SuicideFuel Thoughts on rope. Helplessness and bad situations.

[HateCurry]

You know guys some guys just weren't given a choice, that's really, that really describes me. I don't think I would have been incel, as in coming here, if I had a good family. I'm not a normie, people call them failed but I don't think so... failure is just a sign there's something wrong with you and you need to change it. My whole situation is fucked up I'm some age and my whole family always turn on me and spy on me, it's not that intense now but my father's outside the room talking to his colleagues loudly while I hear him and feel his presence constantly and I know they have all the power in the household, I know I wouldn't be able to do shit if they talk things away from me, had they discovered me on this incel forum. Being ugly is one thing, there are incels all the world but when you don't get to express your voice and verbal skills either, when you yelled at for nothing, that's when you really think about rope, it's when you know you're in a HORRIBLE situation and you're HELPLESS.

 

[HedonisticRecluse]

A lot of the suffering incels grieve over are things like being socially accepted by your peers, romance and these feelings of desire ultimately lead to suffering. So what is the solution to something you cannot attain? Well let's rationally analyze these things you want. Love itself is superficial, based on immutable traits and devoid of any reason. Women don't choose abusive sexually dimorphic who are have criminal inclinations because of their personality, it is primarily due to them wanting to pass those genes on and settle with a man with resources - this itself is the epitome of shallow. Love is similar to shitting, an urge driven by the need to get rid of waste. Love is the same thing, an illusion. Happiness is just the repetition of pleasure, if you want happiness do things that you like and work towards long term goals. Love is like the high from a drug, you feel high for a while then when your partner cheats, grows old and ugly or leaves you then the 'come down' from this high is misery.

 

[HateCurry]

A lot of the suffering incels grieve over are things like being socially accepted by your peers, romance and these feelings of desire ultimately lead to suffering. So what is the solution to something you cannot attain? Well let's rationally analyze these things you want. Love itself is superficial, based on immutable traits and devoid of any reason. Women don't choose abusive sexually dimorphic who are have criminal inclinations because of their personality, it is primarily due to them wanting to pass those genes on and settle with a man with resources - this itself is the epitome of shallow. Love is similar to shitting, an urge driven by the need to get rid of waste. Love is the same thing, an illusion. Happiness is just the repetition of pleasure, if you want happiness do things that you like and work towards long term goals. Love is like the high from a drug, you feel high for a while then when your partner cheats, grows old and ugly or leaves you then the 'come down' from this high is misery.

I've heard of this a thousand times, doesn't mean it's useless advice. The phrase ignorance is bliss is very real, when you know the meaning of certain words you assert value to them. My mom just said she don't wanna see my face, she'd be happy if I stay in my room, tough shit, but if didn't know my home language I wouldn't have felt bad.

 

[HedonisticRecluse]

I've heard of this a thousand times, doesn't mean it's useless advice. The phrase ignorance is bliss is very real, when you know the meaning of certain words you assert value to them. My mom just said she don't wanna see my face, she'd be happy if I stay in my room, tough shit, but if didn't know my home language I wouldn't have felt bad.

It's not that ignorance is bliss in this situation, it is actually advantageous to know the truth. If love is an illusion why care about it, that is my question. Why does your mother dislike you, are you sure you care about what she wants more then what you want? What other ways do you suffer in life. Ultimately things do get better if you think logically and attain pleasure in non hedonistic means. For me happiness is satisfaction, it isn't anything else but the abscence of pain.

 

[HateCurry]

It's not that ignorance is bliss in this situation, it is actually advantageous to know the truth. If love is an illusion why care about it, that is my question. Why does your mother dislike you, are you sure you care about what she wants more then what you want? What other ways do you suffer in life. Ultimately things do get better if you think logically and attain pleasure in non hedonistic means. For me happiness is satisfaction, it isn't anything else but the abscence of pain.

It's all knowledge dude. The fact that I know that I can't do nothing in this situation, is what makes it worse for me. Knowledge is a fucker.

 

[HateCurry]

For me happiness is satisfaction, it isn't anything else but the abscence of pain.

I object, I don't think you've been confronted as harshly as often as I have been confronted with this hatred, once you know your mother hates you and then you know you can't do anything to change it, then you're on a miserable path. Again, knowledge is the key to making anyone angry.

 

[HedonisticRecluse]

I object, I don't think you've been confronted as harshly as often as I have been confronted with this hatred, once you know your mother hates you and then you know you can't do anything to change it, then you're on a miserable path. Again, knowledge is the key to making anyone angry.

Your still in the depression stage, can you tell me anything about your situation