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It was delicious, better than raw beef. It's been 30 minutes and i don't feel like the yersinia enterocolitica "bacteria" has taken over my intestines yet. If i get food poisoning i will never eat raw pork again, if i don't i will continue eating raw pork for the rest of my life. I will keep you updated on what happens. If i somehow get sick then i know it was shit quality meat.
 
Why would you get sick unless you undercooked?
 
Why would you get sick unless you undercooked?
You're right. Most food poisonings are caused by undercooked meat and not raw meat. However if the quality of the meat is shit and full of vaccines, the risk of poisoning is also high when eaten raw.
 
That’s the blackpill
 
You're Japanese right? Don't they eat alot of raw pork in Japan? Or are you an ethnic/white/asian posing as a Japanese?
I’m a Spaniard that likes Imperial Japanese history (1868-1945) that’s why, that’s the blackpill
 
How would vaccines be a problem? They don't stay in the blood lol.

The big problem are overuse of antibiotics and multi resistent bacteria. In Germany alone 40k people die to these each year...

Most important if you eat raw pork is, that it's fresh (not longer kept than 4 days after slaughter), animals are ideally not too industrially kept and slaughtered with good hygiene.


Common German and well beloved dish here.

Why would you get sick unless you undercooked?
Wat? Why would undercooked be worse than uncooked?
 
It was delicious, better than raw beef. It's been 30 minutes and i don't feel like the yersinia enterocolitica "bacteria" has taken over my intestines yet. If i get food poisoning i will never eat raw pork again, if i don't i will continue eating raw pork for the rest of my life. I will keep you updated on what happens. If i somehow get sick then i know it was shit quality meat.
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How would vaccines be a problem? They don't stay in the blood lol.

The big problem are overuse of antibiotics and multi resistent bacteria. In Germany alone 40k people die to these each year...

Most important if you eat raw pork is, that it's fresh (not longer kept than 4 days after slaughter), animals are ideally not too industrially kept and slaughtered with good hygiene.


Common German and well beloved dish here.


Wat? Why would undercooked be worse than uncooked?
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It's been a few hrs and i think i'm fine. Turns out Swedistani pork is high quality after all.
 
Video says undercooked not raw. Raw is safer than undercooked.

Raw would be worse than undercooked because if it's undercooked it's been cooked a little bit, just not enough to be safe.
 
why did you eat it raw instead of cooked?
 
Raw would be worse than undercooked because if it's undercooked it's been cooked a little bit, just not enough to be safe.
Most food poisonings comes from cooked food. I've eaten raw muscle meat for 3 years and never been sick. I have only gotten sick from undercooked chicken and raw liver.
 
Most food poisonings comes from cooked food. I've eaten raw muscle meat for 3 years and never been sick. I have only gotten sick from undercooked chicken and raw liver.

Raw beef you can eat.

'Beef is in most cases safe to eat raw, as long as you sear the surface of the meat. This is because, on whole cuts of beef, bacterial contamination (such as E. coli) is usually only present on the outside.'

Not pork!

'Eating raw or undercooked pork is not a good idea. The meat can harbor parasites, like roundworms or tapeworms. These can cause foodborne illnesses like trichinosis or taeniasis. While rare, trichinosis can lead to serious complications that are sometimes fatal.'
 
why did you eat it raw instead of cooked?
32 toxic by-products are created from cooking meat. Acrylamides are also common in cooked fat, i want to avoid that. My digestion is also much better on a raw diet and i have more energy, less lethargic.
 
32 toxic by-products are created from cooking meat. Acrylamides are also common in cooked fat, i want to avoid that. My digestion is also much better on a raw diet and i have more energy, less lethargic.
how long have you been eating raw meat
 
Raw beef you can eat.

'Beef is in most cases safe to eat raw, as long as you sear the surface of the meat. This is because, on whole cuts of beef, bacterial contamination (such as E. coli) is usually only present on the outside.'

Not pork!

'Eating raw or undercooked pork is not a good idea. The meat can harbor parasites, like roundworms or tapeworms. These can cause foodborne illnesses like trichinosis or taeniasis. While rare, trichinosis can lead to serious complications that are sometimes fatal.'
Swedistani pigs don't have trichinosis. Not a case since the early 90s. Yersinia might exist but... I think i'm fine. As long as the animal is healthy.
how long have you been eating raw meat
I've never done the diet 100% but overall 2-3 years (raw primal diet by Aajonus Vonderplanitz) look him up.
 
Swedistani pigs don't have trichinosis. Not a case since the early 90s. Yersinia might exist but... I think i'm fine. As long as the animal is healthy.

Eh? Looks like you can eat it raw but you have to trace it's source.

 
Eh? Looks like you can eat it raw but you have to trace it's source.

You can also eat raw chicken if it's from a good source. One of the most controversial food to eat raw.
 
You can also eat raw chicken if it's from a good source. One of the most controversial food to eat raw.

Humans didn't evolve to digest raw meat we only started eating meat when we discovered fire. Mind you chimps eat meat but we were never chimps.
 
Humans didn't evolve to digest raw meat we only started eating meat when we discovered fire. Mind you chimps eat meat but we were never chimps.
That's bull. Neanderthals ate raw meat. Since raw meat has more active nutrients our brains evolved that way.
 
That's bull. Neanderthals ate raw meat. Since raw meat has more active nutrients our brains evolved that way.

No Neanderthals had fire, they cooked all their meat. You have to good to homo erectus for the first use of fire that's way way before Neanderthals evolved.

'Claims for the earliest definitive evidence of control of fire by a member of Homo range from 1.7 to 2.0 million years ago (Mya). Evidence for the "microscopic traces of wood ash" as controlled use of fire by Homo erectus, beginning some 1,000,000 years ago, has wide scholarly support.'
 
No Neanderthals had fire, they cooked all their meat. You have to good to homo erectus for the first use of fire that's way way before Neanderthals evolved.

'Claims for the earliest definitive evidence of control of fire by a member of Homo range from 1.7 to 2.0 million years ago (Mya). Evidence for the "microscopic traces of wood ash" as controlled use of fire by Homo erectus, beginning some 1,000,000 years ago, has wide scholarly support.'
Not saying they didn't cook their meat since they had fires in their caves however there's no proof of them never eating raw meat. Most tribes ate raw meat and some still do to this day.
 
Not saying they didn't cook their meat since they had fires in their caves however there's no proof of them never eating raw meat. Most tribes ate raw meat and some still do to this day.

They lived in ice age Europe if they had no fire they would freeze and if they didn't cook their meat they wouldn't have got the energy they needed to survive the ice age winter. There would have been little nutritional value eating it raw so no good reason for them to have done so. A lion can eat meat raw and get everything they need from it but human digestive system isn't anything like a lions. It's intended more for digesting fruit and vegetable matter.

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You can see what human teeth most resemble, we don't even have a proper omnivore set. Meat isn't really our thing but the use of fire and cooking was really what was needed for us to properly process it.
 
They lived in ice age Europe if they had no fire they would freeze and if they didn't cook their meat they wouldn't have got the energy they needed to survive the ice age winter. There would have been little nutritional value eating it raw so no good reason for them to have done so. A lion can eat meat raw and get everything they need from it but human digestive system isn't anything like a lions. It's intended more for digesting fruit and vegetable matter.

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You can see what human teeth most resemble, we don't even have a proper omnivore set. Meat isn't really our thing but the use of fire and cooking was really what was needed for us to properly process it.
Ah the good ol herbivore teeth argument, used by vegans since the early 2010s.

We as humans don't have the enzymes to digest vegetables/plants properly, we also don't have 4 stomaches like most herbivores and we don't grind our teeths horizontally like horses. Some Neanderthals also lived in a warmer climates so why wouldn't they eat raw meat? What makes you think raw meat doesn't give energy or nutrients to survive? That's probably the most stupidest thing i've heard this week. Raw meat is easier to digest, you can swallow it whole and fast like we are suppose to do in nature. Don't believe in stupid scientists who want to demonize raw meat.
 
Ah the good ol herbivore teeth argument, used by vegans since the early 2010s.

We as humans don't have the enzymes to digest vegetables/plants properly, we also don't have 4 stomaches like most herbivores and we don't grind our teeths horizontally like horses. Some Neanderthals also lived in a warmer climates so why wouldn't they eat raw meat? What makes you think raw meat doesn't give energy or nutrients to survive? That's probably the most stupidest thing i've heard this week. Raw meat is easier to digest, you can swallow it whole and fast like we are suppose to do in nature. Don't believe in stupid scientists who want to demonize raw meat.

Human ancestors had a primarily fruit based diet really, we're fruit eaters, frugivores.

A frugivore is an animal that thrives mostly on raw fruits, succulent fruit-like vegetables, roots, shoots, nuts and seeds. Approximately 20% of mammalian herbivores eat fruit. Frugivores are highly dependent on the abundance and nutritional composition of fruits.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmkumVP5ZGA


If you ate nothing but raw fruit you would be very healthy if you ate nothing but raw meat or vegetables you would be very sick.
 
Raw stuff can be very tasty
 
Human ancestors had a primarily fruit based diet really, we're fruit eaters, frugivores.

A frugivore is an animal that thrives mostly on raw fruits, succulent fruit-like vegetables, roots, shoots, nuts and seeds. Approximately 20% of mammalian herbivores eat fruit. Frugivores are highly dependent on the abundance and nutritional composition of fruits.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmkumVP5ZGA


If you ate nothing but raw fruit you would be very healthy if you ate nothing but raw meat or vegetables you would be very sick.

I know what a frugivore is and it's a pretty stupid theory that we are suppose to be fruitarians. How do you get your B12 then? Fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, K2? Omega 3s? Supplements didn't exist 2000 years ago for example. There are no tropical fruits available in northern/central Europe unless they are man-made from a tree planted in modern times or imported and bought at a modern market. Fruitarianism is just a modern diet that only apes could survive on but even apes eat meat/other apes and insects, there's plenty of footage of it.

You would get Anemia if you only ate fruits without taking supplements as a human, same with plants. You would thrive and be healthy if you only ate raw meat and shellfish, because all the nutrients are available for optimal health.
 
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I know what a frugivore is and it's a pretty stupid theory that we are suppose to be fruitarians. How do you get your B12 then? Fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, K2? Omega 3s? Supplements didn't exist 2000 years ago for example.

There's the "aquatic ape" theory which may account for the B12 requirement. Our ancestors may have waded around after shellfish, which may account for why we walk upright and lack a dense covering of hair. These are water adaptations. Also we can swim while other apes can't at all.

'Dietary Sources of Vitamin B12​

Vitamin B12 occurs naturally only in animal products (Miller, 2014). The following foods are good dietary sources of vitamin B12:

  • Mussels: 20.4 micrograms per 3-ounce serving
  • Clams: 84.1 micrograms per 3-ounce serving
  • Crab: 9.8 micrograms per 3-ounce serving'


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Got your B12 there. If not then eggs would be a good source for it or that's something we developed a need for only after cooked meat became incorporated into our diet.

But primarily humans are designed to eat a nice bit of fruit (and some vegetables and nuts) as can be seen here.

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Meat is a very recent addition once we discovered fire and cooking. It was still a significant addition don't get me wrong. The massive amount of extra calories we got from cooked meat may have stimulated brain growth, the modern human brain is about twice the size of this guy here. A larger brain allows for greater scope in communication/language and tool use. The ability to plan head and what have you, so a big survival advantage. .

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But he seems happy enough.

Fruitarianism is just a modern diet that only apes could survive on but even apes eat meat/other apes and insects, there's plenty of footage of it.

It depends how far back in time you want to go. If you look at my avi there.

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He would be quite happy on the fruit, nuts and some vegetables. No meat or B12 required. Our diet is still 80% like his though we have evolved to eat other things. Cooked meat we did evolve to eat but we never evolved to eat raw meat at all. That was the only point I was really making.
 
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cooked meat we did evolve to eat but we never evolved to eat raw meat at all. That was the only point I was really making.
But you're still admitting early humans ate raw meat before fires were discovered. It would make zero sense that their brains didn't evolve anything from eating raw meat. Why can't you just admit raw meat has nutrients in it for brain development?
 
Anytime raw meat is mentioned reminded of s3vrige ngl
 
How would vaccines be a problem? They don't stay in the blood lol.

The big problem are overuse of antibiotics and multi resistent bacteria. In Germany alone 40k people die to these each year...

Most important if you eat raw pork is, that it's fresh (not longer kept than 4 days after slaughter), animals are ideally not too industrially kept and slaughtered with good hygiene.


Common German and well beloved dish here.
Important from your wikipedia link:
"Unless pre-packaged, the German Lebensmittelhygiene-Verordnung ("food hygiene/health directive") permits mett to be sold only on the day of production."
Ah the good ol herbivore teeth argument, used by vegans since the early 2010s.

We as humans don't have the enzymes to digest vegetables/plants properly, we also don't have 4 stomaches like most herbivores and we don't grind our teeths horizontally like horses. Some Neanderthals also lived in a warmer climates so why wouldn't they eat raw meat? What makes you think raw meat doesn't give energy or nutrients to survive? That's probably the most stupidest thing i've heard this week. Raw meat is easier to digest, you can swallow it whole and fast like we are suppose to do in nature. Don't believe in stupid scientists who want to demonize raw meat.
This debate will never be settled. Like religion arguments about which diet is the best for humans has been going on for a long time.
Human ancestors had a primarily fruit based diet really, we're fruit eaters, frugivores.

A frugivore is an animal that thrives mostly on raw fruits, succulent fruit-like vegetables, roots, shoots, nuts and seeds. Approximately 20% of mammalian herbivores eat fruit. Frugivores are highly dependent on the abundance and nutritional composition of fruits.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmkumVP5ZGA


If you ate nothing but raw fruit you would be very healthy if you ate nothing but raw meat or vegetables you would be very sick.

Disagree you need some vegetables in addition to fruits also to feel full.
There's the "aquatic ape" theory which may account for the B12 requirement. Our ancestors may have waded around after shellfish, which may account for why we walk upright and lack a dense covering of hair. These are water adaptations. Also we can swim while other apes can't at all.

'Dietary Sources of Vitamin B12​

Vitamin B12 occurs naturally only in animal products (Miller, 2014). The following foods are good dietary sources of vitamin B12:

  • Mussels: 20.4 micrograms per 3-ounce serving
  • Clams: 84.1 micrograms per 3-ounce serving
  • Crab: 9.8 micrograms per 3-ounce serving'


8cb9b-aquaticapeocean.jpg


Got your B12 there. If not then eggs would be a good source for it or that's something we developed a need for only after cooked meat became incorporated into our diet.
Very fascinating but the aquatic ape theory is considered fringe in the same way of the theory that the Deccan traps eruptions and not the asteroid ended the dinsoaurs. There are also only a few vocal proponents of the aquatic ape theory like Elaine Morgan.

But some of the characteristics in this theory have been explained in other ways. For example walking upright is said more to be because of hominids needing to see above tall grass in the African savannas.
There is also the idea that hair disappeared not because of ease in wading in water but because excess hair allows easier habitat for parasites and can serve as a breeding ground for disease from more easily stuck food particles and vegetation.
 
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Important from your wikipedia link:
"Unless pre-packaged, the German Lebensmittelhygiene-Verordnung ("food hygiene/health directive") permits mett to be sold only on the day of production."
Mett is also heavily salted which kills some of the beneficial bacteria, i don't think they're allowed to serve it unsalted but i could be wrong. I wouldn't eat it since i don't eat rock salt and bread.
 
Mett is also heavily salted which kills some of the beneficial bacteria, i don't think they're allowed to serve it unsalted but i could be wrong. I wouldn't eat it since i don't eat rock salt and bread.
Man unsalted and smoked meat isn't considered healthy and is said to be carcinogenic but it still does the job of filling you up and giving you necessary fat intake and oils ngl :feelsokman:
 
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Man unsalted and smoked meat isn't healthy and is said to be carcinogenic but it still does the job of filling you up and giving you necessary fat intake ngl :feelsokman:
Salt is not good for you, salt cravings can be a sign of a health problem like hyperthyroidism (common for foids) or mineral deficiencies. It's also linked to headaches. I used to eat alot of salt but since i quit eating it 2 years ago i never have any headaches nowadays. Here's a story about salt:

 
Salt is not good for you, salt cravings can be a sign of a health problem like hyperthyroidism (common for foids) or mineral deficiencies. It's also linked to headaches. I used to eat alot of salt but since i quit eating it 2 years ago i never have any headaches nowadays. Here's a story about salt:

The packaged and canned meats I were referring to aren't necessarily salted. Sometimes they are just immersed in oils. Smoked and salted meat is of course not that good for you.

Didn't know salt was linked to headaches. Too much of anything isn't good but imo consuming table salt by itself isn't bad as long as it is within the dietary recommendations.
 
DONT EAT THE PIG!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :feelsree: :feelsree: :feelsree: :feelsree: :feelsree:
 
Nigga never eat raw omniore/carnivore meat or u’ll get parasites
 
Very fascinating but the aquatic ape theory is considered fringe in the same way of the theory that the Deccan traps eruptions and not the asteroid ended the dinsoaurs. There are also only a few vocal proponents of the aquatic ape theory like Elaine Morgan.

But some of the characteristics in this theory have been explained in other ways. For example walking upright is said more to be because of hominids needing to see above tall grass in the African savannas.
There is also the idea that hair disappeared not because of ease in wading in water but because excess hair allows easier habitat for parasites and can serve as a breeding ground for disease from more easily stuck food particles and vegetation.

There are some interesting notable physical differences between humans and other apes we could have ended up looking like my avi there but with a bigger brain. Many of physical traits we have that are distinct from other apes may have been useful in a semi-aquatic lifestyle. An example there is head hair was useful for blocking sunlight in tropical waters and we get greasy hair for waterproofing. We have earwax to prevent water entering the ears and so on. So definitely our ancestors could have lived on the coast and they swam around foraging what they could find on the shore. That seems like something could have happened.

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Also notice how humans are drawn to beaches and the sea? Very keen on getting in there, there are other ways of staying cool and other sources of water but we seem to like the sea. A chimpanzee or a gorilla wouldn't enjoy being there for sure, no trees anywhere to seen.


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waterbirth


Water births are easier for women and babies born in water swim instinctively upwards and hold their breath. That could easily be the an aquatic adaptation. A chimp born in water would probably just sink and drown.
 
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Well that's one way to cure your inceldom.
 
There are some interesting notable physical differences between humans and other apes we could have ended up looking like my avi there but with a bigger brain. Many of physical traits we have that are distinct from other apes may have been useful in a semi-aquatic lifestyle. An example there is head hair was useful for blocking sunlight in tropical waters and we get greasy hair for waterproofing. We have earwax to prevent water entering the ears and so on. So definitely our ancestors could have lived on the coast and they swam around foraging what they could find on the shore. That seems like something could have happened.

Human_Aquatic_Adaptations.png


Also notice how humans are drawn to beaches and the sea? Very keen on getting in there, there are other ways of staying cool and other sources of water but we seem to like the sea. A chimpanzee or a gorilla wouldn't enjoy being there for sure, no trees anywhere to seen.


NINTCHDBPICT000591148254.jpg



waterbirth


Water births are easier for women and babies born in water swim instinctively upwards and hold their breath. That could easily be the an aquatic adaptation. A chimp born in water would probably just sink and drown.
Even if that was true it probably wasn't a very deep setting of water. More of a shallow lake setting where you waded through to find extra food. Such shallow lakes exist in the savannas of Africa during the rainy season.

Also many humans aren't good at swimming and any ingestion of water into the lungs can result in suffocation and death. Imo this goes against the idea that humans are natural adept in water or at least deeper water settings like seas and oceans.
 

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