Theory They Might be something after death

[Blackcel rigth wing]

They honestly may be something after death.
my theory is that when you go back to the Void 'you' are eventually going to exist again in the same from or a new form in this world or another.

Think about it for a second you randomly popped up from nowhere your consciousness literally was nothing before your birth then literally bam you’re here. Who’s to say that won’t happen again. you were nothing before birth your consciousness was not a thing.

since nothingness is the absent of things that includes laws,rules,time,logic Anything can happen, you’ll probably spontaneously exist again in some fashion.

Also I’ll like to note that your atoms aren’t really YOU. Because if you think of it every single living thing on this planet has the same atoms theirs nothing special about your atoms/matters we all made of the same things. I can go around and say I’m you because we got the same atoms but we know that’s wrong.

What makes you YOU is your consciousness. This body is just a medium for your consciousness.

The Void is God. it transcends Something.The Void is beyond logic and reason. Humans or anything really will never be able to fully gasp the Void

 

[Deleted member 31122]

Your identity is just your memory and that's definitely stored in the brain, so even if self awareness is something external (soul) you will be a completely new person anyway

 

[Darkenzo]

It'll just be some kind of absorption and recirculation of consciousness, don't get too excited.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5u8c3E5CK8&t=9s


If near death experiences are anything to go by it seems to reasonably pleasant.

Your identity is just your memory and that's definitely stored in the brain, so even if self awareness is something external (soul) you will be a completely new person anyway

The brain may be more some kind of filtration mechanism than a storage device. People have NDEs seem to be able to remember literally everything that ever happened to them all at once. They get some kind of life review often in the context of whatever religion they believed in, Christians will see Jesus for instance. They're tripping out and hallucinating to be sure as they aren't actually dead but they are entering an altered state of consciousness which I think touches upon it a tiny little bit. What the entirety of it would be like is likely well outside of what we can imagine in our defined physical state.

 

[EdgyPatrician]

That's the thing, that scares me most tbh. Your reasoning is not without substance and I definitely think, that it can be possible. However, how does it work actually? Would your next life be random? Do you choose how and where you will be born? Do you know what fate awaits you? Is our world the only world to be born into?

I'm afraid to be born again, because, if it is random, chances are very high it'll be under worse or way worse circumstances. I'm not keen on being born in ancient times or current day China, Africa, India, etc. or being born right into a war or things like that. My life has been very pleasant despite being an incel, when you compare it to how life was in the past or how you would live in third world countries. It could be way better, but it could be way way worse, too. In all times there have been people, who had to suffer horrendous fates and I don't want to take any chances. Eternal nothingness is better than existence, but also not really conceivable.

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

@EdgyPatrician it scares the hell out of me too, you’re also right about life being worse because existence from earth point of view is mostly terrible, but take into account earth is one planet out of many then theirs different dimensions etc. So chances of being earth born may also be fairly slim. But those other dimensions/planets or possibly universes could probably be bad it’s really the ultimate dice roll.

 

[Idotms]

cope

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Your identity is just your memory and that's definitely stored in the brain, so even if self awareness is something external (soul) you will be a completely new person anyway

True

@EdgyPatrician it scares the hell out of me too, you’re also right about life being worse because existence from earth point of view is mostly terrible, but take into account earth is one planet out of many then theirs different dimensions etc. So chances of being earth born may also be fairly slim. But those other dimensions/planets or possibly universes could probably be bad it’s really the ultimate dice roll.

It would make sense that life is terrible no matter what world or universe it develops in. Think about it, there wouldn't be a need for a consciousness if it wasn't for the twisted game we call natural selection. Living organisms evolved an awareness of their surroundings and themselves in order to prey upon and compete against other living things in the most cruel ways.
I'm fully convinced that this universe is hell and that consciousness is the most diabolical thing in existence, so if your theory is right I think we're doomed. And btw the chances of being born would be irrelevant in your scenario cuz you don't remember anything while you're "not born" so it's as if you were born instantly right after you die, but then again, just as @RopeIsHope said, if your memories are erased when you die then it doesn't matter whether you reincarnate it not.

Check out this thread op

The most fucked up epiphany I've ever had | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

Maybe this doesn't belong in the "Blackpill" tag, it reloves more around philosophy and mental masturbation rather than observable facts, but given the deeply disturbing implications of this idea and impossibility of escaping from it if it were to be true, I couldn't think of another more...

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[LittleDarkAge]

Well, someone's been listening to Alan Watts on youtube

 

[Deleted member 27495]

this theory is flawed pseudoscience because there would be nothing stopping you from being reborn as n(species) in the entire universe which would mean all living things share the same identity which is metaphysically impossible. And there is no medium between mortality, or any awareness transferal mechanism that exists. When you die the only thing that stops existing is your conscious awareness , your brain rots into the ground and all of the organic molecules that its made off dissipate into the ground because of the law of conservation, matter cannot be added nor completely destroyed

Sperm cells are all independent of each other, all species and individuals are independent of each other, there is no collective self-awareness that is just shared between everyone.

 

[EdgyPatrician]

True

It would make sense that life is terrible no matter what world or universe it develops in. Think about it, there wouldn't be a need for a consciousness if it wasn't for the twisted game we call natural selection. Living organisms evolved an awareness of their surroundings and themselves in order to prey upon and compete against other living things in the most cruel ways.
I'm fully convinced that this universe is hell and that consciousness is the most diabolical thing in existence, so if your theory is right I think we're doomed. And btw the chances of being born would be irrelevant in your scenario cuz you don't remember anything while you're "not born" so it's as if you were born instantly right after you die, but then again, just as @RopeIsHope said, if your memories are erased when you die then it doesn't matter whether you reincarnate it not.

Check out this thread op

The most fucked up epiphany I've ever had | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

Maybe this doesn't belong in the "Blackpill" tag, it reloves more around philosophy and mental masturbation rather than observable facts, but given the deeply disturbing implications of this idea and impossibility of escaping from it if it were to be true, I couldn't think of another more...

incels.is

This presupposes, that life or existence is always like in our world. There is no reason, that it couldn't be entirely different and without all the problems we face. I agree, that consciousness in our universe is a terrible thing and shouldn't exist. It's the root of all evil.
I think you have to separate consciousness from the self. The self dies, when you die, but the consciousness may emerge in a different body again. In that sense, you are actually the consciousness and the self is just the mask or interface to the world, if that makes sense.
But this is all just pure speculation of course.

this theory is flawed pseudoscience because there would be nothing stopping you from being reborn as n(species) in the entire universe which would mean all living things share the same identity which is metaphysically impossible. And there is no medium between mortality, or any awareness transferal mechanism that exists. When you die the only thing that stops existing is your conscious awareness , your brain rots into the ground and all of the organic molecules that its made off dissipate into the ground because of the law of conservation, matter cannot be added nor completely destroyed

Sperm cells are all independent of each other, all species and individuals are independent of each other, there is no collective self-awareness that is just shared between everyone.

So how did I end up in my body? Was my awareness already in the sperm and the egg? Where was it before that? It literally emerged from nowhere. We have no idea how it works and where it comes from. It's all just speculation. I'd be more than happy, if we would find a definite scientific answer, because it's a very interesting subject. Maybe we can understand consciousness better through pushing AI. Maybe some day a computer can emulate a brain. Then we would see, what happens.

 

[Darkenzo]

AI. Maybe some day a computer can emulate a brain. Then we would see, what happens.

Just a theory but I think consciousness is somehow limited to organic/living material only never anything inorganic which can just simulate it. Life is something like the consciousness field of the universe itself becoming physically manifest in an environment that allows for it over time. Hence why you see this.

 

[Michinomiya Hirohit]

you forgot to say "sry for my english"

 

[Deleted member 30682]

This presupposes, that life or existence is always like in our world. There is no reason, that it couldn't be entirely different and without all the problems we face

I can't imagine a scenario where conscious life is not the result of a freakshow of suffering and murder like it is in our world. If survival and selective reproduction weren't a problem for living things there would be no need at all for them to be conscious. But maybe there are some "heavenly dimensions" out there, who knows

 

[EdgyPatrician]

I can't imagine a scenario where conscious life is not the result of a freakshow of suffering and murder like it is in our world. If survival and selective reproduction weren't a problem for living things there would be no need at all for them to be conscious. But maybe there are some "heavenly dimensions" out there, who knows

That reminds me of a video I saw, this one:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd6CQCbk2ro

 

[Incline]

They honestly may be something after death.
my theory is that when you go back to the Void 'you' are eventually going to exist again in the same from or a new form in this world or another.

Think about it for a second you randomly popped up from nowhere your consciousness literally was nothing before your birth then literally bam you’re here. Who’s to say that won’t happen again. you were nothing before birth your consciousness was not a thing.

since nothingness is the absent of things that includes laws,rules,time,logic Anything can happen, you’ll probably spontaneously exist again in some fashion.

Also I’ll like to note that your atoms aren’t really YOU. Because if you think of it every single living thing on this planet has the same atoms theirs nothing special about your atoms/matters we all made of the same things. I can go around and say I’m you because we got the same atoms but we know that’s wrong.

What makes you YOU is your consciousness. This body is just a medium for your consciousness.

The Void is God. it transcends Something.The Void is beyond logic and reason. Humans or anything really will never be able to fully gasp the Void

This thread very strongly reminds me of my own posts on this topic. I'll find them and PM them to you want to see what you think about them because you are the first person here who reached a similar conclusion to me.

 

[FlamingCel]

I'll find out soon enough.

 

[Joelossus]

While i can't actually disprove anything you said in your post. I just hope that you're wrong. This existence was already more than enough. I'm not eager to go through all the tedious burdens that life tends to throw at you, for another whole lifetime.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

That reminds me of a video I saw, this one:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd6CQCbk2ro

(Number of cucks in the USA) IQ interview. I can't say I was able to fully grasp everything that was said in that video (especially when the interviewee was talking about quantum physics and all that shit) but I got a general understanding of his ideas and they are very similar to mine.

They talked a little about what they called "resource limitation" (which is what I was talking about in the previous post) but they rapidly changed the subject, and also when the professor referred to the "endless possible manifestations of consciousness" he used the analogy of "a kid in a candy shop where there's an infinite amount of candy of infinite types and varieties and shit like that" and the two of them emphasized the idea of "exploring all those possibilities" implying it is a good and amazing thing and we should be very excited about it, which reflects their bluepilled/unfounded optimistic mindset. It's NOT a "candy shop" it's a torture chamber with an infinite amount of rooms, and you're NOT "exploring", you are being forced to go through the whole ordeal over and over and over again for eternity. It's funny seeing very smart people like them being unable to realize we're living in hell and there's nothing to be optimistically fascinated about

But it was nonetheless a very good interview, all the ideas covered in it are very interesting. The video was a perfect contribution to this thread.

 

[Todd’s Pay Pig]

View: https://youtu.be/VsyWGPoMiMI


The way I look at it Howard Storm and the rest of the NDE crowd could be right and god and an afterlife exists after all.

Or...

We could all simply be inside a cruel simulation and any afterlife we experience after our perceived death is simply yet another cruel part of this cruel experiment by some higher alien intelligence.

View: https://youtu.be/p13LtGKdoBo

 

[EdgyPatrician]

They talked a little about what they called "resource limitation" (which is what I was talking about in the previous post) but they rapidly changed the subject, and also when the professor referred to the "endless possible manifestations of consciousness" he used the analogy of "a kid in a candy shop where there's an infinite amount of candy of infinite types and varieties and shit like that" and the two of them emphasized the idea of "exploring all those possibilities" implying it is a good and amazing thing and we should be very excited about it, which reflects their bluepilled/unfounded optimistic mindset. It's NOT a "candy shop" it's a torture chamber with an infinite amount of rooms, and you're NOT "exploring", you are being forced to go through the whole ordeal over and over and over again for eternity. It's funny seeing very smart people like them being unable to realize we're living in hell and there's nothing to be optimistically fascinated about

Yeah, I noticed that, too. It's like they haven't seen anything bad in their life and think life is a wonderland devoid of suffering and evil. It's really astonishing how the perception of reality can differ because of your own experiences in it. I want to see them saying this, when they're born in whatever shithole earth can offer.
I noticed that in Tinder sluts as well. They all have this incredible naive "life is a gift" view. They all grew up sheltered, wealthy and received lots of attention. They just can't understand, that life can be incredibly cruel. It's so far removed from their own life. That's why they're doing stupid things as traveling to Morocco as only two girls, surprisingly get culturally enriched, so we can then marvel at another low quality beheading video. Many such cases.

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Yeah, I noticed that, too. It's like they haven't seen anything bad in their life and think life is a wonderland devoid of suffering and evil. It's really astonishing how the perception of reality can differ because of your own experiences in it. I want to see them saying this, when they're born in whatever shithole earth can offer.
I noticed that in Tinder sluts as well. They all have this incredible naive "life is a gift" view. They all grew up sheltered, wealthy and received lots of attention. They just can't understand, that life can be incredibly cruel. It's so far removed from their own life. That's why they're doing stupid things as traveling to Morocco as only two girls, surprisingly get culturally enriched, so we can then marvel at another low quality beheading video. Many such cases.

It's to be expected from females cuz they're retarded but it's baffling when it comes from high IQ men like the two in the video. But I guess that's just human nature, our brains evolved to be bluepilled.

This is how someone who see things as they are should feel about life:

View: https://youtu.be/3Jme_a_54QE

 

[Lone-Star]

you forgot to say "sry for my english"

 

[EdgyPatrician]

But I guess that's just human nature, our brains evolved to be bluepilled.

There is much evidence, that it does. I saw this video talking about it:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ8yxGYJ4rw

The way I look at it Howard Storm and the rest of the NDE crowd could be right and god and an afterlife exists after all.

What, if it's the demiurge, who deceives us into thinking heaven awaits us, but we're born again in this actual hell or something like that?

 

[Deleted member 30682]

There is much evidence, that it does. I saw this video talking about it:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ8yxGYJ4rw



What, if it's the demiurge, who deceives us into thinking heaven awaits us, but we're born again in this actual hell or something like that?

The Monty Python song at the end of the vid was the cherry on top of the cake. How can anyone deny the fact that it's all a fokin joke?

 

[Deleted member 29709]

you forgot to say "sry for my english"

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

This thread very strongly reminds me of my own posts on this topic. I'll find them and PM them to you want to see what you think about them because you are the first person here who reached a similar conclusion to me.

Please do I’ll like to read them.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

when u die and spawn back in 2050 to get your ass raped by @pp183's judeoasian global empire

 

[Deleted member 19079]

when u die and spawn back in 2050 to get your ass raped by @pp183's judeoasian global empire

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

when u die and spawn back in 2050 to get your ass raped by @pp183's judeoasian global empire

 

[Deleted member 28708]

They honestly may be something after death.
my theory is that when you go back to the Void 'you' are eventually going to exist again in the same from or a new form in this world or another.

Think about it for a second you randomly popped up from nowhere your consciousness literally was nothing before your birth then literally bam you’re here. Who’s to say that won’t happen again. you were nothing before birth your consciousness was not a thing.

since nothingness is the absent of things that includes laws,rules,time,logic Anything can happen, you’ll probably spontaneously exist again in some fashion.

Also I’ll like to note that your atoms aren’t really YOU. Because if you think of it every single living thing on this planet has the same atoms theirs nothing special about your atoms/matters we all made of the same things. I can go around and say I’m you because we got the same atoms but we know that’s wrong.

What makes you YOU is your consciousness. This body is just a medium for your consciousness.

The Void is God. it transcends Something.The Void is beyond logic and reason. Humans or anything really will never be able to fully gasp the Void

You are nothing but memories stored in brain.
If we able to delete your memories, you'll became an another person.
And if we able to upload your memories to another person, you'll re exist again.

Even if you will reincarnate or whatever, you'll be an another person.

 

[Over_this_Life]

I’ll take the agnostic approach and say we can know nothing for certain about higher powers or the afterlife