Oneitiscel
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A huge amount of incel rhetoric revolves around some variation of:
"Women get to be beautiful."
"Women get to be desired."
"Women get to express emotion."
"Women get to be vulnerable."
"Women get to receive affection."
"Women get to choose partners."
"Women get to be socially supported."
"Women get to escape the pressures placed on men."
Now, obviously, these beliefs are often wildly detached from women's actual lived experiences. They are fantasies about womanhood, not descriptions of womanhood—specifically, a version of womanhood constructed through a masculine lens.
But fantasies still tell us something.
The men who spend enormous amounts of time obsessing over female beauty, female desirability, female social power, female emotional expression, and female sexual freedom may be telling us something important about themselves.
I don't think this means most incels are secretly trans. They aren't.
It is, however, true that gender dysphoria and gender incongruence do not exist in only one form.
So I do think some people who eventually transition emerge from these communities because what they were actually experiencing was a conflict with masculinity itself. Their hostility toward women was, at least in part, hostility toward aspects of themselves they had been taught to suppress.
Because when someone spends enormous amounts of energy policing femininity, condemning vulnerability, obsessing over dominance, and fearing anything perceived as submissive, that often tells us less about women and more about that person's own unresolved relationship with gender.





