Blackpill Thinking of Quitting the Movement?

[Gokubro]

I think this was written by chat gpt

 

[Eremetic]

Sticky worthy @Fat Link

 

[Hikikomori_cel]

Didn't read, Inceldom is not a movement, it's not a cult, it's a state of being.

 

[lifeisfucked215]

How tf can you " leave the blackpill"? The blackpill is reality

 

[COLD SPIRIT]

Many people leave the Blackpill Movement because of endemic drama, including mostly online bullying by obnoxious people. I favor an easy entry, easy exit policy. But you should have good reasons for leaving. Here are some reasons not to go.

Everyone in this movement inevitably finds himself wondering, “If the cause of The Blackpill is so good, why are the Incels so bad?” But we have to remind ourselves: “Despite the fact that the people are so bad, the Blackpill cause still remains good.” The point is to see that, ultimately, the core of the movement is an idea, not a set of people. The people are there just to serve the idea, and that includes us.

Whenever your enthusiasm for the cause wavers, remind yourself that you are doing this because, first and foremost, you think this is right. The Blackpill is about putting the common good of our people over individual interests whenever they conflict. That includes our own interests. A true idealist also acts out of duty rather than personal pleasure, whenever the two conflict. Yes, this cause is often joyful, and a successful movement has to offer personal rewards and pleasure. But in the last instance, we do what we do because it is right, not because it is fun. Which is how we stick to it when it isn’t fun.

None of us may live to see free Loving Homelands. So our activism is, at its core, sacrificing ourselves for the common good, for the future of our people. There’s a saying that a society becomes great when people plant trees so their descendants can enjoy shade. The Blackpill is about creating a world in which our brothers have a future, even if we do not share in that future.

But we can share its greatness today. And that greatness shines most brightly when we endure the hard times, sustained by idealism alone. Of course the movement has to offer more than idealism and sacrifice. But they are the bedrock upon which it is built, and it will fail without them. Our goal dies a little every time we choose self-indulgence over duty, the present over the future, private interests over the common good.

No, the idea cannot triumph without attracting good people. And every bad person who clings to this cause repulses a hundred better ones. So we have to understand why there are so many bad people and figure out ways of attracting better ones. But the Blackpill idea is absolute. The people are fungible, and if good people are quitting while stupid, crazy, and evil ones are running amok, the movement is going to fail. When decent people listen to their feelings of disgust and start thinking of quitting, they are letting the bastards win.

You can’t do that. You’ve got to listen to your idealism instead, and you also need to turn up your disgust a notch. If someone is behaving in a manner so disgusting that you are thinking of abandoning all that is good and holy, perhaps you should feel a bit disgusted with yourself as well.

Beyond that, if someone is disgusting enough to drive you from the battle, aren’t they also disgusting enough for you to want to crush them? Because that’s the spirit we need.

Of course, once you go beyond the beatific vision of crushing your enemies and ask yourself exactly how it can be accomplished, it dawns on you that we can’t really get rid of these people. We can’t kill them. We can’t throw them in prison. We can’t get them off the Internet. We can’t track down every donor and supporter. We can’t shame and silence every shill. We can’t revoke some sort of membership in the movement. We can’t “purge” them.

But they can’t do that to us, either.

The Blackpill is a decentralized, pluralistic, largely virtual movement. There are plenty of cliques and groupuscules and scenes. But there is no absolute inside and outside. There is no king, pope, or dictator. No arbiter of who is in and who is out. We can’t even rid this movement of doxers, embezzlers, con artists, miscegenators, drunkards, druggies, chronic failures, and controlled opposition. But somehow, some of us have made a science of driving away decent people. That has to stop. The closest thing we can do to purging all the bad elements is simply to leave them alone. Let them have their little cliques and cults. Let them serve as an abscess into which all the poisons drain.

Recognize that all the power is in your hands.

Nobody can make you leave this movement movement. Only you can do that. So don't .

If only you can make you leave the movement, your enemies depend entirely upon you to hand them a victory. Which makes bullying extremely stupid. Nobody can remain a leader for long if he fails repeatedly. That goes for online lynch mobs as well as political movements. The best way to avoid failure is to choose goals that you can actually accomplish. The more the outcome depends on your actions and the less it can be controlled by your opponents, the greater the chance of success.

In the case of bullying, however, success depends entirely on the victims. If the targets of bullying just hold firm, they win, and their enemies look incredibly weak and foolish. This sort of strategic stupidity is why the movement keeps lurching from one self-induced defeat to another.

Manage your expectations.

There will never be a movement without destructive infighting, and it is unreasonable to expect otherwise. Even if we could convert or drive out the worst elements in the movement, the establishment that opposes us would simply create replacements. In short, these people — whether they know it or not, whether they intend to or not — are doing the enemy’s work. Their goal is to create a smaller, weaker, poorer, more marginal, but “purer” movement — a movement with a madhouse atmosphere that repulses the normal and the superior — a movement that has zero chance of resonating with the masses, changing the course of history, and saving our life from extinction.

Well, that is the goal of our enemies as well. So if the troublemakers did not exist, the enemy would find it necessary to create them. Note that I am not accusing anyone of being an enemy agent. I am actually accusing them of being something far more contemptible: people who do the enemy’s work for them, for free. Their motives ultimately don’t matter. Controlled opposition or not, the results are exactly the same.

But if these people will always be with us, then they cannot constitute an argument for quitting, for then the movement will simply fail. Indeed, they only constitute an argument for working harder.

Remember who your real enemies are.

​

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• Trials Of Socrates

Imagine that it were possible to completely extirpate movement infamy. If you try it, you will discover that it will quickly consume all your time and energy and prevent you from being able to do any positive work.


But our positive work is what will change the world, and we cannot let ourselves be deflected from it.

Ultimately, the best way to defeat one’s opponents is simply to ignore them and focus on making constructive contributions to the movement. Always remember that we are in the business of slaying dragons, not swatting flies.


Count your blessings.

I love this cause, and even with all the bad aspects, I would not trade my life for anything. As I put it in one of my journals:

​

There have been times when I wished that I had never gotten involved with The Blackpill. I tend to focus on the negative and forget about the positive. Sometimes I brood over the fact that the craziest, crookedest, most loathsome people I have ever encountered have been Incels — forgetting that the finest people I know are Blackpilled as well.​

​

My complaining finally angered a good friend. He told me that I lead an enviable life, that I can speak the truth as I see it for the rest of my days. Then it reminded me of the basic premise of Batman: Bruce is a traumatized superhero and is part of a secret league doing battle with the forces of evil. Night after night, he is literally saving the world. And yet . . . all he wants to be is an ordinary civilian.​

​

Well, when you put it that way, I choose to fight evil and save the world.​

​

​

Don't allow yourself to burn out.

Even though idealism and self-sacrifice must, in the last instance, be what sustains this movement through the trials, if life were nothing but trials we would burn out and become useless to the cause. So do everything you can to build personal rewards into your activism. Above all, do not let yourself become isolated. Cherish the good people and do everything you can to avoid the bad ones.​

​

Up your emotional intensity.​

​

I am haunted by W. B. Yeats’ lines in “The Second Coming”:​

​

The best lack all conviction, while the worst​

Are full of passionate intensity.​

​

Other things being equal, this differential alone will be enough to bring any movement to ruin.​

​

Don’t lose track of what’s really important.​

​

The substance of our movement is its goal: creating free homelands for all Incels, which is how I define The Blackpill Movement. You are “in” our movement if you fight for that goal. Everything else that we fight about is a side issue.​

We need to link..lmaaoo...things are seething in the pot towards this....

 

[CantEscapeYourFate]

 

[Eremetic]

Bump

 

[Mentally lost cel]

Many people leave the Blackpill Movement because of endemic drama, including mostly online bullying by obnoxious people. I favor an easy entry, easy exit policy. But you should have good reasons for leaving. Here are some reasons not to go.

Everyone in this movement inevitably finds himself wondering, “If the cause of The Blackpill is so good, why are the Incels so bad?” But we have to remind ourselves: “Despite the fact that the people are so bad, the Blackpill cause still remains good.” The point is to see that, ultimately, the core of the movement is an idea, not a set of people. The people are there just to serve the idea, and that includes us.

Whenever your enthusiasm for the cause wavers, remind yourself that you are doing this because, first and foremost, you think this is right. The Blackpill is about putting the common good of our people over individual interests whenever they conflict. That includes our own interests. A true idealist also acts out of duty rather than personal pleasure, whenever the two conflict. Yes, this cause is often joyful, and a successful movement has to offer personal rewards and pleasure. But in the last instance, we do what we do because it is right, not because it is fun. Which is how we stick to it when it isn’t fun.

None of us may live to see free Loving Homelands. So our activism is, at its core, sacrificing ourselves for the common good, for the future of our people. There’s a saying that a society becomes great when people plant trees so their descendants can enjoy shade. The Blackpill is about creating a world in which our brothers have a future, even if we do not share in that future.

But we can share its greatness today. And that greatness shines most brightly when we endure the hard times, sustained by idealism alone. Of course the movement has to offer more than idealism and sacrifice. But they are the bedrock upon which it is built, and it will fail without them. Our goal dies a little every time we choose self-indulgence over duty, the present over the future, private interests over the common good.

No, the idea cannot triumph without attracting good people. And every bad person who clings to this cause repulses a hundred better ones. So we have to understand why there are so many bad people and figure out ways of attracting better ones. But the Blackpill idea is absolute. The people are fungible, and if good people are quitting while stupid, crazy, and evil ones are running amok, the movement is going to fail. When decent people listen to their feelings of disgust and start thinking of quitting, they are letting the bastards win.

You can’t do that. You’ve got to listen to your idealism instead, and you also need to turn up your disgust a notch. If someone is behaving in a manner so disgusting that you are thinking of abandoning all that is good and holy, perhaps you should feel a bit disgusted with yourself as well.

Beyond that, if someone is disgusting enough to drive you from the battle, aren’t they also disgusting enough for you to want to crush them? Because that’s the spirit we need.

Of course, once you go beyond the beatific vision of crushing your enemies and ask yourself exactly how it can be accomplished, it dawns on you that we can’t really get rid of these people. We can’t kill them. We can’t throw them in prison. We can’t get them off the Internet. We can’t track down every donor and supporter. We can’t shame and silence every shill. We can’t revoke some sort of membership in the movement. We can’t “purge” them.

But they can’t do that to us, either.

The Blackpill is a decentralized, pluralistic, largely virtual movement. There are plenty of cliques and groupuscules and scenes. But there is no absolute inside and outside. There is no king, pope, or dictator. No arbiter of who is in and who is out. We can’t even rid this movement of doxers, embezzlers, con artists, miscegenators, drunkards, druggies, chronic failures, and controlled opposition. But somehow, some of us have made a science of driving away decent people. That has to stop. The closest thing we can do to purging all the bad elements is simply to leave them alone. Let them have their little cliques and cults. Let them serve as an abscess into which all the poisons drain.

Recognize that all the power is in your hands.

Nobody can make you leave this movement movement. Only you can do that. So don't .

If only you can make you leave the movement, your enemies depend entirely upon you to hand them a victory. Which makes bullying extremely stupid. Nobody can remain a leader for long if he fails repeatedly. That goes for online lynch mobs as well as political movements. The best way to avoid failure is to choose goals that you can actually accomplish. The more the outcome depends on your actions and the less it can be controlled by your opponents, the greater the chance of success.

In the case of bullying, however, success depends entirely on the victims. If the targets of bullying just hold firm, they win, and their enemies look incredibly weak and foolish. This sort of strategic stupidity is why the movement keeps lurching from one self-induced defeat to another.

Manage your expectations.

There will never be a movement without destructive infighting, and it is unreasonable to expect otherwise. Even if we could convert or drive out the worst elements in the movement, the establishment that opposes us would simply create replacements. In short, these people — whether they know it or not, whether they intend to or not — are doing the enemy’s work. Their goal is to create a smaller, weaker, poorer, more marginal, but “purer” movement — a movement with a madhouse atmosphere that repulses the normal and the superior — a movement that has zero chance of resonating with the masses, changing the course of history, and saving our life from extinction.

Well, that is the goal of our enemies as well. So if the troublemakers did not exist, the enemy would find it necessary to create them. Note that I am not accusing anyone of being an enemy agent. I am actually accusing them of being something far more contemptible: people who do the enemy’s work for them, for free. Their motives ultimately don’t matter. Controlled opposition or not, the results are exactly the same.

But if these people will always be with us, then they cannot constitute an argument for quitting, for then the movement will simply fail. Indeed, they only constitute an argument for working harder.

Remember who your real enemies are.

​

View attachment 941237

• Trials Of Socrates

Imagine that it were possible to completely extirpate movement infamy. If you try it, you will discover that it will quickly consume all your time and energy and prevent you from being able to do any positive work.


But our positive work is what will change the world, and we cannot let ourselves be deflected from it.

Ultimately, the best way to defeat one’s opponents is simply to ignore them and focus on making constructive contributions to the movement. Always remember that we are in the business of slaying dragons, not swatting flies.


Count your blessings.

I love this cause, and even with all the bad aspects, I would not trade my life for anything. As I put it in one of my journals:

​

There have been times when I wished that I had never gotten involved with The Blackpill. I tend to focus on the negative and forget about the positive. Sometimes I brood over the fact that the craziest, crookedest, most loathsome people I have ever encountered have been Incels — forgetting that the finest people I know are Blackpilled as well.​

​

My complaining finally angered a good friend. He told me that I lead an enviable life, that I can speak the truth as I see it for the rest of my days. Then it reminded me of the basic premise of Batman: Bruce is a traumatized superhero and is part of a secret league doing battle with the forces of evil. Night after night, he is literally saving the world. And yet . . . all he wants to be is an ordinary civilian.​

​

Well, when you put it that way, I choose to fight evil and save the world.​

​

​

Don't allow yourself to burn out.

Even though idealism and self-sacrifice must, in the last instance, be what sustains this movement through the trials, if life were nothing but trials we would burn out and become useless to the cause. So do everything you can to build personal rewards into your activism. Above all, do not let yourself become isolated. Cherish the good people and do everything you can to avoid the bad ones.​

​

Up your emotional intensity.​

​

I am haunted by W. B. Yeats’ lines in “The Second Coming”:​

​

The best lack all conviction, while the worst​

Are full of passionate intensity.​

​

Other things being equal, this differential alone will be enough to bring any movement to ruin.​

​

Don’t lose track of what’s really important.​

​

The substance of our movement is its goal: creating free homelands for all Incels, which is how I define The Blackpill Movement. You are “in” our movement if you fight for that goal. Everything else that we fight about is a side issue.​

Never !

 

[Nig nog pilled]

Many people leave the Blackpill Movement because of endemic drama, including mostly online bullying by obnoxious people. I favor an easy entry, easy exit policy. But you should have good reasons for leaving. Here are some reasons not to go.

Everyone in this movement inevitably finds himself wondering, “If the cause of The Blackpill is so good, why are the Incels so bad?” But we have to remind ourselves: “Despite the fact that the people are so bad, the Blackpill cause still remains good.” The point is to see that, ultimately, the core of the movement is an idea, not a set of people. The people are there just to serve the idea, and that includes us.

Whenever your enthusiasm for the cause wavers, remind yourself that you are doing this because, first and foremost, you think this is right. The Blackpill is about putting the common good of our people over individual interests whenever they conflict. That includes our own interests. A true idealist also acts out of duty rather than personal pleasure, whenever the two conflict. Yes, this cause is often joyful, and a successful movement has to offer personal rewards and pleasure. But in the last instance, we do what we do because it is right, not because it is fun. Which is how we stick to it when it isn’t fun.

None of us may live to see free Loving Homelands. So our activism is, at its core, sacrificing ourselves for the common good, for the future of our people. There’s a saying that a society becomes great when people plant trees so their descendants can enjoy shade. The Blackpill is about creating a world in which our brothers have a future, even if we do not share in that future.

But we can share its greatness today. And that greatness shines most brightly when we endure the hard times, sustained by idealism alone. Of course the movement has to offer more than idealism and sacrifice. But they are the bedrock upon which it is built, and it will fail without them. Our goal dies a little every time we choose self-indulgence over duty, the present over the future, private interests over the common good.

No, the idea cannot triumph without attracting good people. And every bad person who clings to this cause repulses a hundred better ones. So we have to understand why there are so many bad people and figure out ways of attracting better ones. But the Blackpill idea is absolute. The people are fungible, and if good people are quitting while stupid, crazy, and evil ones are running amok, the movement is going to fail. When decent people listen to their feelings of disgust and start thinking of quitting, they are letting the bastards win.

You can’t do that. You’ve got to listen to your idealism instead, and you also need to turn up your disgust a notch. If someone is behaving in a manner so disgusting that you are thinking of abandoning all that is good and holy, perhaps you should feel a bit disgusted with yourself as well.

Beyond that, if someone is disgusting enough to drive you from the battle, aren’t they also disgusting enough for you to want to crush them? Because that’s the spirit we need.

Of course, once you go beyond the beatific vision of crushing your enemies and ask yourself exactly how it can be accomplished, it dawns on you that we can’t really get rid of these people. We can’t kill them. We can’t throw them in prison. We can’t get them off the Internet. We can’t track down every donor and supporter. We can’t shame and silence every shill. We can’t revoke some sort of membership in the movement. We can’t “purge” them.

But they can’t do that to us, either.

The Blackpill is a decentralized, pluralistic, largely virtual movement. There are plenty of cliques and groupuscules and scenes. But there is no absolute inside and outside. There is no king, pope, or dictator. No arbiter of who is in and who is out. We can’t even rid this movement of doxers, embezzlers, con artists, miscegenators, drunkards, druggies, chronic failures, and controlled opposition. But somehow, some of us have made a science of driving away decent people. That has to stop. The closest thing we can do to purging all the bad elements is simply to leave them alone. Let them have their little cliques and cults. Let them serve as an abscess into which all the poisons drain.

Recognize that all the power is in your hands.

Nobody can make you leave this movement movement. Only you can do that. So don't .

If only you can make you leave the movement, your enemies depend entirely upon you to hand them a victory. Which makes bullying extremely stupid. Nobody can remain a leader for long if he fails repeatedly. That goes for online lynch mobs as well as political movements. The best way to avoid failure is to choose goals that you can actually accomplish. The more the outcome depends on your actions and the less it can be controlled by your opponents, the greater the chance of success.

In the case of bullying, however, success depends entirely on the victims. If the targets of bullying just hold firm, they win, and their enemies look incredibly weak and foolish. This sort of strategic stupidity is why the movement keeps lurching from one self-induced defeat to another.

Manage your expectations.

There will never be a movement without destructive infighting, and it is unreasonable to expect otherwise. Even if we could convert or drive out the worst elements in the movement, the establishment that opposes us would simply create replacements. In short, these people — whether they know it or not, whether they intend to or not — are doing the enemy’s work. Their goal is to create a smaller, weaker, poorer, more marginal, but “purer” movement — a movement with a madhouse atmosphere that repulses the normal and the superior — a movement that has zero chance of resonating with the masses, changing the course of history, and saving our life from extinction.

Well, that is the goal of our enemies as well. So if the troublemakers did not exist, the enemy would find it necessary to create them. Note that I am not accusing anyone of being an enemy agent. I am actually accusing them of being something far more contemptible: people who do the enemy’s work for them, for free. Their motives ultimately don’t matter. Controlled opposition or not, the results are exactly the same.

But if these people will always be with us, then they cannot constitute an argument for quitting, for then the movement will simply fail. Indeed, they only constitute an argument for working harder.

Remember who your real enemies are.

​

View attachment 941237

• Trials Of Socrates

Imagine that it were possible to completely extirpate movement infamy. If you try it, you will discover that it will quickly consume all your time and energy and prevent you from being able to do any positive work.


But our positive work is what will change the world, and we cannot let ourselves be deflected from it.

Ultimately, the best way to defeat one’s opponents is simply to ignore them and focus on making constructive contributions to the movement. Always remember that we are in the business of slaying dragons, not swatting flies.


Count your blessings.

I love this cause, and even with all the bad aspects, I would not trade my life for anything. As I put it in one of my journals:

​

There have been times when I wished that I had never gotten involved with The Blackpill. I tend to focus on the negative and forget about the positive. Sometimes I brood over the fact that the craziest, crookedest, most loathsome people I have ever encountered have been Incels — forgetting that the finest people I know are Blackpilled as well.​

​

My complaining finally angered a good friend. He told me that I lead an enviable life, that I can speak the truth as I see it for the rest of my days. Then it reminded me of the basic premise of Batman: Bruce is a traumatized superhero and is part of a secret league doing battle with the forces of evil. Night after night, he is literally saving the world. And yet . . . all he wants to be is an ordinary civilian.​

​

Well, when you put it that way, I choose to fight evil and save the world.​

​

​

Don't allow yourself to burn out.

Even though idealism and self-sacrifice must, in the last instance, be what sustains this movement through the trials, if life were nothing but trials we would burn out and become useless to the cause. So do everything you can to build personal rewards into your activism. Above all, do not let yourself become isolated. Cherish the good people and do everything you can to avoid the bad ones.​

​

Up your emotional intensity.​

​

I am haunted by W. B. Yeats’ lines in “The Second Coming”:​

​

The best lack all conviction, while the worst​

Are full of passionate intensity.​

​

Other things being equal, this differential alone will be enough to bring any movement to ruin.​

​

Don’t lose track of what’s really important.​

​

The substance of our movement is its goal: creating free homelands for all Incels, which is how I define The Blackpill Movement. You are “in” our movement if you fight for that goal. Everything else that we fight about is a side issue.​

you cant escape reality son

 

[RAO]

It’s not a movement.