Discussion To those who are real incels (Truecels) who do you blame for your subhumanity?

[Blackpincel]

No surgery managed to fully fix my father-inherited bulbous nose, fivehead, shortness, ugly teeth, fallen eyes and shit genes for fitness.

Online social media was not a thing at the time my parents met, so it was not uncommon for a subhuman to date a stacy especially in the third-world.

PS: If you blame yourself for being incel, you are not a real incel.

 

[BataviaCel]

fuck my father for not blasting hgh when i was a teen

 

[subhuman]

I mostly blame society for placing a premium on looks and status and commodifying people. But also I blame the human condition itself. I don't believe in utopianism, people are always going to exploit each other and commit atrocities.

 

[Blackpincel]

fuck my father for not blasting hgh when i was a teen

In my teens, I also asked for HGH treatment, which was unsurprisingly denied by my parents. I grew up to not be a gigamanlet, but my teenage years were painful.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

My parents especially. I always asking them to allow me to join gym but they always deny

 

[Blackpincel]

I mostly blame society for placing a premium on looks and status and commodifying people. But also I blame the human condition itself. I don't believe in utopianism, people are always going to exploit each other and commit atrocities.

If both your parents were good looking and you were born good looking with pretty privilege, you wouldn't be condemning "society".

 

[Blackpincel]

My parents especially. I always asking them to allow me to join gym but they always deny

There is no gym for your genes (face/phenotype).
You either are not subhuman, or you absolutely are.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

There is no gym for your genes (face/phenotype).
You either are not subhuman, or you absolutely are.

I am subhuman

 

[subhuman]

If both your parents were good looking and you were born good looking with pretty privilege, you wouldn't be condemning "society".

what is good looking or not is determined by the sexual market, just like the price of a commodity. therefore, i think labels like good looking are imposed on us by other people, who I resent for commodifying and determining my life. being ugly is part of a larger societal issue

 

[hartz4cel]

No surgery managed to fully fix my father-inherited bulbous nose, fivehead, shortness, ugly teeth, fallen eyes and shit genes for fitness.

Online social media was not a thing at the time my parents met, so it was not uncommon for a subhuman to date a stacy especially in the third-world.

PS: If you blame yourself for being incel, you are not a real incel.

I blame only foids

 

[Blackpincel]

I am subhuman

No gymmaxing is going to help you not being one

t. gymmaxed up to 2 years ago (never roided though, another normie myth ("don't do roids!" ) falls down)

what is good looking or not is determined by the sexual market, just like the price of a commodity. therefore, i think labels like good looking are imposed on us by other people, who I resent for commodifying and determining my life. being ugly is part of a larger societal issue

Don't lie: you would like to be the one mogging everyone and securing stacies all for yourself, or at least not being victim of inceldom because you mog other guys. Society is not to blame here

 

[Blackpincel]

I blame only foids

You would not go for bottom of the barrel women either if you were on top.

Women by default are on top because most men have no standards. So in a way, you have to blame simp men themselves for enabling hypergamic behavior.

In any case, you would not be victim of inceldom if it wasn't for your face not looking good enough. (I agree the standards are way higher for men than it is for women, though)

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

None of the above.

I’m a case of the genetic recombination pill

 

[SerbBurekConsoomer]

75% conditions in which I was born and raised (mother was under stress while she caried me, small gap between me and my sibling, also I ate lots of canned food, beating and abuse made me low test...)
25% genetics (my siblings are taller than me, so inherited genetics didn't play big role in this, but it had an impact)
I could be wrong, I could be right. Who knows?
Only thing I can say for sure is that abortion was the best option for my mother.

 

[subhuman]

Don't lie: you would like to be the one mogging everyone and securing stacies all for yourself, or at least not being victim of inceldom because you mog other guys. Society is not to blame here

I think this is evidence that society is to blame. That sexuality is a system of social hierarchy where it’s mogged or get mogged. You have just implicated society by focusing on other people.

 

[Blackpincel]

I think this is evidence that society is to blame. That sexuality is a system of social hierarchy where it’s mogged or get mogged. You have just implicated society by focusing on other people.

I would not give a single fuck about how society is unfair to ugly men or treats them bad if I wasn't an ugly man myself, as I am not an hypocrite and I realize the system would benefit me. So, whatever.

None of the above.

I’m a case of the genetic recombination pill

if you were born out of parents who are at least normie-looking, either you are a fakecel (mentalcel), or you overrate your parents, or a rare case of ugly man born from non-ugly parents

75% conditions in which I was born and raised (mother was under stress while she caried me, small gap between me and my sibling, also I ate lots of canned food, beating and abuse made me low test...)
25% genetics (my siblings are taller than me, so inherited genetics didn't play big role in this, but it had an impact)
I could be wrong, I could be right. Who knows?
Only thing I can say for sure is that abortion was the best option for my mother.

Upbringing and nutrition is cope

A lot of starving africans jaw-mog us

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

if you were born out of parents who are at least normie-looking, either you are a fakecel (mentalcel), or you overrate your parents, or a rare case of ugly man born from non-ugly parents

Recombination pill is that last point.,

 

[Twinkcel]

Why I can’t blame both ?

 

[ilieknothing]

I blame foids

 

[Blackpincel]

Why I can’t blame both ?

there should be an option to select both the parents. my baldness comes from my mother but my shortness is from father's side.

The reason I did not add it is because I figured most users would go for that (lol), so I set the poll in a way we could get more precise answers

 

[Blackpincel]

I blame foids

Women are to blame for hypergamy and having high standards, but they are not responsible for the fact you do not fit that standard (nor they set that standard by themselves, blame simps for that)

 

[ilieknothing]

Women are to blame for hypergamy and having high standards, but they are not responsible for the fact you do not fit that standard (nor they set that standard by themselves, blame simps for that)

They are to blame because they can choose not to follow that particular standard

 

[Blackpincel]

They are to blame because they can choose not to follow that particular standard

The same standard would benefit you, had you met it

It's a double-edged sword most of you fail to see

You guys strongly believe in the theory that 80% of women go for the 20% top of men, picture yourself as one of the top 20% of a minute and you will get what I am trying to say, you could have a lot more options than maybe (average) women themselves

 

[ilieknothing]

The same standard would benefit you, had you met it

It's a double-edged sword most of you fail to see

You guys strongly believe in the theory that 80% of women go for the 20% top of men, picture yourself as one of the top 20% of a minute and you will get what I am trying to say, you could have a lot more options than maybe (average) women themselves

I don’t care what would happen if I met the standard. I am incel due to the behaviour of foids and I will forever hate them for it

 

[Blackpincel]

I don’t care what would happen if I met the standard. I am incel due to the behaviour of foids and I will forever hate them for it

No, you are incel because you were not born physically attractive enough

(I agree the standards suck by the way and it is indeed higher for men)

But even though the standard exists, you would not be incel had you met the threshold

 

[ilieknothing]

No, you are incel because you were not born physically attractive enough

(I agree the standards suck by the way and it is indeed higher for men)

But even though the standard exists, you would not be incel had you met the threshold

No, I disagree. I do not accept that whatever foids determine is good is good. I am incel because foids are not attracted to my looks and as a result I hate them

 

[Blackpincel]

No, I disagree. I do not accept that whatever foids determine is good is good. I am incel because foids are not attracted to my looks and as a result I hate them

I never said the standards are good or that I agree with women having it. In fact, actually, my thoughts/opinions on it do not matter at all. The fact is that if we all looked about the same and personality actually mattered, inceldom wouldn't be that much of a problem

I don't blame women because I too would love to be in the top 20% and I would trade my soul to the hellishest of the demons over it (mogging other men)

But since the situtation does not work to my own benefit, it's only natural to hate the standards

 

[ilieknothing]

I never said the standards are good or that I agree with women having it. In fact, actually, my thoughts/opinions on it do not matter at all. The fact is that if we all looked about the same and personality actually mattered, inceldom wouldn't be that much of a problem

I don't blame women because I too would love to be in the top 20% and I would trade my soul to the hellishest of the demons over it (mogging other men)

You might not blame foids but I do. If I was a Chad I would hate foids for what they are doing to incels

 

[Blackpincel]

You might not blame foids but I do. If I was a Chad I would hate foids for what they are doing to incels

Hahahahaha good one

If you were a Chad, you would most likely never give a single fuck about incels or what they think, at best you would get an incel friend telling these things to you, you would think "damn women are shallow! poor guys", then looking at the screen of your phone and accepting Becky's invite to fuck her in her place afterwards as if nothing happened

 

[ilieknothing]

Hahahahaha good one

If you were a Chad, would most likely never give a single fuck about incels or what they think, at best you would get an incel friend telling these things to you, you would think "damn women are shallow! poor guys", then looking at the screen of your phone and accepting Becky's invite to fuck her in her place afterwards as if nothing happened

Yes, you know better than me on how I would feel

 

[Blackpincel]

just be a cuck and subscribe to society theory

If subscribing to society actually got me laid, you can bet I would
But if I magically became a Chad i would not give a single fuck about how unfair life is to ugly men, I would actually be happy to feel privileged, that's how life works in every aspect, sorry to break this to you guys. It's a mog or be mogged world, I bet you wouldn't like to compete with other men for women and resources on equal grounds if you had the advantage.

Yes, you know better than me on how I would feel

You can bet I do, lol

 

[LeFrenchCel]

I mostly blame society for placing a premium on looks and status and commodifying people. But also I blame the human condition itself. I don't believe in utopianism, people are always going to exploit each other and commit atrocities.