force everyone else to indulge their delusion.
Going on a bit, this is why the whole "Apache Helicopter" joke is funny -- because my wishing I was female lets say for sake of example is no different or better than my wishing I was an Apache Helicopter -- I simply am not that thing full stop, I am something else and no amount of delusion makes it so.
You know what the SJWs do though? They say, "Hey, but imagine if Apache Attack Helicopter meant X instead of Y -- imagine if we just changed the definition so that it now meant something else that I want it to." This is what they've attempted and seem to have largely succeeded at doing with the word "Gender" which now the mainstream is convinced means "whatever someone identifies as" -- which is delusional horse shit.
You can't say a Tomato is now a Spade to shovel your bullshit argument -- yah know, because words mean things. We live in a world commitment to reality and to reason gets you labeled as a monster and you're unable to even engage in debate because the big tech platforms will ban you out and the masses will destroy your reputation -- even when you're correct and they are incorrect. Similar trend for Incels in general for that matter in the sense that incels are broadly correct about women/the state of western society if you even you even remotely keep up with dating (online/speed dating) and sex studies for example (see the compilation of blackpill science studies on incels.wiki for example), but I digress... God I'm glad this board exists -- finally some fucking sanity.
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