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Thoughts on antinatalism?

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I think it makes sense. Nobody can consent to being born (consent isn't possible in the first place, that's my point). If I knew I'd be so strange-looking that I can't go outside or sit outside without hearing someone make a snarky/mean.comment about me to another person, I wouldn't have said yes. The world is overcrowded: so much traffic, new buildings, etc. Not being born will always = no potential suffering for that person.
 
I think it makes sense. Nobody can consent to being born (consent isn't possible in the first place, that's my point). If I knew I'd be so strange-looking that I can't go outside or sit outside without hearing someone make a snarky/mean.comment about me to another person, I wouldn't have said yes. The world is overcrowded: so much traffic, new buildings, etc. Not being born will always = no potential suffering for that person.
I like him, but only in the context of the current time period and the world order that the elites and Klaus Schwab in particular are preparing for us.
 
It's a based take. Life sucks and will continue to suck, world's infrastructure is becoming more and more anti human. I would never bring a kid to this world (if I was normie or chad and could actually have kids)
 
It's a based take. Life sucks and will continue to suck, world's infrastructure is becoming more and more anti human. I would never bring a kid to this world (if I was normie or chad and could actually have kids)
Yes, the new world will look like a mix of Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World.
 
I'm just waiting for bezos to make a rapture city or new eden
But it will only be for the elite. I also remember how the rich hid in their mansions from covid in 2020 or how the rich bought up nuclear bunkers during 2022, when there was a risk that the war in Ukraine would become nuclear.
 
But it will only be for the elite. I also remember how the rich hid in their mansions from covid in 2020 or how the rich bought up nuclear bunkers during 2022, when there was a risk that the war in Ukraine would become nuclear.
Yeah... a man can pray tho :feelsautistic:
 
Should be atleast practiced by genetically inferior people.
 
People should have children
 
It makes sense to do this if you live within a bad society
People still shouldn't be forced to have children though
 
Tbh I don't really care on a societal level but on an individual level yes
 
I believe in parenting licenses at bare minimum
 
I think it makes sense. Nobody can consent to being born (consent isn't possible in the first place, that's my point). If I knew I'd be so strange-looking that I can't go outside or sit outside without hearing someone make a snarky/mean.comment about me to another person, I wouldn't have said yes. The world is overcrowded: so much traffic, new buildings, etc. Not being born will always = no potential suffering for that person.
Rather nobody can consent to be. You start existing in that body when it develops enough to support a person.
 
It's a based take. Life sucks and will continue to suck, world's infrastructure is becoming more and more anti human. I would never bring a kid to this world (if I was normie or chad and could actually have kids)
if you're a CHAD it doesnt make sense not to reproduce. Your CHAD son will benefit from the subhuman workers without having to put any effort, he will get female affection and will end up just as successful as yourself.
 
I'm not sure about anti natalism. I am for a breeding licence, but to be an antinatalist we should ensure first that most people feel like us (would prefer to have never existed). If not, we should let certain people selected for their physical and intelectual quality reproduce and allow every subhumans (genetic recombnation will always create them) to suicide in painless and peacfull methods if they want to. If they don't want they should be allowed to have a house and a salary without working in an attempt to compensates nature's mistakes.
 
i don't think it's a matter of who does and doesn't want to be born. If my SMV was better I would have wanted to be born. Humans are biased, stupid, and they believe life is a blessing as long as they themselves are happy. They don't just 'believe' it in name but they literally believe in arguments as to why that they would not think are true if they weren't happy. That is really biased, and is why I think we deserve to be extinct. They believe things like 'sure 90% of humans are poor overworked unsatisfied degenerates but that dont matter life is good be grateful to be alive :soy:'. But that is literally based on their own being happy, not the state of the world itself, let alone if it is rightful. So that is not why I am antinatalist. People who like life aren't and people who don't, are, that is biased as FUCK.
I am for anti natalism because I think 'life' as in all living matter, is evil. Fundamentally, all life forms crave to be alive. If a plant does not grow towards the sun it does not make it through that round of natural selection. So all plants do. Life forms are inherently copey. Humans acted extremely copey right up until the 21st century where we are now aware of what copey means and so try to avoid being it, which is a cope. I hate what makes humans human and what makes life life. If I had a button that turned the planet desolate I'd press it immediately
if you're a CHAD it doesnt make sense not to reproduce. Your CHAD son will benefit from the subhuman workers without having to put any effort, he will get female affection and will end up just as successful as yourself.
see this is bias. Life forms want to life. Really it does not matter what his son will do. Antinatalism is an argument and he should have a belief on principle, is it right or not. But we aren't capable of this. The idea is just 'if he will be happy then it makes no sense to be anti natalist'. Humans are not really capable of considering the point of the argument or the ethics. 99.9999% just go off of 'i am happy so breeding is a noble thing or i am not happy so it is not' and the only argument ever given for why is 'happy = good i am not happy so i am antinatalist'. It should be based on principle, if we were not evil creatures
 
I think it makes sense. Nobody can consent to being born (consent isn't possible in the first place, that's my point). If I knew I'd be so strange-looking that I can't go outside or sit outside without hearing someone make a snarky/mean.comment about me to another person, I wouldn't have said yes. The world is overcrowded: so much traffic, new buildings, etc. Not being born will always = no potential suffering for that person.
>>>> https://incels.is/threads/svgmn1s-cope-review-issue-1-antinatalism.414069/
 
I think it makes sense. Nobody can consent to being born (consent isn't possible in the first place, that's my point).
The consent argument doesn't hold water, because it's like saying, "supporting/opposing the natural rights of the non-existent people." It's not a cogent position.

If I knew I'd be so strange-looking that I can't go outside or sit outside without hearing someone make a snarky/mean.comment about me to another person, I wouldn't have said yes.
You weren't there then to say yes, but you're here now to say no i.e., suicide. I'm not saying you should kys to be rationally consistent (you would be in that case), but you're in the converse position now.

The world is overcrowded: so much traffic, new buildings, etc. Not being born will always = no potential suffering for that person.
This is strictly untrue. Cities are overcrowded, but in terms of livable landmass, we're covering a very tiny part of the whole planet.
 
The consent argument doesn't hold water, because it's like saying, "supporting/opposing the natural rights of the non-existent people." It's not a cogent position.


You weren't there then to say yes, but you're here now to say no i.e., suicide. I'm not saying you should kys to be rationally consistent (you would be in that case), but you're in the converse position now.


This is strictly untrue. Cities are overcrowded, but in terms of livable landmass, we're covering a very tiny part of the whole planet.
Isn't this kind of similar to the most common argument against nationalism? "It is pure coincidence where you were born" Both assume that we are floating as souls in some kind of sphere until we are randomly inserted into human bodies.
 
Made my sister afraid of me by sending her the link to the Wikipedia page for it. That's all it took. Yeah she's a bitch.
 
It's bad. The whole point of life is to continue your bloodline.
We should focus on fixing the REAL issues such as foids only fucking gigachads and so on.
Give me dictatorial power for 6 months to 1 year and I CAN do it.
 
Isn't this kind of similar to the most common argument against nationalism? "It is pure coincidence where you were born" Both assume that we are floating as souls in some kind of sphere until we are randomly inserted into human bodies.
I'm not sure I follow you. Please elaborate.
 
I'm very good at enforcing all the concepts of antinatalism in my life
 
being antinatalist is relative to the cards you were dealt in life. I bet nobody who’s genuinely happy and has good genetics would be antinatalist. He or she would want to spread the good genes for the next generations to enjoy especially if they have generational wealth
 
I think it makes sense. Nobody can consent to being born (consent isn't possible in the first place, that's my point). If I knew I'd be so strange-looking that I can't go outside or sit outside without hearing someone make a snarky/mean.comment about me to another person, I wouldn't have said yes. The world is overcrowded: so much traffic, new buildings, etc. Not being born will always = no potential suffering for that person.
I like it but I don't fully support it. Life wouldn't be so bad if foids and niggers didn't exist.
 
Suicide should be legal.
 
I'm not sure I follow you. Please elaborate.
Anti-nationalist argument: Nationalism (putting your people first)is nonsense because we are all born in our nation and race by chance.

Nationalist argument: It is a basic prerequisite for the existence of chance that there are several options.
But there was no option to be born a Frenchman instead of (for example) an Indian.

The thesis that one could become a Frenchman instead of Indian by chance suggests that we all float as souls in the "pre-life" until someone takes us, throws us into a "birth lottery" and from there we are born in a nation/people by chance.
That's also why you can't say you were born "against your will", as we had no will (or anything at all, as we didn't exist) before we were born.
 
Antinatalism is cucked and usually supported by Rich-Chad only.
 
Anti-nationalist argument: Nationalism (putting your people first)is nonsense because we are all born in our nation and race by chance.

Nationalist argument: It is a basic prerequisite for the existence of chance that there are several options.
But there was no option to be born a Frenchman instead of (for example) an Indian.

The thesis that one could become a Frenchman instead of Indian by chance suggests that we all float as souls in the "pre-life" until someone takes us, throws us into a "birth lottery" and from there we are born in a nation/people by chance.
That's also why you can't say you were born "against your will", as we had no will (or anything at all, as we didn't exist) before we were born.
N A T A L I S M
Not nationalism. JFL
 
my first comment literally starts with "Isn't this kind of similar to the most common argument against nationalism?"
And the answer is, "no, it isn't." I said three different things in my earlier post you quoted and none of them are even tangential to what you're saying in regards to circumstances of birth.
 
And the answer is, "no, it isn't." I said three different things in my earlier post you quoted and none of them are even tangential to what you're saying in regards to circumstances of birth.
You can clearly see that I was making a fitting comparison, not misunderstanding the topic.
 
You can clearly see that I was making a fitting comparison, not misunderstanding the topic.
My response to OP's consent argument is not analogous or related to your point about not choosing which country you're born into. That's a completely irrelevant and separate point altogether.
 
My response to OP's consent argument is not analogous or related to your point about not choosing which country you're born into. That's a completely irrelevant and separate point altogether.
you said that people can't agree to be born because they don't exist. My point was that anti-nationalists like to make the similar assumption that there is such a thing as a pre-sphere from which one is brought into the world.
 
you said that people can't agree to be born because they don't exist. My point was that anti-nationalists like to make the similar assumption that there is such a thing as a pre-sphere from which one is brought into the world.
OK, whatever. That's cool, I guess. That's not what I'm getting at, and this pre-sphere idea is just some faith-based mumbo jumbo.
 
OK, whatever. That's cool, I guess. That's not what I'm getting at, and this pre-sphere idea is just some faith-based mumbo jumbo.
Well, I agree with the latter fully if it wasn't clear from my previous comments.
 
I only support it for urban areas and for non-whites
 
Antinatalism = blackpill 2.0
 
Antinatalism is made by the elites for whites and other productive races like chinks in order for them to be replaced by low IQ niggers and currycels with 4+kids per woman.

I only support it for Africans and other similar subhuman low IQ slum living beasts.

You don't have what do eat? Just fuck more! The west will send you food and water!
 
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This is the bullshit people start thinking about when they stop believing in god and start thinking as if there ideas are better than GOD.
Procreation through holy marriage is BASED.
 
Most based idea ever, only 1% of all parents have kids with the intention of them having a great life, most of the time they just want themselves to be happy and could give less of a fuck if the kid is
 

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