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I gonna turn 19th now and i cant even imagine Living as a incel for several decades


Life must be hell for you guys

Im sorry :(
 
in 3 months I will be a 23 yo kv
 
25 here. At 19 I felt so young, god damn that's still baby territory (although it was over long, long before that).

My advice is stop using the PC and go do something irl, anything. Hell, public masturbation is more useful and productive than being on the PC all day. Don't be me dude, don't be me.
 
25 here. At 19 I felt so young, god damn that's still baby territory (although it was over long, long before that).

My advice is stop using the PC and go do something irl, anything. Hell, public masturbation is more useful and productive than being on the PC all day. Don't be me dude, don't be me.
Going out and doing something IRL will only frustrate me even more

It is OVER for us

I cant Change my Looks, i cant Change my traumatized brain, and my anxious personality
 
The power of having a little hobby has got me through.

29 years old. I'd very much rather be incel for all eternity than be a cuck.
 
Going out and doing something IRL will only frustrate me even more

It is OVER for us

I cant Change my Looks, i cant Change my traumatized brain, and my anxious personality
Yeah yeah I've got all those problems too. And I can't do anything about it either. And I've been rotting since a very young age without being able to overcome it too.

My point is: TRY. You're still very young, so try god damn it, with everything you have in you.

I know you won't, you know you won't. But maybe there's a small chance that you will. So that's why I'm telling you this.
 
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Yeah yeah I've got all those problems too. And I can't do anything about it either. And I've been rotting since a very young age without being able to over come it too.

My point is: TRY. You're still very young, so try god damn it, with all you have in you.

I know you won't, you know you won't. But maybe there's a small chance that you will. So that's why I'm telling you this.

Well said. The OP is like a child compared to us both!
 
32 KV, I highly dislike going outside. If I didn't have the pc I don't know what I'd do as an introvert TBF. If you actually enjoy being around other ppl then go out as much as you can otherwise fageddaboutit.
 
Yeah yeah I've got all those problems too. And I can't do anything about it either. And I've been rotting since a very young age without being able to over come it too.

My point is: TRY. You're still very young, so try god damn it, with all you have in you.

I know you won't, you know you won't. But maybe there's a small chance that you will. So that's why I'm telling you this.
Dude it is over

I can try it a 100 times and i fail 100 times

incureable sexual Frustration, hypogonadism, These Things are a death sentence
 
Dude it is over

I can try it a 100 times and i fail 100 times

incureable sexual Frustration, hypogonadism, These Things are a death sentence
:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
Yeah yeah I've got all those problems too. And I can't do anything about it either. And I've been rotting since a very young age without being able to over come it too.

My point is: TRY. You're still very young, so try god damn it, with all you have in you.

I know you won't, you know you won't. But maybe there's a small chance that you will. So that's why I'm telling you this.
No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.

People deny it when talking to incels, but otherwise they always say stuff like "Family is everything" or "Your true wealth is found in your wife/children" or "Family is what makes life worthwhile". It's all true, at least for a man like me. Even raising my animals is just a shitty cope. Money, professional status, expensive crap..... It's completely meaningless without a family to share it with.

So why work so hard for something that will never benefit you?
 
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25 here. At 19 I felt so young, god damn that's still baby territory (although it was over long, long before that).

My advice is stop using the PC and go do something irl, anything. Hell, public masturbation is more useful and productive than being on the PC all day. Don't be me dude, don't be me.

This. I'm early 30s.
 
I gonna turn 19th now and i cant even imagine Living as a incel for several decades


Life must be hell for you guys

Im sorry :(
tfw when 29 next year :(
 
No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.


But if you Career max you can get surgery????

I mean, it is hard to ascend if youre short, but it is possible

Today you can even Augment your Frame etc.
 
25 here. At 19 I felt so young, god damn that's still baby territory (although it was over long, long before that).

My advice is stop using the PC and go do something irl, anything. Hell, public masturbation is more useful and productive than being on the PC all day. Don't be me dude, don't be me.
tbh im 28 now and tried all my life to improve until i recently gave up. I have no friends or girlfriend and in general i can't connect or relate to other people. If i decide to go outside im always by myself and be like "Now what?". Of course you can do things alone but that gets old pretty fast and going alone as a friendless loser to a club, disco or bar etc. is a hopeless endeavor.
 
No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.
I understand your point of view, and I do agree with you. But on the other hand, I did the exact opposite. I fucked my life up, I'm an utter failure working a shitty full-time job for measly money (part-time doesn't pay enough in my country) with no prospects. I'm looking at a life of living paycheck to paycheck, and it's not something I'd recommend.
 
But if you Career max you can get surgery????

I mean, it is hard to ascend if youre short, but it is possible

Today you can even Augment your Frame etc.
And how old do you think you will be before you can get that surgery? You have student loans, mortgage payment, car payment, ect. At a minimum. If my parent hadn't become terminally ill I still would have been in my early 30s before I earned enough to afford that.

And surgerymaxxing is barely better than being a cuck. Why should I, or anyone, have to undergo such expensive and painful procedures just to meet the minimum standards of foids? At that point you might as well live off prostitutes or rope.
 
And how old do you think you will be before you can get that surgery? You have student loans, mortgage payment, car payment, ect. At a minimum. If my parent hadn't become terminally ill I still would have been in my early 30s before I earned enough to afford that.

And surgerymaxxing is barely better than being a cuck. Why should I, or anyone, have to undergo such expensive and painful procedures just to meet the minimum standards of foids? At that point you might as well live off prostitutes or rope.
surgerymaxxing is only for richcels
 
I understand your point of view, and I do agree with you. But on the other hand, I did the exact opposite. I fucked my life up, I'm an utter failure working a shitty full-time job for measly money (part-time doesn't pay enough in my country) with no prospects. I'm looking at a life of living paycheck to paycheck, and it's not something I'd recommend.
And what would you do if you had money? Would buying a bunch of crap make you happy? I mean it's rare but every now and then you can find a good cope that may last a week or two, but even then that sucks because you have nobody special to share the experience with.

If I am being totally honest the funnest thing I have found to do with my money is gamble it on stocks, but even that lost its appeal after a couple months.

I guess the main point I am trying to make is that unless you have a family to support, your time is far more valuable than money. Wasting it working to serve people who otherwise shit all over you won't make you happy.
 
No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.

People deny it when talking to incels, but otherwise they always say stuff like "Family is everything" or "Your true wealth is found in your wife/children" or "Family is what makes life worthwhile". It's all true, at least for a man like me. Even raising my animals is just a shitty cope. Money, professional status, expensive crap..... It's completely meaningless without a family to share it with.

So why work so hard for something that will never benefit you?

So..... i guess my life is completely ok after all.... thanks :feelsohh:
 
And what would you do if you had money? Would buying a bunch of crap make you happy? I mean it's rare but every now and then you can find a good cope that may last a week or two, but even then that sucks because you have nobody special to share the experience with.

If I am being totally honest the funnest thing I have found to do with my money is gamble it on stocks, but even that lost its appeal after a couple months.

I guess the main point I am trying to make is that unless you have a family to support, your time is far more valuable than money. Wasting it working to serve people who otherwise shit all over you won't make you happy.
If I had a good enough job I'd be able to save up, maybe not have to slave away till I die. Also, I can't afford to not live with my parents, even with this job 8 hours a day 5 days a week. With some disposable income I'd be able to at least do something that costs money other than do things that are cheap. And, this is very stupid I know, I'd probably buy some drugs if I lived alone and could afford them tbh.
 
Turn 30 in December.
It never gets better.
 
36, became invested in the political and musical realms.
 
If I had a good enough job I'd be able to save up, maybe not have to slave away till I die. Also, I can't afford to not live with my parents, even with this job 8 hours a day 5 days a week. With some disposable income I'd be able to at least do something that costs money other than do things that are cheap. And, this is very stupid I know, I'd probably buy some drugs if I lived alone and could afford them tbh.

Well like I said, you need to earn enough for what you need. If you need those things, and a full time job is the only way you can get it, then that's what you should get. In my case, moving out from my parents house was a must (JFL at how that turned out, god sure loves fucking us over), but I don't need this house or everything else I got. Do what you need to do, but don't try to overachieve

I dont know where you live but I know men who stock grocery stores 20 hours a week and live off that, they are happier than I am because they have the freedom to cope with booze and drugs.
 
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No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.

People deny it when talking to incels, but otherwise they always say stuff like "Family is everything" or "Your true wealth is found in your wife/children" or "Family is what makes life worthwhile". It's all true, at least for a man like me. Even raising my animals is just a shitty cope. Money, professional status, expensive crap..... It's completely meaningless without a family to share it with.

So why work so hard for something that will never benefit you?
High quality post.
Just a suggestion, use that money in your bank for life-extension and genetic therapies once they become availabile in China. Just like stemcell treatment, in China you can buy your way to it without government interference (they will probably try to heavily regulate it in the West). This is my plan, I'm saving every penny I got for this.
 
High quality post.
Just a suggestion, use that money in your bank for life-extension and genetic therapies once they become availabile in China. Just like stemcell treatment, in China you can buy your way to it without government interference (they will probably try to heavily regulate it in the West). This is my plan, I'm saving every penny I got for this.

I'm too old for that. My endgame has always been a wife and children, but 40 is simply too old to be a good father. By the time they are 10 I would be in my 50s, and I wouldn't be able to do all the things a good father should like proper discipline, playing sports with them, taking them out, teaching them mechanical/woodworking skills, ect. And JFL at a mid 50s guy trying to teach a teen to drive, and having to work through my 60s to pay for their college.

Unless I can somehow de-age it's simply too late for me.
 
I'm too old for that. My endgame has always been a wife and children, but 40 is simply too old to be a good father. By the time they are 10 I would be in my 50s, and I wouldn't be able to do all the things a good father should like proper discipline, playing sports with them, taking them out, teaching them mechanical/woodworking skills, ect. And JFL at a mid 50s guy trying to teach a teen to drive, and having to work through my 60s to pay for their college.

Unless I can somehow de-age it's simply too late for me.
I fear by the time genetic engineering and anti-aging is advanced enough you'll be 80 and I'll be 60 (in 40 years time).

Theoretically, because 25 is the age you stop developing and you start to degenerate, anti-aging therapies will be able to restore you to the biological (but obviously not chronological) age of 25.
 
I fear by the time genetic engineering and anti-aging is advanced enough you'll be 80 and I'll be 60 (in 40 years time).

Theoretically, because 25 is the age you stop developing and you start to degenerate, anti-aging therapies will be able to restore you to the biological (but obviously not chronological) age of 25.

I don't put much stock into advancements they claim are that far out. Less than 40 years ago the medical community was swearing cancer and Alzteimers would be cured by now, and even that DNA would be re-writable to cure all genetic disorders before birth. I also grew up hearing crap like we would have a colony on the moon and have men on Mars by now.

I believe most claims like that are little more than advertisements attempting to attract investors or whatever to help fund their research
 
your sex drive will thin out as you get older so im looking forward to that tbh
 
31, it's alright. I cope a lot.

Nah, 1 silicone face surgery = 10 prostitutes in my town.
My point was that unless you are already wealthy, or extremely good at what you do, you probably won't be able to afford that until you are too old for it to genuinely help you.
 
25 here. At 19 I felt so young, god damn that's still baby territory (although it was over long, long before that).

My advice is stop using the PC and go do something irl, anything. Hell, public masturbation is more useful and productive than being on the PC all day. Don't be me dude, don't be me.

34 here and 25 is the same.

Take your own advice, you have the best shot at ascending in late 20s, due to maturity, more masculine features and hopefully a better job.

It goes downhill quickly after 30, try to make something happen NOW.
 
Option 1) Work a shit job, save up for a facial surgery and then go to college. Best option unless you're really short, non-NT or truecel ugly.

2) Pick an incel friendly career like software development and spend a lot of time getting good at it. You're still not too old. But avoid it if your IQ is below 105 or so. Then I recommend option 3 or 1.

3) Kill yourself or kill youERself. Suffering for years isn't worth it.

Any of these are fine. Don't become a NEET, it doesn't work in the long run unless you get autismbuxx.
 
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I don't put much stock into advancements they claim are that far out. Less than 40 years ago the medical community was swearing cancer and Alzteimers would be cured by now, and even that DNA would be re-writable to cure all genetic disorders before birth. I also grew up hearing crap like we would have a colony on the moon and have men on Mars by now.

I believe most claims like that are little more than advertisements attempting to attract investors or whatever to help fund their research
You are right with those predictions being wrong. I've read about them as well.

Still I think it's wise to save up for the moment should it happen. Actually, it's already possible to cure some genetic diseases with genetic therapy. The issue as I discussed in my other thread is that current technology is not sophisticated enough to fix large mutations (due to the payload of repair base pairs being small) and also them not affecting brain tissue.

James Watson who discovered the DNA said in this year not long ago that in 1-2 decades major diseases will be cured with genetic engineering. 1-2 decades is 10-20 years.
I think James Watson knows what he's talking about.
 
Just fucking lol at oldcels telling us to hurry up and do stuff,do you really think I can quickly fix and patch up everything after a whole life of suffering,rejections and a growing hate to this society,a hate that is just too big and complex to magically remove it just to fit in? Experience and age would make one think that you people knew better but you seem to be as ignorant as an 18 year old.
 
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No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.

People deny it when talking to incels, but otherwise they always say stuff like "Family is everything" or "Your true wealth is found in your wife/children" or "Family is what makes life worthwhile". It's all true, at least for a man like me. Even raising my animals is just a shitty cope. Money, professional status, expensive crap..... It's completely meaningless without a family to share it with.

So why work so hard for something that will never benefit you?
Holy fuck man, you just described me, except I didn't start getting my shit together until later in the game. I am like you home, car, profession, late 30s and an incel.
I guess I will have some blackpill with my lunch now.
 
Just fucking lol at oldcels telling us to hurry up and do stuff,do you really think I can quickly fix and patch up everything after a whole life of suffering,rejections and a growing hate to this society,a hate that is just too big and complex to magically remove it just to fit in? Experience and age would make one think that you people knew better but you seem to be as ignorant as an 18 year old.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying make money at least, it makes everything better. Stay healthy and fit, it also makes everything better.

There's nothing worse than being poor in bad health as you age.
 
Just fucking lol at oldcels telling us to hurry up and do stuff,do you really think I can quickly fix and patch up everything after a whole life of suffering,rejections and a growing hate to this society,a hate that is just too big and complex to magically remove it just to fit in? Experience and age would make one think that you people knew better but you seem to be as ignorant as an 18 year old.
Just telling you to do something before you experience 10+ more years of suffering. I also recommend suicide but not to cope with "I'll kill myself soon so I'll just LDAR until then". Because you probably won't, especially if you're not a USAcel with a gun.
 
No, this is horrible advice to give any trucel.

I am nearly 40 and aside from the fact that I was too ugly/short to have a family, my biggest regrets is that I tried. I went out, earned a degree, became a licensed professional, continued to advance and earn money, ect....... I worked out, I dieted, I forced myself to invest countless hours into being social, trying online dating, talking to any woman who would give me the time of day, ect. It was all a waste of time. The money sits in a bank or in stocks doing nothing. The house I have is nice, but I don't even use half the rooms. I don't even work THAT much compared to most other professionals but I still work too much considering I don't need most of what I earn. And all of that socializing got me nothing but a few "friends" who use me like a betabuxxing whore or as a tool to try to meet women.

My advice to any youngcels is to accept that it's over. Do what you need to do for yourself to get by. If you truly need a fancy car and big house to be happy then careermax, but most men don't. I would have been better off working a shitty part time job, living in a one bedroom apartment, coping with video games or TV or even drugs and booze. Instead I work for money I don't need to support a society that hates me. It's like a sick joke.

I guess this only applies if you know you are a trucel though, at 19 I was so niave I thought getting a good job would ensure that I could get at least a semi-decent wife, and I didn't even think I was that ugly. But if I knew then what I know now I would have gladly joined the great decline, doing just enough to skirt by. I still wouldn't have been happy, but maybe I wouldn't be so miserable either.

People deny it when talking to incels, but otherwise they always say stuff like "Family is everything" or "Your true wealth is found in your wife/children" or "Family is what makes life worthwhile". It's all true, at least for a man like me. Even raising my animals is just a shitty cope. Money, professional status, expensive crap..... It's completely meaningless without a family to share it with.

So why work so hard for something that will never benefit you?
Quality post that I entirely agree with.

Young'uns, do not fall for the meme that you should be hardworking, etc...

Do what you need to do, nothing more. Nobody cares about you, because you're ugly.
 
You are right with those predictions being wrong. I've read about them as well.

Still I think it's wise to save up for the moment should it happen. Actually, it's already possible to cure some genetic diseases with genetic therapy. The issue as I discussed in my other thread is that current technology is not sophisticated enough to fix large mutations (due to the payload of repair base pairs being small) and also them not affecting brain tissue.

James Watson who discovered the DNA said in this year not long ago that in 1-2 decades major diseases will be cured with genetic engineering. 1-2 decades is 10-20 years.
I think James Watson knows what he's talking about.
He doesn't. James Watson has no way to predict the technological advancements/slowdowns or economic factors that go into making this possible, to say nothing of every other factor that could influence a breakthrough of that nature.
That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying make money at least, it makes everything better. Stay healthy and fit, it also makes everything better.

There's nothing worse than being poor in bad health as you age.
I disagree. The last thing I want is to extend my life even longer, so poor health would be a blessing. I regret focusing so much on fitness when I was younger, because now I am ready to die but don't wanna rope for several reasons and so now death is as far away as ever.
 
to say nothing of every other factor that could influence a breakthrough of that nature.
I know just which factor might slow down technological and other advancements...
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I gonna turn 19th now and i cant even imagine Living as a incel for several decades


Life must be hell for you guys

Im sorry :(
Yeah. It is. THANKS . Im 50.
 
21 and I can't bear the though of getting older fuck, oldcels what age did your old age really hit home that u were fucked?
Not asking what age you figured out you were incel, I'm asking you what age you realized even if you did ascend it was already over.
 
Im 16 atm, I cant imagine living another 20 years like this. If i was tall enough i would looksmax and try and ascend. My only option is to wait until i am 18 and fuck some escorts.
 
21 and I can't bear the though of getting older fuck, oldcels what age did your old age really hit home that u were fucked?
Not asking what age you figured out you were incel, I'm asking you what age you realized even if you did ascend it was already over.
26 for me, the realization came later for me than most here. I still had that faint hope for a few years that slaving and saving money would change things. Lolol.

I'm not all doom and gloom, though. I advise all males to try being as social as much until at least your freshman year of uni. Don't give up until all socially acceptable milestones pass, and you truly know you're ugly and undesirable. That's when you instantly have to stop listening to the normalfags that rejected you.
 
I gonna turn 19th now and i cant even imagine Living as a incel for several decades


Life must be hell for you guys

Im sorry :(
43 here.
A lot of work, military, hobbies, sextourismceling with young ukrainian stacies (for money), seing all of those chads getting divorce-raped. Life is good.
 
30 here. Never felt as bad as nowadays tbh.
 
Yeah yeah I've got all those problems too. And I can't do anything about it either. And I've been rotting since a very young age without being able to overcome it too.

My point is: TRY. You're still very young, so try god damn it, with everything you have in you.

I know you won't, you know you won't. But maybe there's a small chance that you will. So that's why I'm telling you this.

Personally, I agree with this whole-heartedly. The reason that I've been able to reach my late 40s with no female contact in decades and only a handful of friends without killing myself is because I have other things that give me some pleasure. I actually kinda like my job. It's often a pain in the ass, but it's something to do, I get a sense of accomplishment here and there, and most importantly, I earn enough to have an apartment and to purchase things I enjoy. If you're just going to give up on all elements of life, then yeah, eat a bullet because otherwise you have nothing but misery ahead. But life is fucking long and I just couldn't handle dwelling solely on my unlucky lot in life for 40+ years.
 

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